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Silverfox H1+ long-press

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  • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

    I'm already emailing with Riku about this 🙂

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    wrote on last edited by Quim N
    #13

    @Corjan-Meijerink Riku fron Silverfox sent me a couple of firmware updates to test them and now all buttons short and long-press do work fine.
    I've tested it through DMD buttons app, in F2 mode via bluetooth (wich is the setting needed for MuRouteApp) and it returns these codes:
    Center (•) short 31, long 32
    Minus (-) short 69, long 29
    Plus (+) short 70, long 30

    Now the only issue seems to be on MyRoute's side, because not all button functions work in all menus and sub-submenus. This is what i've found:

    Navigation view:
    (•) toggles compass modes
    Long (•) skip waypoint
    (-) zoom out
    Long (-) does nothing [should toggle timer modes?]
    (+) zoom in
    Long (+) enters menu

    Navigation menu:
    (-) exits menu

    Map view
    (•) compass
    (-) zoom out
    (+) zoom in
    Long (+) enters menu

    Main menu:
    (•) enters item
    (-) exits menu
    Long (+) also exits menu

    Account menu and sub-menus:
    (-) exits menu
    Long (+) also exits menu

    Other menus:
    -no enter, no exit (e.g no way to select or to initiate route)
    -no way to access back arrow (on top left) nor other top screen items with joystick arrows

    Thank you!

    1250GSA - DMD865X - SilverfoxH1+

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      The new firmware is indeed working correct! Resolving the issue of long pressing also submitting a short press function 🙂 Nice that Riku fixed it that quickly!

      I will confirm that we support the new firmware. He will then probably update it on his website for others to download. I could not find any issues in our app apart from the fact that we don't offer full app support for bluetooth controllers.

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      • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

        The new firmware is indeed working correct! Resolving the issue of long pressing also submitting a short press function 🙂 Nice that Riku fixed it that quickly!

        I will confirm that we support the new firmware. He will then probably update it on his website for others to download. I could not find any issues in our app apart from the fact that we don't offer full app support for bluetooth controllers.

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        #15

        @Corjan-Meijerink I understand there is no need, and may be rather dangerous, to navigate all menus through a bluetooth controller, but could it be possible just to associate (-)button long-press to toggle timer modes? It is the only function I fount not working with Silverfox in navigation mode.

        Thanks!

        1250GSA - DMD865X - SilverfoxH1+

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        • Marinus van Deudekom Offline
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          Marinus van Deudekom
          RouteXpert
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          I've had contact with Riku from Silverfox. On my request he made an update for the H1 trying to solve the long press issue. Unfortunately something went wrong on his side witch makes the update unable to use. He will come back to me once the problem is solved. I did not want to take the chance of my upcoming trip to be spoild

          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
          Honda Silverwing GL 650
          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
          Garmin XT sold
          Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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          • Quim N Quim N

            @Corjan-Meijerink I understand there is no need, and may be rather dangerous, to navigate all menus through a bluetooth controller, but could it be possible just to associate (-)button long-press to toggle timer modes? It is the only function I fount not working with Silverfox in navigation mode.

            Thanks!

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            Corjan Meijerink
            Developer
            wrote on last edited by
            #17

            @Quim-N I just tested the C1 in navigation mode to toggle the ETA and that works as expected. I assume it works with all SilverFox controllers.

            Are you actually driving a route with waypoints? Otherwise the function just does not work on MRA side 😉

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            • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

              @Quim-N I just tested the C1 in navigation mode to toggle the ETA and that works as expected. I assume it works with all SilverFox controllers.

              Are you actually driving a route with waypoints? Otherwise the function just does not work on MRA side 😉

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              Marinus van Deudekom
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              wrote on last edited by
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              @Corjan-Meijerink Yes but for the H1 the update was not applicable. It seems that the update will cause serious problems to the controller that can only be resolved with the developers tools, witch we don't.
              That's what Riku told me regarding the H1 controller

              Honda Goldwing GL1500,
              Honda Silverwing GL 650
              DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
              Garmin XT sold
              Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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              • Marinus van Deudekom Marinus van Deudekom

                @Corjan-Meijerink Yes but for the H1 the update was not applicable. It seems that the update will cause serious problems to the controller that can only be resolved with the developers tools, witch we don't.
                That's what Riku told me regarding the H1 controller

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                Corjan Meijerink
                Developer
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                #19

                @Marinus-van-Deudekom how is this relevant to my comment? 😛

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                • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                  @Quim-N I just tested the C1 in navigation mode to toggle the ETA and that works as expected. I assume it works with all SilverFox controllers.

