New update! (4.0.8)

[Hans van de Ven MR.MRA]

@Hubert-Thoring

I think the BMW cradle supplies more power than the Quadlock or SP connect.

[Edwin_M]

I did some additional testing and I must say that I am dissapointed in the performance of the Quadlock Wireless Charger (with USB connection). It is a very expensive accessory and it is advertised to reach up to 10W with Galaxy devices. (using a good power supply ofcourse).
And yes the power drain of the MRA next app is still on the high side.

In short , the wireless charger does not exceed 6W of power supply in my tests.

Phone is an S24+ .
Case is a Quadlock Mag Case
I have the USB connection version of the Wireless charging head. combined with the Motorcycle - Waterproof 12V To USB Smart Adaptor - Quad Lock Europe - Official Store (quadlockcase.eu)

I did some testing:

1. Checked on phone: Turned of battery protection and checked all battery fast charging options are on. Used an additional quality USB-A to USB-C cable to test (otherwise I'll need to get a lot of covers of of my motorcycle) all fast charge options are enabled
2. Without Quadlock: tested directly on the a charger : outcomes: On an USB-A output max 2,4A => 7 W charging second USB-A output with a QC3.0 => 12,5 W.
   3, Quadlock hardware test: used the same cable wired directly on the 12V Quadlock convertor => 12 W
3. Quadlock hardware test: used the same cable from the 12V quadlock convertor to the wireless head = 6W
4. Quadlock wireless charging head connected to wall charger (as in bullet 2): 1. on QC3.0 port => 6W max via charging head second on normal port max 2,4A resulting in 3,4W max via charging head

response of Quadlock on results:
*Our wireless charging head has advertising on our product page to charge at a maximum of 10W, as yours is charging at 5W it still sitting with the expected performance.

Just to note that you will always have a faster charging speed using a cable as this is not surprising because we can't expect the wireless charge to perform the same.*

The latter is obvious. But losing 6W over the wireless charging head is dissapointing to say the least.
(i found that , with a 100 km roundtour, first edit in Routeplanner online) using it as a route from that to navigate with and using Dark mode, the phone was able to charge. In light mode , the drain is too big at the moment.
Also must state that I am always using Flitsmeister AND youtube music in background as well;

[Flat Twin Therapy]

While it might be true or not that Quadlock does not charge as advertised, it still does charge my phone when navigating using another app like Waze and Google Maps, and MRA is draining the battery.

Also, the charger in my car (USB outlet in dashboard / not quadlock) does charge the battery when navigating with other apps, while the battery drains when using MRA.

(Android)

[Edwin_M]

@Flat-Twin-Therapy agree

[richtea999]

@Edwin_M said in New update! (4.0.8):

...I found that ... using it as a route from that to navigate with and using Dark mode, the phone was able to charge. In light mode , the drain is too big at the moment.

Not to allow HERE off the hook, but Dark mode is a good work-around until they pull their finger out and fix the problem for MRA.

It works for me, and will decrease battery usage on any phone with an OLED / AMOLED display, because they require power to light each pixel (rather than having a screen-wide backlight).

[RetiredWingMan]

@Edwin_M what app are you using to measure/monitor the charging power?

[Edwin_M]

@Doug-Robinson accubattery

[Dikke Wim]

@Flat-Twin-Therapy
Besides the fact that the Quadlock wireless charges is not "strong" enough, some smartphones may stop charging because of a tempertaure that becomes too high as a result of all the calculations MyRoute has to do. See below:

[Jörgen]

Just for information, with my Oukitel outdoor tablet I noticed that changing the USB charging cable it fixed the battery loading problem. The first cable did not supply enough power. First, I thought the 12/5V converter was the issue, but it was the cable.

Anyway, has someone tried to see if Here's own navigation app has the same issue with power consumption?

[Edwin_M]

@Jörgen https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/33259

[Edwin_M]

@Corjan-Meijerink any Update/progress from the meeting with HERE?

[Ton Verkleij]

@Corjan-Meijerink
Hello,

I would like to see the operation of the app completely independant from the smartphone, making it a real standalone app on Android whereas using it on Android auto I do not have to use smartphone at all.

[richtea999]

@Ton-Verkleij said in New update! (4.0.8):

@Corjan-Meijerink
Hello,

I would like to see the operation of the app completely independant from the smartphone, making it a real standalone app on Android whereas using it on Android auto I do not have to use smartphone at all.

I'm pretty sure Android Auto needs a smartphone to work. How were you hoping to install the app? (unless your vehicle's head unit is really a smartphone/tablet in disguise)

[Ton Verkleij]

@richtea999 I will be using the app via Android Auto on the Chigee IO5-lite device.

https://www.chigee.com/collections/aio-5-lite/products/aio5-lite

[Con Hennekens]

@Ton-Verkleij, how is using the app via Android Auto ever going to be smartphone independant...?

[richtea999]

@Ton-Verkleij The Chigee looks good, Ton, but only for certain predefined features. It does have a GPS module, so in theory it might be possible for MRA to supply Chigee with a build that runs standalone, but to be honest, it's a market of 1 versus 20k different models of Android devices.

You're asking for the Chigee to be become a satnav as well as everything else, but all the satnav downsides would come with that, i.e.:

• infrequent updates to functionality, if any
• you're tied in to Chigee's satnav design - no swapping devices
• when it busts you have to buy another one, which will include paying for the new satnav 'module' again.

[Dae 0]

@Con-Hennekens said in New update! (4.0.8):

@Ton-Verkleij, how is using the app via Android Auto ever going to be smartphone independant...?

Maybe Ton is confusing Android Auto with Android Automotive.

My car, a Polestar, runs Android Automotive and doesn’t offer Android Auto. You install the apps on the car, not your phone. Since the car doesn’t so Android Auto, you can’t use MRA unless you’re an iPhone user (the car does support CarPlay).

[Con Hennekens]

@Dae-0, A dedicated Android native head-end for motorbikes would be really great. But if the AIO can install apps, they do a really great job hiding that info on their website ;-). Integration with dashcams is great though!

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Dae-0 interesting! So does Android Automotive include the Play Store? If so, you should still be able to download our app, right?

[Dae 0]

@Corjan-Meijerink said in New update! (4.0.8):

@Dae-0 interesting! So does Android Automotive include the Play Store? If so, you should still be able to download our app, right?

Yes, but no!

You get the Play Store and that’s how you install the app in the car. The app has to be written to support Android Automotive though. I’m lead to believe that it’s not much effort, but many apps aren’t written to support it simply because the developers are unaware of its existence. The naming is too similar to Android Auto, leading to confusion.

My car comes with Google Maps, Spotify, Chrome Browser and a few others installed as standard. The Google maps also integrates into the car so it displays the map on the dashboard (speedo), navigates to a charger if you don’t have enough charge to reach your destination, and ensures the battery is at optimum temperature for max charging speed if you select a charger as a destination or waypoint.