Export 1.2 gpx
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@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
I have to agree with all the other users who are saying that we want to actually see the shaping points (Blue Dots) on the XT map.
As we could on the XT with the previous Beta version.
My personal preference is to never use Via Points.
When I create a new route I don’t know at what point I might need a coffee or at what point in time I am going to get hungry.
I like to make those decisions whilst actually riding the route.
What do i do if I want to skip part of the of the route for some reason?
If we can’t see the shaping points how can we skip them?@Steve-Lynch I use viewpoints for coffee stops and lunch stops as this is another way of making sure that everyone in a group gets to the same place and a chance for stragglers to catch up. Having a coffee stop mid morning then lunch etc. means that if someone falls behind, they are never that far behind.
Like you, skipping a shaping point causes a problem. Perhaps there are roadworks or a diversion. If you skip and go to the next point, the GPS will skip the next viapoint (ignoring the viapoint).
To get round this I publish two files for each route with the 2nd one having all the shaping points converted to a viapoint and, to keep them tidy, I rename them with the prefix Z which means that you can find them if needed but they are not mixed in with your normal day to day files.
Another option would be to pass the diversion following the signs then start the route again with the next point being the next viapoint. This would however skip any shaping points that you had planned.
I am of course working with groups of Riders. Had I been solo, I would do as you do and not plan coffee stops etc.
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@Steve-Lynch I use viewpoints for coffee stops and lunch stops as this is another way of making sure that everyone in a group gets to the same place and a chance for stragglers to catch up. Having a coffee stop mid morning then lunch etc. means that if someone falls behind, they are never that far behind.
Like you, skipping a shaping point causes a problem. Perhaps there are roadworks or a diversion. If you skip and go to the next point, the GPS will skip the next viapoint (ignoring the viapoint).
To get round this I publish two files for each route with the 2nd one having all the shaping points converted to a viapoint and, to keep them tidy, I rename them with the prefix Z which means that you can find them if needed but they are not mixed in with your normal day to day files.
Another option would be to pass the diversion following the signs then start the route again with the next point being the next viapoint. This would however skip any shaping points that you had planned.
I am of course working with groups of Riders. Had I been solo, I would do as you do and not plan coffee stops etc.
90% of the time I prefer to travel alone. (Billy No Mates or maybe Victor Meldrew
).
I live in London but my Biker Mates are mostly down the South Coast, from Brighton to Eastbourne, generally I meet up with them only during the summer month’s, except one in particular that I went to School with and often ride to him for a stay over consisting of beer, curry and the obligatory hangover.
Generally this crowd stay around the south coast area and generally one them will lead as they have the better local knowledge of the South Coast. -
The same effect, when exporting direct to BMW Navigator. It's not uasable.
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The same effect, when exporting direct to BMW Navigator. It's not uasable.
Friedhelm@Bepperling
Which Navigator do you have the 5 or the 6?
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@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
Hello Hans,GPX 1.1 can transmit shaping points and via points, Obviously. However, when importing GPX 1.1, only shaping points are transferred. I have to change the shaping points into via points manually. Why should I do this when GPX 1.2 transfers BOTH types. The shaping points are there, you just should make them visible and editable again.
Since yesterday I have a Zumo XT. The import is indeed much faster than with Navigator 6.
Good choice on updating to the Garmin XT.
I have had mine for a while now and in my experience the plethora of recent updates by the MRA Devs have made the XT even better.
Happy days.You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.
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Good choice on updating to the Garmin XT.
I have had mine for a while now and in my experience the plethora of recent updates by the MRA Devs have made the XT even better.
Happy days.@Steve-Lynch said in Export 1.2 gpx:
My Navigator 6 had ghosting. My BMW dealer offers as an exchange only the XT, because the ghosting occurs again sooner or later with a new NAvigator. Because the XT is a new device, I have again a warranty of 2 years.
