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  • Steve Jarrellundefined Steve Jarrell

    @Lenny-O Which maps are you using? If you're not already using the OSM maps see if using them solves that issue. I have had some issues with the HERE/Garmin maps so I always double check a route using the OSM maps.

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    @Steve-Jarrell Since I use Garmin for Nav, I am using the HERE map as MRA recommends... Do you use OSM instead? Do you have any issues with Garmin navigation (if you use Garmin) or you just use OSM for verification?
    Thanks for help!

    Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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    • Steve Jarrellundefined Steve Jarrell

      @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master Unfortunately that's not the case with many unpaved roads and the Here maps (at least in my area). Even if they were shown in a slightly different color, once I've made my route the route line covers up the different color that indicates that it is a dirt road, so if I go back to the route in the future I have no idea it goes over an unpaved road just by looking at it.

      Take a look at the screenshots below that illustrate what I'm talking about. Technologically it is possible to show unpaved roads very clearly as routes are being created and afterwards using OpenStreetMaps. Whether that's a feature that's worth investing development time in or not is another question entirely.

      Thanks for your help! I sincerely appreciate it!

      Steve

      Unpaved 1.jpg

      Unpaved 2.jpg

      Unpaved 3.jpg

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      @Steve-Jarrell

      Hi Steve, I have already submitted a proposal to the programmers a while ago to include this in the planner if possible. Something like in the picture. (Red is unpaved)
      63f767be-699f-474e-9eb7-e32d2ce6a280-image.png

      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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        @Steve-Jarrell

        The way OSM displays the layers depends on the stylesheet used when rendering the tiles.
        Different tiles servers that use OSM render there tiles with a different stylesheet.

        Depending on the stylesheet the tiles are rendered different.
        for example the OSM standard map and the opencyclemap use the same data but look different.

        https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Stylesheets

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        • BertMundefined BertM

          @Steve-Jarrell

          The way OSM displays the layers depends on the stylesheet used when rendering the tiles.
          Different tiles servers that use OSM render there tiles with a different stylesheet.

          Depending on the stylesheet the tiles are rendered different.
          for example the OSM standard map and the opencyclemap use the same data but look different.

          https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Stylesheets

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          e6f8158c-8b90-485a-b80d-9e2d8f7b343e-image.png

          Kurviger uses the tileserver from Mapilion with his own stylesheet.

          If you want to play with styles have a look here:
          https://maplibre.org/maputnik/?layer=950344674~17#16.72/51.054925/16.312058

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          • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

            @Steve-Jarrell

            Hi Steve, I have already submitted a proposal to the programmers a while ago to include this in the planner if possible. Something like in the picture. (Red is unpaved)
            63f767be-699f-474e-9eb7-e32d2ce6a280-image.png

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            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA That would be a very, very useful feature! Thanks very much for the update and trying to get this feature implemented!!

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            • BertMundefined BertM

              e6f8158c-8b90-485a-b80d-9e2d8f7b343e-image.png

              Kurviger uses the tileserver from Mapilion with his own stylesheet.

              If you want to play with styles have a look here:
              https://maplibre.org/maputnik/?layer=950344674~17#16.72/51.054925/16.312058

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              @BertM Thanks. That's very interesting!

              Hopefully the MRA guys can figure out how to make it happen! They've already implemented many, many very sophisticated and useful features that I would have never dreamed of so I'm confident they can do this as well if it makes its way to the priority list at some point. 👍

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                I agree completely. It's one of the very, very few features that Kurviger has that's demonstrably better than MRA.

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