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  • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

    @paul-hulsegge Things you could check:

    You can have used a different map on MRA routeplanner than is available on your device. For a garmin, you need to use the HER map on the routeplanner, which is the same as on your garmin. Still, the map on you device could be outdated compared to the on-line map.

    there can be a difference in settings yuo made on MRA compared to your device. Potentially, your garmin is pushing yuo on the highway in between waypoints?

    Are there any roadblocks or closed roads not known to your device?

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    @drabslab Thx for your reply. at this moment I have the basic MRA. Seems I have to move to gold for HERE.
    Will be a serious option for me now.
    I am planning a trip in August so I think that traffic roadblocks is at this moment not an issue to make the gap in time.

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    • PAD 0undefined PAD 0

      @paul-hulsegge Could you provide links to the routes, please? That is a big discrepancy between journey times and the Garmin one seems very pessimistic for that sort of distance. And could you state which BMW-Garmin device you are using too?

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      @pad-0 Thx for your reply. at this moment I have the basic MRA. basis other replies it seems I have to move to gold for HERE. Will be a serious option for me now.
      I have the BMW Navigator VI with regular updates.
      I 1st made my trip in MRA. & after downloading to NAvigator, I made sure my intermediate points were exacrly the same. Even zooming in, my roads I selected are the same.

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      • paul hulseggeundefined paul hulsegge

        @pad-0 Thx for your reply. at this moment I have the basic MRA. basis other replies it seems I have to move to gold for HERE. Will be a serious option for me now.
        I have the BMW Navigator VI with regular updates.
        I 1st made my trip in MRA. & after downloading to NAvigator, I made sure my intermediate points were exacrly the same. Even zooming in, my roads I selected are the same.

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        @paul-hulsegge Good idea to become "gold". But Pad 0 is right as well, there is avery bgi difference btween the time calcualted by MRA (even when it is the free version) and Garmin.

        If you make your route public we could have a look at it.

        It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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        • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

          @paul-hulsegge Good idea to become "gold". But Pad 0 is right as well, there is avery bgi difference btween the time calcualted by MRA (even when it is the free version) and Garmin.

          If you make your route public we could have a look at it.

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          Yes, a subscription to the Routeplanner app makes for a very useable tool. My thinking in asking for route links is that, due to potential discrepancies in road placement between different map layers, you might have inadvertently ended up with a waypoint or waypoints on the wrong side of a dual carriageway or some such. That could significantly increase route length and still potentially go unnoticed.

          I don’t think the sat nav in question introduces much by way of settings that could affect trip duration. That would be more in BaseCamp territory, but that's out of the equation it seems.

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          • PAD 0undefined PAD 0

            Yes, a subscription to the Routeplanner app makes for a very useable tool. My thinking in asking for route links is that, due to potential discrepancies in road placement between different map layers, you might have inadvertently ended up with a waypoint or waypoints on the wrong side of a dual carriageway or some such. That could significantly increase route length and still potentially go unnoticed.

            I don’t think the sat nav in question introduces much by way of settings that could affect trip duration. That would be more in BaseCamp territory, but that's out of the equation it seems.

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            @pad-0 Often, things like this have a very simple explanation, it is the finding of that explanation that is difficult 🙂

            Hene, my request to Paul to show us the route so we can check.

            It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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            • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

              @pad-0 Often, things like this have a very simple explanation, it is the finding of that explanation that is difficult 🙂

              Hene, my request to Paul to show us the route so we can check.

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              @drabslab We’re on the same page in that!

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              • PAD 0undefined PAD 0

                @paul-hulsegge Could you provide links to the routes, please? That is a big discrepancy between journey times and the Garmin one seems very pessimistic for that sort of distance. And could you state which BMW-Garmin device you are using too?

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                @pad-0 I made below public (I hope 😉 )
                https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/5538378
                https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/5544459

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                • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

                  @paul-hulsegge Good idea to become "gold". But Pad 0 is right as well, there is avery bgi difference btween the time calcualted by MRA (even when it is the free version) and Garmin.

                  If you make your route public we could have a look at it.

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                  @drabslab I made below public (I hope 😉 )
                  https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/5538378
                  https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/5544459

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                  • paul hulseggeundefined paul hulsegge

                    @drabslab I made below public (I hope 😉 )
                    https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/5538378
                    https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/5544459

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                    @paul-hulsegge

                    Hello Paul,

                    Use the Here-map instead of the OSM map (Green line is the Here-line)

                    b111f5df-c713-48b5-8543-a61da55d1638-image.png

                    Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                    Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                    • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                      @paul-hulsegge

                      Hello Paul,

                      Use the Here-map instead of the OSM map (Green line is the Here-line)

                      b111f5df-c713-48b5-8543-a61da55d1638-image.png

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                      @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master ok thanks for the tip. I will change and effect effect towards Navigator VI

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                      • paul hulseggeundefined paul hulsegge

                        @pad-0 I made below public (I hope 😉 )
                        https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/5538378
                        https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/5544459

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                        @paul-hulsegge A number of waypoints are positioned off road to a greater or lesser extent, particularly in the first route. That said, with two exceptions, they don’t appear to be affecting either. Route 1 / No. 10 causes a brief excursion part way down a street before returning (possibly deliberate?) Route 1 / No. 26 causes the route to do a full tour of a roundabout before carrying on its way… Hardly sufficient to cause significant problems. Not on that map layer anyway. But that may not be the case in transfer to your sat nav. Short of me loading the routes onto my Garmin, I can’t really comment further, but I would suggest having a good sequential look at the route as it has transferred. Maybe connect the device to a computer and view the routes in BaseCamp and, if there are any glitches, correct them?

                        Certainly for Garmin users, being able to use the Here layer in MRA Routeplanner makes subscribing worthwhile in itself, but there are numerous other advantages too and I thoroughly recommend it.

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                        • PAD 0undefined PAD 0

                          @paul-hulsegge A number of waypoints are positioned off road to a greater or lesser extent, particularly in the first route. That said, with two exceptions, they don’t appear to be affecting either. Route 1 / No. 10 causes a brief excursion part way down a street before returning (possibly deliberate?) Route 1 / No. 26 causes the route to do a full tour of a roundabout before carrying on its way… Hardly sufficient to cause significant problems. Not on that map layer anyway. But that may not be the case in transfer to your sat nav. Short of me loading the routes onto my Garmin, I can’t really comment further, but I would suggest having a good sequential look at the route as it has transferred. Maybe connect the device to a computer and view the routes in BaseCamp and, if there are any glitches, correct them?

                          Certainly for Garmin users, being able to use the Here layer in MRA Routeplanner makes subscribing worthwhile in itself, but there are numerous other advantages too and I thoroughly recommend it.

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                          @pad-0 thx for yr review and advices. I will follow-up Rgds

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