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Use via-points in your route, otherwise use gpx1.1
@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master I just wanted to agree with other replies in this thread. In the past I would have the formation points (blue dots) and waypoints (flags). I would often put multiple waypoints (flags) that I may stop at and I wanted announced, knowing I would stop at some and skip some depending on how the day went. In the past I would have the one skip button on my Zumo xt and I would skip waypoints (flags) but because of all the formation points (blue dots) the overall navigation would stay intact.
Now when I first load the trip into my Zumo the track looks good and the navigation is accurate even without the blue dot formation points. However the first time I skip something on my route the Zumo recalculates everything without any regard to the formation points that would have been there in the past and I get a direct route to my next flag point rather than the planned route between the flags I had.
I bought the garmin xT specifically because of how MyRoute-app and the xT worked well together, with this change to the beta 1.2 export my Zumo really no longer does the things I need it to do. If you could restore the functionality it would be greatly appreciated.
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@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master I just wanted to agree with other replies in this thread. In the past I would have the formation points (blue dots) and waypoints (flags). I would often put multiple waypoints (flags) that I may stop at and I wanted announced, knowing I would stop at some and skip some depending on how the day went. In the past I would have the one skip button on my Zumo xt and I would skip waypoints (flags) but because of all the formation points (blue dots) the overall navigation would stay intact.
Now when I first load the trip into my Zumo the track looks good and the navigation is accurate even without the blue dot formation points. However the first time I skip something on my route the Zumo recalculates everything without any regard to the formation points that would have been there in the past and I get a direct route to my next flag point rather than the planned route between the flags I had.
I bought the garmin xT specifically because of how MyRoute-app and the xT worked well together, with this change to the beta 1.2 export my Zumo really no longer does the things I need it to do. If you could restore the functionality it would be greatly appreciated.
This was resolved.
Use GPX 1.1 (Route, Track, POI)
That will give you the Via Points and Shaping Points on the XT.You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.
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This was resolved.
Use GPX 1.1 (Route, Track, POI)
That will give you the Via Points and Shaping Points on the XT.Thanks, will change my export choice going forward.
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Hello, I read all the posts carefully and I am very grateful for the good tips.
I come to the conclusion that I have to choose the export variant «Garmin (GPX 1.1)».
I tested it and saw that I see shapingpoints and viapoints on the Zumo XT, as desired. If I choose the export variant Garmin Zumo (GPX 1.2), I see only the viapoints.
For testing, I saved the GPX 1.2 variant and opened it in Basecamp. After a recalculation of the route BC tinkers a completely wrong route - and exactly that happens in the device.
With the GPX 1.1 variant, shaping points and viapoints are present and the route follows the track exactly.
What advantage does the GPX 1.2 variant have? I see only one serious disadvantage, namely the lack of transmission and visibility of the shaping points. -
Hello, I read all the posts carefully and I am very grateful for the good tips.
I come to the conclusion that I have to choose the export variant «Garmin (GPX 1.1)».
I tested it and saw that I see shapingpoints and viapoints on the Zumo XT, as desired. If I choose the export variant Garmin Zumo (GPX 1.2), I see only the viapoints.
For testing, I saved the GPX 1.2 variant and opened it in Basecamp. After a recalculation of the route BC tinkers a completely wrong route - and exactly that happens in the device.
With the GPX 1.1 variant, shaping points and viapoints are present and the route follows the track exactly.
What advantage does the GPX 1.2 variant have? I see only one serious disadvantage, namely the lack of transmission and visibility of the shaping points.Hello Robert,
Gpx 1.2 is a so called inflated route. If you use the 1.2 file turn off recalculation in your Zumo.
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Thanks for the quick reply Hans! Aha, that is a good insight. So I can assume that the route was stored correctly in the device after the export with GMX 1.2.
I will test both possibilities (1.1 and 1.2) and report. -
Thanks for the quick reply Hans! Aha, that is a good insight. So I can assume that the route was stored correctly in the device after the export with GMX 1.2.
I will test both possibilities (1.1 and 1.2) and report.@robert-bürgisser
Yes, you can assume that both files, gpx 1.1 and gpx 1.2, work correctly in the new Zumo. Make sure you transfer the files with the connector or save them as from MRA to your Zumo.
