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Multiple issues encountered during MRA navigation

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  • Rajp Offline
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    Have been using the MRA planning app on the web to plan my upcoming trip to Spain and France. All going good with the planning side.

    So I wanted to see how this route would be navigated using MRA navigation app. So I created a small route to work and back with viapoints, waypoints, places to stop, etc.. to mimic what I did for the plan.

    Tried it out today, and was faced with multiple issues.

    iOS: 17.4.1
    MRA: 4.1.2 - 305

    1. Voice Prompts
      During navigation, sometimes voice prompts were spoken telling me to stay left, stay right, 3rd exit from roundabout etc.., however many times there was actual change of direction, a actual turn left / right (at a giveaway or change of road) not just curve in the road and there was no spoken prompt - this is bad as a turn could be easily missed, especially if the phone is in the pocket and you're solely relying on voice prompts.

    2. So I'm riding along, and I have 10miles to go to destination, but realised I'm running out of petrol. I see on the app that a petrol station is 0.8miles away - awesome, I click on the icon and app prompts if I ant to add to my route - I say yes. I was expecting it to interject the petrol stop into the current route as a waypoint, but what it did was add the waypoint at the end, after the destination, so now instead of being 0.8miles aways, it expected me to ride for 10miles to my destination, then ride back 10.x miles to the petrol station - I don't see the point of this, surely it should've updated my route and inserted the petrol stop at the most convenient intersection.

    3. map disappeared (see screenshot) don't know why or how, one minute it was there and the next it disappeared. And with no voice navigation (point 1), navigation via MRA was completely useless.
      IMG_5197.png

    4. When the app reads out upcoming waypoints, it does so while the waypoint is so far out - today I was 1.2miles away from the waypoint when it read out the waypoint, and only did that once - is there a way to change the distance at which it read or ability to repeat the instruction closer to the waypoint?

    I would consider these major issues in relying on MRA for routing.

    Thoughts, advice, recommendations welcomed

    TomOnTour RetiredWingMan Corjan Meijerink 3 Replies Last reply
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    • Rajp Rajp

      Have been using the MRA planning app on the web to plan my upcoming trip to Spain and France. All going good with the planning side.

      So I wanted to see how this route would be navigated using MRA navigation app. So I created a small route to work and back with viapoints, waypoints, places to stop, etc.. to mimic what I did for the plan.

      Tried it out today, and was faced with multiple issues.

      iOS: 17.4.1
      MRA: 4.1.2 - 305

      1. Voice Prompts
        During navigation, sometimes voice prompts were spoken telling me to stay left, stay right, 3rd exit from roundabout etc.., however many times there was actual change of direction, a actual turn left / right (at a giveaway or change of road) not just curve in the road and there was no spoken prompt - this is bad as a turn could be easily missed, especially if the phone is in the pocket and you're solely relying on voice prompts.

      2. So I'm riding along, and I have 10miles to go to destination, but realised I'm running out of petrol. I see on the app that a petrol station is 0.8miles away - awesome, I click on the icon and app prompts if I ant to add to my route - I say yes. I was expecting it to interject the petrol stop into the current route as a waypoint, but what it did was add the waypoint at the end, after the destination, so now instead of being 0.8miles aways, it expected me to ride for 10miles to my destination, then ride back 10.x miles to the petrol station - I don't see the point of this, surely it should've updated my route and inserted the petrol stop at the most convenient intersection.

      3. map disappeared (see screenshot) don't know why or how, one minute it was there and the next it disappeared. And with no voice navigation (point 1), navigation via MRA was completely useless.
        IMG_5197.png

      4. When the app reads out upcoming waypoints, it does so while the waypoint is so far out - today I was 1.2miles away from the waypoint when it read out the waypoint, and only did that once - is there a way to change the distance at which it read or ability to repeat the instruction closer to the waypoint?

      I would consider these major issues in relying on MRA for routing.

      Thoughts, advice, recommendations welcomed

      TomOnTour Offline
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      TomOnTour
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      @Rajp said in Multiple issues encountered during MRA navigation:

      During navigation, sometimes voice prompts were spoken telling me to stay left, stay right, 3rd exit from roundabout etc.., however many times there was actual change of direction, a actual turn left / right (at a giveaway or change of road) not just curve in the road and there was no spoken prompt - this is bad as a turn could be easily missed, especially if the phone is in the pocket and you're solely relying on voice prompts.

      Hi Rajp!

      There might be an issue with routing in MRA abut turning and staying left or right, but sometimes it is related to the map material: I have made some comparisons with ISM and HERE for example and different navigation systems and software: Some gives you the instruction to turn left, but the there is no turn: It is just a curve left and no junction at all. Others recognise the curve as a curve.
      As I said before: I am not sure if there is a bug to not, but I know these situations.

