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  • Rob Verhoeff
    Rob Verhoeff last edited by 31 May 2022, 14:56

    First of all I have to say that I'm really going to appreciate the app now. Thanks to this built-in functionality, I no longer have to rely on a bicycle navigation app from a third party. Kudos!

    That being said, I notice that the capacity of my battery drops from 100% to 50% in a bike ride of 15 kilometers and 37 minutes. If you're going to use the app for "line navigation" (let me call it that way), you'll need a good battery or enough spare battery packs to make it to the end of your walking or cycling trip.

    I appreciate it if some attention can be given to this.

    BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
    iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
    Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
    Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

    Nick Carthew 1 Reply Last reply 31 May 2022, 15:32 Reply Quote 0
    • Nick Carthew
      Nick Carthew RouteXperts Instructor @Rob Verhoeff last edited by 31 May 2022, 15:32

      @rob-verhoeff I think you'll find that all Smartphone navigation apps consume battery power.

      Always willing to help if I can.
      Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
      MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
      Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
      Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
      TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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      • Rob Verhoeff
        Rob Verhoeff @Nick Carthew last edited by Rob Verhoeff 31 May 2022, 16:47 31 May 2022, 16:45

        @nick-carthew I agree, but 50% in less then 40 minutes is very much. On the motorbike I constantly use USB. But when putting this app (also) in the market for cyclists and hikers, they must have a bagpack with sufficient batterypacks!
        For example: if I ride the same route with BikeGPX, I can navigate longer on the battery.
        Perhaps there is still some benefit to be gained in the code?

        BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
        iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
        Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
        Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

        Corjan Meijerink Hans van de Ven MR.MRA 2 Replies Last reply 31 May 2022, 17:08 Reply Quote 0
        • Corjan Meijerink
          Corjan Meijerink administrator @Rob Verhoeff last edited by 31 May 2022, 17:07

          @rob-verhoeff Thanks for reporting this! We actually took this into account during the development so we are really interested in way your battery drains. Some quick questions:

          • Is your screen on? This obviously increases the battery usage a lot
          • Are you tracking?
          • When the app asked for access to your motion permissions, did you grant or deny these? If you are not sure, feel free to share a screenshot of the permissions the app has.
          • Are you using iOS or Android?
          • If your phone supports details battery usage statistics, please share these too

          Happy to help!

          Rob Verhoeff 2 Replies Last reply 1 Jun 2022, 06:59 Reply Quote 0
          • Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
            Hans van de Ven MR.MRA Instructor RouteXperts @Rob Verhoeff last edited by 31 May 2022, 17:08

            @rob-verhoeff

            It is already a bit improved, the first test version was worse, 1H23M tracking and the battery went from 100% to 38%.
            The team is working on that.

            Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
            Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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            • Rob Verhoeff
              Rob Verhoeff @Corjan Meijerink last edited by 31 May 2022, 18:17

              @corjan-meijerink said in MyRoute-app Mobile drains battery:

              @rob-verhoeff Thanks for reporting this! We actually took this into account during the development so we are really interested in way your battery drains. Some quick questions:

              • Is your screen on? This obviously increases the battery usage a lot

              Yes, but when navigating (follow the line) the screen must be on. Espacially when tracking and navigate the same time on the bike

              • Are you tracking?

              Yes and navigate at the same time

              • When the app asked for access to your motion permissions, did you grant or deny these? If you are not sure, feel free to share a screenshot of the permissions the app has.

              Also a yes. I granted the permissions

              • Are you using iOS or Android?

              iOS 15.5 on a iPhone 8

              • If your phone supports details battery usage statistics, please share these too

              Max capacity 82%

              Happy to help!

              Thanks! Next week I try the same route on a Android Samsung A8.

              BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
              iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
              Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
              Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

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              • Rob Verhoeff
                Rob Verhoeff @Corjan Meijerink last edited by 1 Jun 2022, 06:59

                @corjan-meijerink I did a comparative test this morning while walking. Both on the iPhone and on the Samsung now only a drop in battery capacity of 14% on both devices (navigation time 45 minutes). That is of course also logical. In contrast to navigating on a vehicle (bicycle, motorcycle or car), as a walker you do not have your screen on all the time.

                BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

                Corjan Meijerink 1 Reply Last reply 1 Jun 2022, 12:36 Reply Quote 0
                • Corjan Meijerink
                  Corjan Meijerink administrator @Rob Verhoeff last edited by 1 Jun 2022, 12:36

                  @rob-verhoeff Cool! Thanks for the info.
                  Must admit that the fact that it is an older iPhone with that remaining capacity while having the screen on is a reasonable cause for the rather quick battery drain.

                  I will however see if there is anything we can change. Out of curiosity: if you use Google maps with your screen on in the same way you use the Mobile app, is battery drain the same?

                  Rob Verhoeff 2 Replies Last reply 7 Jun 2022, 14:57 Reply Quote 0
                  • Rob Verhoeff
                    Rob Verhoeff @Corjan Meijerink last edited by Rob Verhoeff 1 Jun 2022, 14:34 1 Jun 2022, 14:32

                    @corjan-meijerink I will give it a try and wil report back (probably next week). Why does anybody want to use Google maps with an app like MRA? 😅

                    BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                    iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                    Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                    Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

                    Corjan Meijerink Steve Lynch 2 Replies Last reply 4 Jun 2022, 16:50 Reply Quote 1
                    • Corjan Meijerink
                      Corjan Meijerink administrator @Rob Verhoeff last edited by 1 Jun 2022, 17:41

                      @rob-verhoeff Hahaha no clue 😉

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                      • Steve Lynch
                        Steve Lynch @Rob Verhoeff last edited by Steve Lynch 4 Jun 2022, 16:52 4 Jun 2022, 16:50

                        @rob-verhoeff

                        It can be costly to completely discard the use of the Google Maps Overlay, particularly when looking for Hotels.

                        Take the screenshot below where the MRA POI’s only shows one Hotel but Google Maps shows 3 hotels including the one that MRA shows.
                        I think MRA Hotel POI’s are affiliated to Booking.Com only but I may be wrong.

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                        You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

                        Nick Carthew 1 Reply Last reply 4 Jun 2022, 18:34 Reply Quote 0
                        • Nick Carthew
                          Nick Carthew RouteXperts Instructor @Steve Lynch last edited by 4 Jun 2022, 18:34

                          @steve-lynch The POIs in the MRA POI library are supplied by OpenStreetMap. It is planned at some point to create a new library of POIs.

                          Always willing to help if I can.
                          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                          Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                          Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                          TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

                          Steve Lynch 1 Reply Last reply 4 Jun 2022, 18:54 Reply Quote 0
                          • Steve Lynch
                            Steve Lynch @Nick Carthew last edited by Steve Lynch 5 Jun 2022, 08:02 4 Jun 2022, 18:54

                            @nick-carthew
                            Thanks for the clarification Nick.

                            Update.
                            My info above was incorrect regarding Booking.Com, there is the option to book through them if you click the bed icon.

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                            You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                            • Rob Verhoeff
                              Rob Verhoeff @Corjan Meijerink last edited by Rob Verhoeff 7 Jun 2022, 14:59 7 Jun 2022, 14:57

                              @corjan-meijerink said in MyRoute-app Mobile drains battery:

                              I will however see if there is anything we can change. Out of curiosity: if you use Google maps with your screen on in the same way you use the Mobile app, is battery drain the same?

                              Today I used the Samsung Android. Batterydrain is less then the iPhone. Probably due to the slightly older battery from the iPhone!
                              Also navigated with Google maps (who still want to use Google maps after the launch of the new app...🙃) shows a slightly bigger batterydrain on Samsung and iPhone.
                              So if there is some improvement to get in the code, then that would be appriciated. For now I'll start looking for a big powerbank to hook on the iPhone while navigating!

                              BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                              iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                              Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                              Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

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