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Expand Puts Higher Number Waypoints Between Lower Numbered

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  • Tony 13 Offline
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    Tony 13
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    does not do it quite the same on my laptop. But the result is the same, it ends up with waypoints added into the wrong place, effectively creating a double back. Very odd, but no idea why

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    • Martin Woodford Martin Woodford

      I recently created a long route which I split into 11 days. I then used expand to increase the number of waypoints in those splits. Most of them worked OK but two of them inserted higher number waypoints between lower numbers, so as an example the sequence on the map would show 21, 24, 23, 22. The effect of this was that when following the route on my BMW NavVI I would get messages to make a U turn. The route(s) were created using HERE maps and transferred using the connector. Before expanding I checked none of the waypoints I'd plotted were on the wrong side of dual carriageways. or in side roads etc.

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      Adrian Avram
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      @Martin-Woodford
      Just delete all the points between 14 and 12.
      Maybe its a Here map issue, and not MRA's fault.
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      Best regards,
      Adrian

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        @Adrian-Avram
        Hi Adrian
        Thanks for responding but I don't think you've understood the issue. To ensure the (Garmin) BMW NavVI follows the exact route I've plotted I want to make sure there are enough waypoints that it won't make any changes (all of the settings on the NavVI are correct but it's still a known issue that many satnavs change imported routes) so, after I've manually got the route I want I the use the expand function in the toolkit to add multiple additional waypoints. The issue is that on 2 of the 11 routes MRA expand added waypoints out of sequence.

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        • Martin Woodford Martin Woodford

          I recently created a long route which I split into 11 days. I then used expand to increase the number of waypoints in those splits. Most of them worked OK but two of them inserted higher number waypoints between lower numbers, so as an example the sequence on the map would show 21, 24, 23, 22. The effect of this was that when following the route on my BMW NavVI I would get messages to make a U turn. The route(s) were created using HERE maps and transferred using the connector. Before expanding I checked none of the waypoints I'd plotted were on the wrong side of dual carriageways. or in side roads etc.

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          Rob Verhoeff
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          @Martin-Woodford I created my own route exactly according to the coordinates of your route. When I then expand my route to 20 points, I experience exactly the same as your findings. No idea what’s causing that.

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          • Martin Woodford Martin Woodford

            @Adrian-Avram
            Hi Adrian
            Thanks for responding but I don't think you've understood the issue. To ensure the (Garmin) BMW NavVI follows the exact route I've plotted I want to make sure there are enough waypoints that it won't make any changes (all of the settings on the NavVI are correct but it's still a known issue that many satnavs change imported routes) so, after I've manually got the route I want I the use the expand function in the toolkit to add multiple additional waypoints. The issue is that on 2 of the 11 routes MRA expand added waypoints out of sequence.

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            Skellum
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            @Martin-Woodford If you check the co-ordinates of waypoints 13 & 23, you will see for some reason they are the same - It would appear that the route reverses back to 13/23 once it reaches waypoint 14 and the system has added further waypoints (15 - 23) to assist this move.
            Maybe you inadvertently asked MRA to reverse the route from 14 or maybe it is an anomaly within MRA.
            I am sure someone more knowledgable will sort it out. Thanks Tony

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            • Skellum Skellum

              @Martin-Woodford If you check the co-ordinates of waypoints 13 & 23, you will see for some reason they are the same - It would appear that the route reverses back to 13/23 once it reaches waypoint 14 and the system has added further waypoints (15 - 23) to assist this move.
              Maybe you inadvertently asked MRA to reverse the route from 14 or maybe it is an anomaly within MRA.
              I am sure someone more knowledgable will sort it out. Thanks Tony

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              Rob Verhoeff
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              @Skellum I’ve also added extra waypoints to my own routes using the Toolkit expand option. That always works fine. But for some reason, it doesn’t work in @Martin-Woodford route.
              Even when I, for example, move the endpoint to an earlier point in the route by deleting the last three waypoints, the points reappear in a different, illogical locations.

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                Maybe its better to add shaping points manually in key locations, if this issue persists ...

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                • Skellum Skellum

                  @Martin-Woodford If you check the co-ordinates of waypoints 13 & 23, you will see for some reason they are the same - It would appear that the route reverses back to 13/23 once it reaches waypoint 14 and the system has added further waypoints (15 - 23) to assist this move.
                  Maybe you inadvertently asked MRA to reverse the route from 14 or maybe it is an anomaly within MRA.
                  I am sure someone more knowledgable will sort it out. Thanks Tony

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                  Martin Woodford
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                  @Skellum
                  Hi Tony
                  Looking at the labels of the waypoints I think my original route had 14, numbers 1-13 and the final destination which is now #24. When I then used the expand function MRA appears to have added what are now #s 14-23 (they're labeled "waypoint" whereas my manually entered ones have a road designation). What I don't get is 1. why it's put them all in a cluster where it has and 2. why it's reversed the route.
                  Hopefully someone will have the answer.
                  Thanks

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                  • Adrian Avram Adrian Avram

                    Maybe its better to add shaping points manually in key locations, if this issue persists ...

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                    #12

                    @Adrian-Avram
                    Hi Adrian
                    That rather defeats to purpose of having the function.
                    Thanks

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                      Martin Woodford
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                      #13

                      Do we know if anyone from MRA read these forum posts ?
                      Thanks

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                        Yes they do Frequently

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                        de Garmin Zumo XT en M.R.A. in combinatie met de Carpuride W702 (voor Android op de Motor!) en een Samsung Galaxy S24

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                        • Martin Woodford Martin Woodford

                          Do we know if anyone from MRA read these forum posts ?
                          Thanks

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                          Corjan Meijerink
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                          wrote on last edited by
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                          @Martin-Woodford I never do 😛

                          No clue really what's going on for that specific route to be honest!
                          As indicated, most worked flawlessly but why this one route misbehaves is hard to tell.

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