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Re-routing when going off the route

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  • Chris Gossopundefined Chris Gossop

    I have downloaded routes to Garmin Zumo XT and on occasion when I have missed a turn the display just shows a dashed line to where I should be. It doesn't give me a re-direct. Is this something to do with the way I have either MRA set up or is it something on Zumo XT that needs changing? On my old 660 I would get a re-direct come on to the display which was far more useful.

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    @Chris-Gossop If you re routing om your XT you have to change that in settings.
    My advice to you, dont change it because in the XT there's a bug with imported routes. If you make re routing, recalculating, possible it will mess up your trip. Tried it a lot and gave up. Garmin states it has nothing to do with the system but it does. They wont admidd it.

    Honda Goldwing GL1500,
    Honda Silverwing GL 650
    DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
    Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
    Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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    • Chris Gossopundefined Chris Gossop

      @Con-Hennekens I'll haev another look at the zumo but cannot see how to change but I'll look harder!

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      @Chris-Gossop, if you export a route to your device, do you see it in trips afterwards? If so, use that instead of the track. BUT make sure you have all navigation settings (like avoid highways, toll roads and things like that) exactly the same as in the planner (best to leave everything default so you have no worries about that). If you want to navigate the route with waypoints (and re-routing when missing a turn) your device calculates the route for itself. So it is important to have calculation settings on both ends identical. And of course use the HERE map. If your route does not appear in trips, there seems to be a problem with Garmin drive where it skips the routes and only transfers the tracks. Search through this forum to learn about that, I can't help there, I don't have any Zumos anymore.

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

        @Chris-Gossop, if you export a route to your device, do you see it in trips afterwards? If so, use that instead of the track. BUT make sure you have all navigation settings (like avoid highways, toll roads and things like that) exactly the same as in the planner (best to leave everything default so you have no worries about that). If you want to navigate the route with waypoints (and re-routing when missing a turn) your device calculates the route for itself. So it is important to have calculation settings on both ends identical. And of course use the HERE map. If your route does not appear in trips, there seems to be a problem with Garmin drive where it skips the routes and only transfers the tracks. Search through this forum to learn about that, I can't help there, I don't have any Zumos anymore.

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        @Con-Hennekens it is a problem with XT. Re routing on gives you problems. I make my routes with MRA on a pc. I make sure there's enough waypoints that the route goes where I want it to go. No restrictions while planning. Export the route using Drive. In the XT use the trip not the track. No restrictions on the XT. Re routing off. If I miss a waypoint find the route again visually or even better using the MRA app on my phone. Due to a bug in the XT all imported routes seem to be discriminated by the XT and thereby handeld in a different way. Re routing messes up your complete route once you miss a waypoint.

        Honda Goldwing GL1500,
        Honda Silverwing GL 650
        DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
        Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
        Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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        • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

          @Con-Hennekens it is a problem with XT. Re routing on gives you problems. I make my routes with MRA on a pc. I make sure there's enough waypoints that the route goes where I want it to go. No restrictions while planning. Export the route using Drive. In the XT use the trip not the track. No restrictions on the XT. Re routing off. If I miss a waypoint find the route again visually or even better using the MRA app on my phone. Due to a bug in the XT all imported routes seem to be discriminated by the XT and thereby handeld in a different way. Re routing messes up your complete route once you miss a waypoint.

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          @Marinus-van-Deudekom, Are you saying that after the re-calculation the route does not comply to waypoints anymore? Well, I am glad I turned over to MRA completely πŸ˜‰

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

            @Marinus-van-Deudekom, Are you saying that after the re-calculation the route does not comply to waypoints anymore? Well, I am glad I turned over to MRA completely πŸ˜‰

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            @Con-Hennekens It does compli with the way points but it makes a route of its own. A route of about 200 km became about 450 due to all the extras I didn't want. This bug in the XT makes re routing almost impossible

            Honda Goldwing GL1500,
            Honda Silverwing GL 650
            DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
            Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
            Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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            • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

              @Con-Hennekens It does compli with the way points but it makes a route of its own. A route of about 200 km became about 450 due to all the extras I didn't want. This bug in the XT makes re routing almost impossible

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              @Marinus-van-Deudekom, Is that a common error on XT devices? I cannot imagine the Zumo coming up with 250km of extra road while being setup for the quickest way... Silly question maybe: do you have the OnRoute Motormap activated by any chance?

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                @Marinus-van-Deudekom, Is that a common error on XT devices? I cannot imagine the Zumo coming up with 250km of extra road while being setup for the quickest way... Silly question maybe: do you have the OnRoute Motormap activated by any chance?

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                @Con-Hennekens no Onroute map
                I hear it’s a bug on the XT

                Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                Honda Silverwing GL 650
                DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                  @Con-Hennekens no Onroute map
                  I hear it’s a bug on the XT

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                  @Marinus-van-Deudekom, ok, a rather severe one I would say... thanks!

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                  • Chris Gossopundefined Chris Gossop

                    @paul-69 thanks for that, so when saving in MRA save differently as a trip and not a track.

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                    @Chris-Gossop said in Re-routing when going off the route:

                    so when saving in MRA save differently as a trip and not a track.

                    I have been messing around with zumo XT for quite some time it can be a pain in the arse with navigating.
                    without getting too complicated, when you plan a route you will probably add shaping points so your route goes on roads you want to ride on.
                    when you send this route to your XT, it will decide on the best way between each shaping point, if there happens to be a quicker route between two points then the XT will take you that way.

                    since discovering MRA I always save my routes as 1.2gpx file, and when I send this to my XT it sends a track and a trip, however the trip does not have any waypoints although it will match your planned route perfectly,

                    my I suggest you join this forum
                    https://www.zumouserforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1464
                    jfheath is very knowledgeable.

                    to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
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                    Oukitel RT3
                    iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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                      hi @Chris-Gossop

                      when I import from MRA the route and track get imported, but sometimes the route gets changed slightly by XT because it believes it knows a quicker/faster way between shaping/via points and its not always noticeable unless you always show the track and you can then compare and make adjustments as necesasary

                      two examples below
                      I planned a route on MRA and imported it, you can see in the top photo that XT had changed it. The black line is the track which never gets changed on import.

                      first time I imported

                      IMG_0420.jpeg

                      I then edited by adding more via points then imported again and it matched the original

                      IMG_0421.jpeg

                      you can then see it matches my original route perfectly as it lies on top of the track.

                      to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                      K1600 GTL
                      Oukitel RT3
                      iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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