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  • Uwe Schoelichundefined Offline
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    Uwe Schoelich
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    Hello everyone,

    Since using MRA I have a problem with the route creation of MRA. Whether routing between two points or creating a round trip, there are always places where pointless loops or driveways are created with the need to turn. The route always looks great in the overview, but then the nonsense comes to light while driving. I'll post some pictures to prove this. It really happens every time. Something like this could be checked before a route is issued, couldn't it? The context is missing. And during the motorcycle ride, there is usually no return to the actual route. Can you manage that? I'd really (!) hate to have to switch to Kurviger, it works perfectly there (as far as these errors are concerned).

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    Thanks in advance.

    Greetings Uwe

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      • UwBundefined Offline
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        Ich habe ähnliches auch beobachtet und nicht nur bei den Rundtouren, sondern scheinbar passiert es wenn die Route als Track gefahren wird?
        Nächste Woche geht es in die Seealpen, dann schau ich mal ob es nur passiert, wen ich eine Route als Track fahre oder MRA ein grundsätzliches Problem hat.
        Aktuell bin ich etwas verunsichert, ob ich nicht doch besser den CRN mitnehme.
        Gruss, Uwe

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        • Uwe Schoelichundefined Offline
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          Hallo Uwe,

          ich übertrage diese Routen auf den CRN und erlebe dann in der Praxis diese Kapriolen. Wenn vorher kontrolliert, fährt der CRN die MRA-Routen perfekt ab (kein Track!). Aber wehe, man vergisst, sich vorher jeden Kilometer im Detail anzuschauen (im MRA) und die Fehler zu retuschieren, dann erwischt es einen vor Ort. Echt ärgerlich. Zumal der kostenlose Kurviger.de-Test einwandfrei ohne diese Auffälligkeiten lief.

          Dir auf jeden Fall einen schönen Urlaub und viel Glück beim Routing.

          Grüße

          Uwe

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          • Martin Woodfordundefined Offline
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            Uwe
            Before you export the route from the route planner to your navi do you zoom in to check every waypoint is actually on the road you want to be on ? are you using the base map your navi recognises ? do you have the settings on your navi set so that it doesn't recalculate ?

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            • Uwe Schoelichundefined Offline
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              Uwe Schoelich
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              Hi Martin,

              sometimes I think about it and check the route in detail in the MRA. Then I find the inconsistencies and iron them out.

              However, if I plan and only assess the route in general and then export it, the errors are also on the CRN. There I import with a lot of shaping points (number differs) and also re-route. However, the route always corresponds to the MRA version (at least as far as the errors are concerned). That's why I don't believe that the navigation settings help.

              The images shown (above) are from the MRA and are also used by the CRN.

              Avoidance: first smooth out in the MRA and then export.

              However, I have neither the time nor the desire to do this, as I believe that the errors mentioned (images above) can be queried by the program, as they were created without waypoints or shaping points. MRA comes up with this without specifications!

              I think this is a topic for the programmers.

              Regards

              Uwe

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              • Albert van den Elsenundefined Offline
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                Hi @Uwe-Schoelich ,
                I have read your story and understand what you are experiencing and what you have already done to prevent problems. To find a good explanation, I would like to ask you to make the MRA route available (share it). I would be happy to take a look and see if the cause of your problem can be identified. Hope this helps! Let me know if you need any refinements.

                Regards,
                Albert
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                • Uwe Schoelichundefined Offline
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                  Uwe Schoelich
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                  Hello Albert,

                  I have set the route to “public” and published it.

                  I can't wait to see what you find out.

                  Greetings

                  Uwe

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                    What I have already learned, however, is that when planning my own route (no generated circular route) I can no longer work with 2 waypoints and then place others in the “green” so that I am routed to interesting areas. Into the green ok, but then move the point to the road, because otherwise (in my attempts 50:50) nonsensical deviations in the direction of the waypoint occur while the actual route continues.

                    This also occurs when testing with Kurviger, if provoked analogously.

                    Regards

                    Uwe

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                    • Tony 13undefined Offline
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                      I have downloaded the route and looking at the error shown in your second picture above the waypoints are all over the place. Not surprised that the route is odd. However, don't know if the waypoints i am seeing correspond to your original plan because it is taken from the track. I don't know how this process works

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                      • Uwe Schoelichundefined Offline
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                        Hi Tony,

                        this is a circular route generated by MRA, I have not set any points (especially not so many in a small area).

                        It may be due to the routine for generating circular routes in general. I was just trying this out, it is not my primary intention to use circular routes.

                        With normal route planning, I now know that points must be placed on the road, so I think I can cope with that for now.

                        And if I do use a circular route, then only with detailed checks.

                        Thanks & best regards

                        Uwe

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                          that is not good then!

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