      Greetings
      Thomas

      MyRoute-APP Navigation Next (V5.2.0 - 474) on DMD T665 Navigation phone and on DMD T781

      MRA Routeplanner (Lifetime Gold)
      using iPad Pro (iPadOS 26.6) and Macbook Air (macOS 26.6.1)

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      • Rajp Rajp

        Have been using the MRA planning app on the web to plan my upcoming trip to Spain and France. All going good with the planning side.

        So I wanted to see how this route would be navigated using MRA navigation app. So I created a small route to work and back with viapoints, waypoints, places to stop, etc.. to mimic what I did for the plan.

        Tried it out today, and was faced with multiple issues.

        iOS: 17.4.1
        MRA: 4.1.2 - 305

        1. Voice Prompts
          During navigation, sometimes voice prompts were spoken telling me to stay left, stay right, 3rd exit from roundabout etc.., however many times there was actual change of direction, a actual turn left / right (at a giveaway or change of road) not just curve in the road and there was no spoken prompt - this is bad as a turn could be easily missed, especially if the phone is in the pocket and you're solely relying on voice prompts.

        2. So I'm riding along, and I have 10miles to go to destination, but realised I'm running out of petrol. I see on the app that a petrol station is 0.8miles away - awesome, I click on the icon and app prompts if I ant to add to my route - I say yes. I was expecting it to interject the petrol stop into the current route as a waypoint, but what it did was add the waypoint at the end, after the destination, so now instead of being 0.8miles aways, it expected me to ride for 10miles to my destination, then ride back 10.x miles to the petrol station - I don't see the point of this, surely it should've updated my route and inserted the petrol stop at the most convenient intersection.

        3. map disappeared (see screenshot) don't know why or how, one minute it was there and the next it disappeared. And with no voice navigation (point 1), navigation via MRA was completely useless.
          IMG_5197.png

        4. When the app reads out upcoming waypoints, it does so while the waypoint is so far out - today I was 1.2miles away from the waypoint when it read out the waypoint, and only did that once - is there a way to change the distance at which it read or ability to repeat the instruction closer to the waypoint?

        I would consider these major issues in relying on MRA for routing.

        Thoughts, advice, recommendations welcomed

        RetiredWingMan Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
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        @Rajp are you running the latest version 305?

        2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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        • RetiredWingMan RetiredWingMan

          @Rajp are you running the latest version 305?

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          Rajp
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @RetiredWingMan yes, 4.1.2 - 305

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          • Rajp Rajp

            Have been using the MRA planning app on the web to plan my upcoming trip to Spain and France. All going good with the planning side.

            So I wanted to see how this route would be navigated using MRA navigation app. So I created a small route to work and back with viapoints, waypoints, places to stop, etc.. to mimic what I did for the plan.

            Tried it out today, and was faced with multiple issues.

            iOS: 17.4.1
            MRA: 4.1.2 - 305

            1. Voice Prompts
              During navigation, sometimes voice prompts were spoken telling me to stay left, stay right, 3rd exit from roundabout etc.., however many times there was actual change of direction, a actual turn left / right (at a giveaway or change of road) not just curve in the road and there was no spoken prompt - this is bad as a turn could be easily missed, especially if the phone is in the pocket and you're solely relying on voice prompts.

            2. So I'm riding along, and I have 10miles to go to destination, but realised I'm running out of petrol. I see on the app that a petrol station is 0.8miles away - awesome, I click on the icon and app prompts if I ant to add to my route - I say yes. I was expecting it to interject the petrol stop into the current route as a waypoint, but what it did was add the waypoint at the end, after the destination, so now instead of being 0.8miles aways, it expected me to ride for 10miles to my destination, then ride back 10.x miles to the petrol station - I don't see the point of this, surely it should've updated my route and inserted the petrol stop at the most convenient intersection.

            3. map disappeared (see screenshot) don't know why or how, one minute it was there and the next it disappeared. And with no voice navigation (point 1), navigation via MRA was completely useless.
              IMG_5197.png

            4. When the app reads out upcoming waypoints, it does so while the waypoint is so far out - today I was 1.2miles away from the waypoint when it read out the waypoint, and only did that once - is there a way to change the distance at which it read or ability to repeat the instruction closer to the waypoint?

            I would consider these major issues in relying on MRA for routing.

            Thoughts, advice, recommendations welcomed

            Corjan Meijerink Offline
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            Corjan Meijerink
            Developer
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @Rajp Thanks for your message.

            1: Known issue within HERE (out of our power) - hope it's solved soon
            2: Most of the times it will be added correctly, sometimes however it fails and goes to the end. I'll check the algorithm responsible for placing the waypoint.
            3: Working on that! Internally seeing improved behavior in 4.1.3 🙂 Aiming for release end next week.
            4: That cannot be changed. Only if it should announce none / via / all.

            Cheers!

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