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SilverFox C1 button not working in MRA

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  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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    What do the buttons show as "output" when going to this site: https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/keypress-tester/

    • Open the website
    • Connect SilverFox
    • Press buttons

    I am curious what the panning joystick (the one that does not work) outputs in F2 mode.

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    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

      What do the buttons show as "output" when going to this site: https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/keypress-tester/

      • Open the website
      • Connect SilverFox
      • Press buttons

      I am curious what the panning joystick (the one that does not work) outputs in F2 mode.

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      #7

      @Corjan-Meijerink said in SilverFox C1 button not working in MRA:

      What do the buttons show as "output" when going to this site: https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/keypress-tester/

      It's a bit weird.
      In F2, only button 2 (the one working with MRA) sends characters to that web site. Button 1 clicks are not registered on the Web site.

      In F1 none of the buttons register anything. But as mentioned previously, both buttons work fine in F1 with Waze. So the C1 does send some keys in F1 mode, but these are not registered on the Web site.

      Best regards, Makro

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      • Makroundefined Makro

        @Corjan-Meijerink said in SilverFox C1 button not working in MRA:

        What do the buttons show as "output" when going to this site: https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/keypress-tester/

        It's a bit weird.
        In F2, only button 2 (the one working with MRA) sends characters to that web site. Button 1 clicks are not registered on the Web site.

        In F1 none of the buttons register anything. But as mentioned previously, both buttons work fine in F1 with Waze. So the C1 does send some keys in F1 mode, but these are not registered on the Web site.

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        @Makro Hi Marco,
        I have a different problem with my C1 controller (the first joystick doesn't work when zooming out)
        All other tasks are performing perfectly.
        The second panning stick works in all directions.
        I also think that MRA could be the source of the problem.

        I have a ticket on this and Corjan knows my case.

        I have documented all clicks with the two sticks as screenshots and stored them in the ticket.

        Maybe you can also take screenshots of the respective clicks and send them to Corjan.

        Maybe Corjan can narrow down the error and fix it.

        BMW R 1250 GS
        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
        BMW Connected Ride Cradle
        SPC Universal mount
        Motorola Edge 40
        Sena SLR 3
        Sena 50 R

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        • Makroundefined Offline
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          I just realized how to fix this. Well not entirely.

          The SilverFox Buttons app say I need to enable the accessibility service in Android. So I did this before testing MRA. If I had not done so, MRA would work fine.
          This is located in Settings, accessibility, installed apps, Controller Accessibility.
          Enabling this has some implications. MRA does not work properly, and the onscreen web key logger (Corjans link) does not register all clicks.

          So I can use either Buttons app or MRA, but not both. Unless I change the accessibility setting in between.

          Best regards, Makro

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          • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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            So disabling that Android setting was the fix? Now it works as expected?

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            • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

              So disabling that Android setting was the fix? Now it works as expected?

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              #11

              @Corjan-Meijerink The Button App is needed, for example, using Google Maps in F1 mode. When I have the Button App installed, MRA generally works incorrectly.
              Riku knows this and referred me to the DMD forum...but unfortunately, no one there answers...Riku himself contacted the DMD forum, and Joao told him he'd like to look into the topic sometime...that was about two months ago.
              I don't have the Button App installed anymore, and as I said, everything works (only zooming out doesn't work).

              BMW R 1250 GS
              MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
              BMW Connected Ride Cradle
              SPC Universal mount
              Motorola Edge 40
              Sena SLR 3
              Sena 50 R

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              • Arjan de Vriesundefined Offline
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                If you contact SIlverfox you can get the latest firmware which is still in testing fase. I did that and everything works.

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                • Arjan de Vriesundefined Arjan de Vries

                  If you contact SIlverfox you can get the latest firmware which is still in testing fase. I did that and everything works.

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                  #13

                  @Arjan-de-Vries Firmware update 1.2 already done, I even received a replacement unit from SilverFox. Unfortunately, zooming out is still not possible.

                  BMW R 1250 GS
                  MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                  BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                  SPC Universal mount
                  Motorola Edge 40
                  Sena SLR 3
                  Sena 50 R

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                  • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                    @Arjan-de-Vries Firmware update 1.2 already done, I even received a replacement unit from SilverFox. Unfortunately, zooming out is still not possible.

