GPX 1.1 or 1.2
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I find that Basecamp is a nightmare, obviously written by a mad professor. MRA Gold and the ability to send a route from your phone to Zumo via Bluetooth (I have the 346) is a revelation.
Anyway, 1.1 or 1.2? What I have noticed using 1.2 is that the route ridden will be exactly as planned, no matter how few shaping or via points are used. With 1.1, the Zumo still liked to decide its own "better" routing on occasion despite Off-Route Recalculation being switched off. I'm not fussed about seeing the shaping points but they can easily be changed to via points (that are visible) anyway.@Carl-Lee said in GPX 1.1 or 1.2:
Anyway, 1.1 or 1.2?
Actually, I think that GPX 1.2 does not exist, at least not as an official standard.The current version of the standard appears to be GPX 1.1 released in 2004. (https://www.topografix.com/gpx.asp). The development of that standard seems to have stopped? But the experts of MR can tell a lot more about that probably.
GPX 1.2 seems to be an MRA or Garmin interpretation of GPX 1.1 that is adding functionality not able to achieve with 1.1?
It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby
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@Carl-Lee said in GPX 1.1 or 1.2:
Anyway, 1.1 or 1.2?
Actually, I think that GPX 1.2 does not exist, at least not as an official standard.The current version of the standard appears to be GPX 1.1 released in 2004. (https://www.topografix.com/gpx.asp). The development of that standard seems to have stopped? But the experts of MR can tell a lot more about that probably.
GPX 1.2 seems to be an MRA or Garmin interpretation of GPX 1.1 that is adding functionality not able to achieve with 1.1?
@Drabslab Think I'll be sticking with 1.1. I prefer that the Shaping points are included as well as the Via points - easier to modify a route on the go by skipping a shaping point if necessary.
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@Drabslab Think I'll be sticking with 1.1. I prefer that the Shaping points are included as well as the Via points - easier to modify a route on the go by skipping a shaping point if necessary.
GPX1.2 was an example of MRA going the extra mile for its end users of the Garmin XT and some other Garmins.
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@JW-0
Do you work on a windows PC or a Mac?
Max viapoints are 28@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in GPX 1.1 or 1.2:
@JW-0
Do you work on a windows PC or a Mac?
Max viapoints are 28I work with Windows 11 Hans
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@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in GPX 1.1 or 1.2:
@JW-0
Do you work on a windows PC or a Mac?
Max viapoints are 28I work with Windows 11 Hans
Do you have an Micro sd card in your XT?
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Yes I have.
Take it out, or put some garmin xml on it?ps: how can I get a notification/email that you answere?
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Yes I have.
Take it out, or put some garmin xml on it?ps: how can I get a notification/email that you answere?
I have all notifications at notification and email.Take the card out and try it again
This is what Garmin says in the manual"
The device does not appear as a portable device or as a removable drive or volume on my computer
Disconnect the USB cable from the computer.
Switch off the device.
Connect the USB cable to your device and to a USB port on your computer.
TIP: The USB cable should be connected to a USB port on your computer and not to a USB hub.
The device will automatically turn on and switch to MTP mode or USB mass storage mode. Then an image of the device connected to a computer appears on the screen of the device.NOTE: If several network drives are connected to the computer, Windows
may have problems assigning drive letters to your Garmin drives. For more information about assigning drive letters, see the Help file for your operating system. -
I use the exact same method as @Don-Stauffer.
It works flawlessly for iOS and Android.Regarding Using GPX1.1 or GPX1.2 the choice is yours to make.
If you only want to visibly see the Via Points on the XT map use GPX1.2 .
If you want to see the Via Points and the Shaping Points on the XT Map then use GPX1.1.Some screenshots below from my iPad Pro.
Open the route directly in the Routes folder not the Routelab.
For me it shows the pop up in the top right corner on my iPad Pro where I can select Garmin Drive.
@Steve-Lynch Hi Steve, I'm back again. I think via points are waypoints but what are shaping points? And why would I need them? I had a hard time getting my XT to hook up with my iPad but after I get that fixed it works great. It took about an hour to get everything hooked up and do one trip but then it took two or three minutes each to do two more. Thanks again for the help.
Artbone
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@Steve-Lynch Hi Steve, I'm back again. I think via points are waypoints but what are shaping points? And why would I need them? I had a hard time getting my XT to hook up with my iPad but after I get that fixed it works great. It took about an hour to get everything hooked up and do one trip but then it took two or three minutes each to do two more. Thanks again for the help.
Artbone
I am told MRA prefers to call them Routepoints rather than Waypoints.
For the XT this means Via Points which you plan to stop at and Shaping Points which Shape the Route.If you use GPX1.2 and additional via Points then you will visibly see the flag icons on the XT map and Hand Icons in MRA RoutePlanner.
Via points will announce themselves visibly on the XT screen when approaching them.If you use GPX1.2 and you also have Shaping Points in your Route then the Shaping Points are used to shape the route.
Shaping Points will appear in MRA RoutePlanner as Balloon icons but on The XT map you will not see them.
Shaping Points will never announce themselves visibly on the XT screen when approaching them.If you use GPX1.1 and use Via Points then you will visibly see the flag icons on the XT map and Hand Icons in MRA RoutePlanner.
Via points will announce themselves visibly on the XT screen when approaching them.If you use GPX1.1 and you also have Shaping Points in your Route then the Shaping Points are used to shape the route.
