Total ride time different when exporting to Garmin

[paul hulsegge]

Good morning
I have scheduled. 2 routes: from Luxembourg to Basel & from Basel to Ludwichshafen.
No highways. Both around 350-400 km.
Via MRA approx 5.30 hrs drive. When exporting to my BMW-Garmin nav. both show an approx 7:15hrs driving time. No special settings in Garmin (avoid ….)
Same route, same intermediate points, same roads. (No highways).
Quite a diff of time.
Do others have same experience, do I have to do things differents during/after exporting.?
Thanks for your advice.

[Herko ter Horst]

I assume you planned the route on the Here map? Does your BMW-Garmin device take traffic into account?

[AWDC LAO]

@paul-hulsegge In the Gold version you can comapre between HER, TomTom, move de waypoints to get similar ride times. But their will be always a diffrence in time and in route between 2 divices/version/calculation/traffic.

[Drabslab]

@paul-hulsegge Things you could check:

You can have used a different map on MRA routeplanner than is available on your device. For a garmin, you need to use the HER map on the routeplanner, which is the same as on your garmin. Still, the map on you device could be outdated compared to the on-line map.

there can be a difference in settings yuo made on MRA compared to your device. Potentially, your garmin is pushing yuo on the highway in between waypoints?

Are there any roadblocks or closed roads not known to your device?

[PAD 0]

@paul-hulsegge Could you provide links to the routes, please? That is a big discrepancy between journey times and the Garmin one seems very pessimistic for that sort of distance. And could you state which BMW-Garmin device you are using too?

[paul hulsegge]

@herko-ter-horst Thx for your reply. at this moment I have the basic MRA. Seems I have to move to gold for HERE.
Will be a serious option for me now.
I am planning a trip in August so I think that traffic is at this moment not an issue to make the gap in time.

[paul hulsegge]

@awdc-lao Thx for your reply. at this moment I have the basic MRA. Seems I have to move to gold for HERE.
Will be a serious option for me now.

[paul hulsegge]

@drabslab Thx for your reply. at this moment I have the basic MRA. Seems I have to move to gold for HERE.
Will be a serious option for me now.
I am planning a trip in August so I think that traffic roadblocks is at this moment not an issue to make the gap in time.

[paul hulsegge]

@pad-0 Thx for your reply. at this moment I have the basic MRA. basis other replies it seems I have to move to gold for HERE. Will be a serious option for me now.
I have the BMW Navigator VI with regular updates.
I 1st made my trip in MRA. & after downloading to NAvigator, I made sure my intermediate points were exacrly the same. Even zooming in, my roads I selected are the same.

[Drabslab]

@paul-hulsegge Good idea to become "gold". But Pad 0 is right as well, there is avery bgi difference btween the time calcualted by MRA (even when it is the free version) and Garmin.

If you make your route public we could have a look at it.

[PAD 0]

Yes, a subscription to the Routeplanner app makes for a very useable tool. My thinking in asking for route links is that, due to potential discrepancies in road placement between different map layers, you might have inadvertently ended up with a waypoint or waypoints on the wrong side of a dual carriageway or some such. That could significantly increase route length and still potentially go unnoticed.

I don’t think the sat nav in question introduces much by way of settings that could affect trip duration. That would be more in BaseCamp territory, but that's out of the equation it seems.

[Drabslab]

@pad-0 Often, things like this have a very simple explanation, it is the finding of that explanation that is difficult

Hene, my request to Paul to show us the route so we can check.

[PAD 0]

@drabslab We’re on the same page in that!

[paul hulsegge]

@pad-0 I made below public (I hope )
https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/5538378
https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/5544459

[paul hulsegge]

@drabslab I made below public (I hope )
https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/5538378
https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/5544459

[Hans van de Ven MR.MRA]

@paul-hulsegge

Hello Paul,

Use the Here-map instead of the OSM map (Green line is the Here-line)

[paul hulsegge]

@hans-van-de-ven-mra-master ok thanks for the tip. I will change and effect effect towards Navigator VI

[PAD 0]

@paul-hulsegge A number of waypoints are positioned off road to a greater or lesser extent, particularly in the first route. That said, with two exceptions, they don’t appear to be affecting either. Route 1 / No. 10 causes a brief excursion part way down a street before returning (possibly deliberate?) Route 1 / No. 26 causes the route to do a full tour of a roundabout before carrying on its way… Hardly sufficient to cause significant problems. Not on that map layer anyway. But that may not be the case in transfer to your sat nav. Short of me loading the routes onto my Garmin, I can’t really comment further, but I would suggest having a good sequential look at the route as it has transferred. Maybe connect the device to a computer and view the routes in BaseCamp and, if there are any glitches, correct them?

Certainly for Garmin users, being able to use the Here layer in MRA Routeplanner makes subscribing worthwhile in itself, but there are numerous other advantages too and I thoroughly recommend it.

[paul hulsegge]

@pad-0 thx for yr review and advices. I will follow-up Rgds