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                    Marinus van Deudekom
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                    #14

                    @Peter-Zehentreiter last week I received update 1.6 from Riku

                    Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                    Honda Silverwing GL 650
                    DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                    Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                    Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                    • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                      @Peter-Zehentreiter last week I received update 1.6 from Riku

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                      @Marinus-van-Deudekom I find it hard to believe the problem is with the C1 controller. Riku thoroughly tested the replacement device for functionality before sending it to me. The controller works even when I use other apps with it.
                      Only zooming out in MRA doesn't work.

                      Centering the map, switching to different modes, skipping waypoints, zooming in, everything works. Moving the map... all without problems. As already mentioned... I've created a ticket and hope Corjan will find the error.

                      BMW R 1250 GS
                      MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                      BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                      SPC Universal mount
                      Motorola Edge 40
                      Sena SLR 3
                      Sena 50 R

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                      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                        @Peter-Zehentreiter last week I received update 1.6 from Riku

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                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in SilverFox C1 button not working in MRA:

                        @Peter-Zehentreiter last week I received update 1.6 from Riku

                        What does the 1.6 do instead of the 1.2?

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                          C1 has 1.2 update
                          H1 has 1.6

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                          • Arjan de Vriesundefined Arjan de Vries

                            C1 has 1.2 update
                            H1 has 1.6

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                            @Arjan-de-Vries in the readme 1.6 said it was suitable for all Silverfox remotes

                            Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                            Honda Silverwing GL 650
                            DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                            Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                            Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                            • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                              @Arjan-de-Vries in the readme 1.6 said it was suitable for all Silverfox remotes

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                              @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in SilverFox C1 button not working in MRA:

                              @Arjan-de-Vries in the readme 1.6 said it was suitable for all Silverfox remotes

                              I asked Riku from silverfox. He told me this.

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                              • Arjan de Vriesundefined Arjan de Vries

                                @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in SilverFox C1 button not working in MRA:

                                @Arjan-de-Vries in the readme 1.6 said it was suitable for all Silverfox remotes

                                I asked Riku from silverfox. He told me this.

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                                Marinus van Deudekom
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                                @Arjan-de-Vries Riku knows best💪

                                Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                                Honda Silverwing GL 650
                                DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                                Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                                Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                                  I have been in contact with SilverFox. I described the issue. They are aware of it.
                                  It is something to do with the Buttons app, unfortunately. It is developed and administered by DMD/Thork Racing, but SilverFox are in the early stages of developing their own app.

                                  So, for now I will have to decide if I want the controller to be Waze/Maps or MRA compatible, before I start riding.

                                  Best regards, Makro

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                                  • Makroundefined Makro

                                    I have been in contact with SilverFox. I described the issue. They are aware of it.
                                    It is something to do with the Buttons app, unfortunately. It is developed and administered by DMD/Thork Racing, but SilverFox are in the early stages of developing their own app.

                                    So, for now I will have to decide if I want the controller to be Waze/Maps or MRA compatible, before I start riding.

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                                    @Makro said in SilverFox C1 button not working in MRA:

                                    I have been in contact with SilverFox. I described the issue. They are aware of it.
                                    It is something to do with the Buttons app, unfortunately. It is developed and administered by DMD/Thork Racing, but SilverFox are in the early stages of developing their own app.

                                    So, for now I will have to decide if I want the controller to be Waze/Maps or MRA compatible, before I start riding.

                                    What do you do before riding?
                                    I have the T865X and the C1. It disconnects every time i turn of the engine. After starting again, the connection will not happen. I have to remove the C1 through the settings en reconnect again. Any ideas?

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                                    • Arjan de Vriesundefined Arjan de Vries

                                      @Makro said in SilverFox C1 button not working in MRA:

                                      I have been in contact with SilverFox. I described the issue. They are aware of it.
                                      It is something to do with the Buttons app, unfortunately. It is developed and administered by DMD/Thork Racing, but SilverFox are in the early stages of developing their own app.

                                      So, for now I will have to decide if I want the controller to be Waze/Maps or MRA compatible, before I start riding.

                                      What do you do before riding?
                                      I have the T865X and the C1. It disconnects every time i turn of the engine. After starting again, the connection will not happen. I have to remove the C1 through the settings en reconnect again. Any ideas?

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                                      @Arjan-de-Vries said in SilverFox C1 button not working in MRA:

                                      I have the T865X and the C1. It disconnects every time i turn of the engine. After starting again, the connection will not happen. I have to remove the C1 through the settings en reconnect again. Any ideas?

                                      You have another setup than I do. Your Silverfox is wired to your tablet for both power and data, while mine uses Bluetooth to my tablet for data. Apparantly that changes how things work.

                                      Best regards, Makro

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                                        What is your setup??

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