Shaping points will appear in MRA RoutePlanner as Balloon icons and on The XT map you will see them as blue dots.
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@Rob-Wilkie After a lot of work, I gave up on Basecamp and purchased a lifetime Gold MRA membership. I have the Garmin Drive app on my Android phone already, and it has been linked to my Zumo GPS.
My workflow to load a route into the Garmin Zumo XT is like this:
- Build the route using MRA, usually from my desktop.
- Open the route on my Android phone using the MRA mobile app.
- Select the Download button from the MRA app on the phone, I have been using .gpx 1.1 format.
- A pop up announces 'File has been saved!' and shows a link for 'Export'.
- Touching 'Export' automatically opens the Garmin Drive app, and asks 'Would you like to send it to your Garmin device?'
- The route then downloads to the Zumo XT. On the Zumo, choose 'Apps', then 'Trip Planner.' Your new route will be visible there.
It sounds more complicated than it is, and requires no cable connection.
With the exception of a flawed release of the Drive app last year, this process has been very reliable and dependable.
-KTM-Don
@Don-Stauffer,
Hi. I have completed the process axactly as you described and everything works OK until opening up trip planner and the route isn't there. I can use a cable from my PC to XT and it works fine but using garmin drive it fails despite Drive stating file has been transfered. Any ideas? -
@Don-Stauffer,
Hi. I have completed the process axactly as you described and everything works OK until opening up trip planner and the route isn't there. I can use a cable from my PC to XT and it works fine but using garmin drive it fails despite Drive stating file has been transfered. Any ideas?@Des-Sheil-0
In my experience using the Routelab directly with Garmin Drive causes issues on my iPad Pro.
Using MyRoute-App Mobile works flawlessly on iOS and Android.See the screenshots I posted above that show each stage of transferring a route to the Garmin XT using MyRoute-App Mobile.
You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.
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@Carl-Lee said in GPX 1.1 or 1.2:
Anyway, 1.1 or 1.2?
Actually, I think that GPX 1.2 does not exist, at least not as an official standard.The current version of the standard appears to be GPX 1.1 released in 2004. (https://www.topografix.com/gpx.asp). The development of that standard seems to have stopped? But the experts of MR can tell a lot more about that probably.
GPX 1.2 seems to be an MRA or Garmin interpretation of GPX 1.1 that is adding functionality not able to achieve with 1.1?
@Drabslab fair enough, no reason to doubt your specifics but it's there and works perfectly (so far) for what I want it to do which is send me on the exact route I planned and only show me the (via) points I select.
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@Drabslab fair enough, no reason to doubt your specifics but it's there and works perfectly (so far) for what I want it to do which is send me on the exact route I planned and only show me the (via) points I select.
@Carl-Lee said in GPX 1.1 or 1.2:
@Drabslab fair enough, no reason to doubt your specifics but it's there and works perfectly (so far) for what I want it to do which is send me on the exact route I planned and only show me the (via) points I select.
I am not saying it is a bad format or that it has no advantages, just that it is not part of the official standard.
Moving away from the standard may lead to long term problems. But, when the standard does not evolving anymore, a company like MRA has no other option it seems
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@Des-Sheil-0
In my experience using the Routelab directly with Garmin Drive causes issues on my iPad Pro.
Using MyRoute-App Mobile works flawlessly on iOS and Android.See the screenshots I posted above that show each stage of transferring a route to the Garmin XT using MyRoute-App Mobile.
@Steve-Lynch I don't think I can help you. My only issue ever was over 1 year ago, there was a release of the Drive App that failed to download to the Zumo. Since the update (V4.19.37) everything has been fine.
Best of luck!
Don Stauffer
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@Steve-Lynch I don't think I can help you. My only issue ever was over 1 year ago, there was a release of the Drive App that failed to download to the Zumo. Since the update (V4.19.37) everything has been fine.
Best of luck!
Don Stauffer
No Help required here the XT is faultless for me.
You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.
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No Help required here the XT is faultless for me.
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I know this topic is very old, not sure if its been discussed again.
I'm not technically knowledgeable about GPX, but
If I use 1.1 transferred to the Zumo via Drive it saves it both as a track and a route. Which seems a good option.
However 1.2 only transfers as a route?No idea why but does the change which is the better format if you wish to follow the exact route as planned?
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@Rob-Wilkie After a lot of work, I gave up on Basecamp and purchased a lifetime Gold MRA membership. I have the Garmin Drive app on my Android phone already, and it has been linked to my Zumo GPS.
My workflow to load a route into the Garmin Zumo XT is like this:
- Build the route using MRA, usually from my desktop.
- Open the route on my Android phone using the MRA mobile app.
- Select the Download button from the MRA app on the phone, I have been using .gpx 1.1 format.
- A pop up announces 'File has been saved!' and shows a link for 'Export'.
- Touching 'Export' automatically opens the Garmin Drive app, and asks 'Would you like to send it to your Garmin device?'
- The route then downloads to the Zumo XT. On the Zumo, choose 'Apps', then 'Trip Planner.' Your new route will be visible there.
It sounds more complicated than it is, and requires no cable connection.
With the exception of a flawed release of the Drive app last year, this process has been very reliable and dependable.
-KTM-Don
@Don-Stauffer This is my first forum post. I HAD to find out how to use the forum to THANK YOU Don for giving the steps to easily and successfully get a .gpx from a website to my Zumo XT!!
I do, though, have to (humbly) add that I had to tap [Share] in the MRA app after tapping [Download]..