                  Are you actually driving a route with waypoints? Otherwise the function just does not work on MRA side 😉

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                  Nick Carthew
                  RouteXpert
                  wrote on last edited by Nick Carthew
                  #20

                  @Corjan-Meijerink Do you know if Riku will be making the updated firmware available publicly? I’ve just checked the SilverFox website and I couldn’t see any updates.
                  As you know, I have the B8J and although the longpress triggering the short press command doesn’t really bother me, but if there was an easy fix by updating the firmware I’d like to be able to do it.

                  Cancel this request, I’ve just read your new update post 😀

                  Always willing to help if I can.
                  Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                  MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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                  • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                    @Marinus-van-Deudekom how is this relevant to my comment? 😛

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                    Marinus van Deudekom
                    RouteXpert
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #21

                    @Corjan-Meijerink I just repeated the warning I received from Riku and he concluded that the C1 and H1 react different on the update

                    Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                    Honda Silverwing GL 650
                    DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                    Garmin XT sold
                    Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                    • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew

                      @Corjan-Meijerink Do you know if Riku will be making the updated firmware available publicly? I’ve just checked the SilverFox website and I couldn’t see any updates.
                      As you know, I have the B8J and although the longpress triggering the short press command doesn’t really bother me, but if there was an easy fix by updating the firmware I’d like to be able to do it.

                      Cancel this request, I’ve just read your new update post 😀

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                      Corjan Meijerink
                      Developer
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #22

                      @Nick-Carthew you still need the firmware from SilverFox. For sure he’ll distribute it when ready for all controllers.

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                      • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                        @Quim-N I just tested the C1 in navigation mode to toggle the ETA and that works as expected. I assume it works with all SilverFox controllers.

                        Are you actually driving a route with waypoints? Otherwise the function just does not work on MRA side 😉

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                        Quim N
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #23

                        @Corjan-Meijerink I always navigate routes with a lot of shaping and some via points. That's why I find ETA toggle interesting.

                        After your comment I've done more navigation testing, in my 'Silverfox H1+' on a 'DMD 865x' tablet, and I found that I'm just able to toggle ETA modes with short-pressing (+)button in F1 mode via cable connection (!), but that's useless because in that setting nothing else works in MRA (the proper setting being F2 mode via Bluetooth).

                        I can't remember where I read that ETA toggle function was usually thriggered by long-pressing (-), but maybe I'm wrong.

                        If you say that C1 works fine, then I think there must be differences between C1, H1+, etc. and if so this could be solved by either unifying buttons coding between them or creating different Silverfox profiles in MRA settings. Or you'd better check this talking directly with Riku, because all this issue is in fact like a blackbox for me.

                        I'm sorry for bothering you too much with this matter, and thanks for your attention.

                        1250GSA - DMD865X - SilverfoxH1+

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                        • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                          @Nick-Carthew you still need the firmware from SilverFox. For sure he’ll distribute it when ready for all controllers.

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                          @Corjan-Meijerink Hello Corjan, would it be possible for you, to update the support page and include the functions of the C1 unit? That would be very helpful. Thank you in advance.

                          https://unterstutzung.myrouteapp.com/de/support/solutions/articles/12000103174-bluetooth-controllers

                          BMW R 1250 GS
                          MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                          DMD-NOR7E 7"
                          SPC Universal mount
                          Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                          Sena SLR 3
                          Sena 50 R

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                          • Peter Zehentreiter Peter Zehentreiter

                            @Corjan-Meijerink Hello Corjan, would it be possible for you, to update the support page and include the functions of the C1 unit? That would be very helpful. Thank you in advance.

                            https://unterstutzung.myrouteapp.com/de/support/solutions/articles/12000103174-bluetooth-controllers

                            Corjan Meijerink Online
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                            Corjan Meijerink
                            Developer
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #25

                            @Peter-Zehentreiter yes, those will be updated.
                            Still waiting for our shipment of C1 controllers.

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