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How to export GPX files to Zumo XT without recalculation

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  • Travellexxie
    Travellexxie
    Travellexxie
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    GPX1.2 recalculation set to off.

    Met andere apps maak je een route, met MRA componeer je een route!

    Ducati Monster 1200 met Garmin Zümo XT
    Fiat 124 Spider/Camper Dethleffs met Navigation-App op Samsung Tab Active4 Pro
    MRA Lifetime Gold

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    • Mzokk
      Mzokk
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      Or lots and lots of shaping points to pin the route if you want to use gpx 1.1

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      • Mzokk Mzokk

        Or lots and lots of shaping points to pin the route if you want to use gpx 1.1

        Travellexxie
        Travellexxie
        Travellexxie
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        wrote on last edited by
        #4

        @Mzokk exactly, but I prefer in this case the 1.2 and make the track visible.

        Met andere apps maak je een route, met MRA componeer je een route!

        Ducati Monster 1200 met Garmin Zümo XT
        Fiat 124 Spider/Camper Dethleffs met Navigation-App op Samsung Tab Active4 Pro
        MRA Lifetime Gold

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        • Will Brooks
          Will Brooks
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          All valid ways mentioned above. The other way (more manual and user dependent!) is to have the track visible on the screen of the XT as well as the turn by turn route loaded and when the route and track don't match, ignore the route and follow the track!

          I generally use shaping points where the XT logic could use a different road to help "force" it and that with the combination of having the track overlayed on the map means I can ride the route I originally planned but also gives my flexibility if I want to divert due to accidents/road closures etc.

          As always it's a personal preference but this works for my usage of both MRA and the XT, others will have different views

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          • Will Brooks Will Brooks

            All valid ways mentioned above. The other way (more manual and user dependent!) is to have the track visible on the screen of the XT as well as the turn by turn route loaded and when the route and track don't match, ignore the route and follow the track!

            I generally use shaping points where the XT logic could use a different road to help "force" it and that with the combination of having the track overlayed on the map means I can ride the route I originally planned but also gives my flexibility if I want to divert due to accidents/road closures etc.

            As always it's a personal preference but this works for my usage of both MRA and the XT, others will have different views

            Travellexxie
            Travellexxie
            Travellexxie
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            wrote last edited by
            #6

            @Will-Brooks that's why I wrote: "make the track visible"

            Met andere apps maak je een route, met MRA componeer je een route!

            Ducati Monster 1200 met Garmin Zümo XT
            Fiat 124 Spider/Camper Dethleffs met Navigation-App op Samsung Tab Active4 Pro
            MRA Lifetime Gold

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            • HABVEN aka MrMRA
              HABVEN aka MrMRA
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              wrote last edited by HABVEN aka MrMRA
              #7

              A route is always calculated; by placing the waypoints correctly and using a sufficient number of them, the route will match the planned route exactly—provided the correct map is used and the planner's settings align with those of the XT. It makes no difference which GPX format you use for the Zumo—GPX 1.1 (the standard) or GPX 1.2 (MRA's proprietary version). GPX 1.2 is transmitted as a route track with waypoints, so you need to include a certain number of waypoints in your route (up to a maximum of 28). If you do not wish to use waypoints, use GPX 1.1 instead.
              And as previously mentioned: disable recalculation for planned routes, make the track visible, ensure you are positioned at or near the route's starting point, and make sure your Zumo has a connection to at least three satellites.
              It really isn't that difficult...

              BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
              Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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              • HABVEN aka MrMRA HABVEN aka MrMRA

                A route is always calculated; by placing the waypoints correctly and using a sufficient number of them, the route will match the planned route exactly—provided the correct map is used and the planner's settings align with those of the XT. It makes no difference which GPX format you use for the Zumo—GPX 1.1 (the standard) or GPX 1.2 (MRA's proprietary version). GPX 1.2 is transmitted as a route track with waypoints, so you need to include a certain number of waypoints in your route (up to a maximum of 28). If you do not wish to use waypoints, use GPX 1.1 instead.
                And as previously mentioned: disable recalculation for planned routes, make the track visible, ensure you are positioned at or near the route's starting point, and make sure your Zumo has a connection to at least three satellites.
                It really isn't that difficult...

                Travellexxie
                Travellexxie
                Travellexxie
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                wrote last edited by
                #8

                @HABVEN-aka-MrMRA not 50 viapoints? 🤣🙈

                Met andere apps maak je een route, met MRA componeer je een route!

                Ducati Monster 1200 met Garmin Zümo XT
                Fiat 124 Spider/Camper Dethleffs met Navigation-App op Samsung Tab Active4 Pro
                MRA Lifetime Gold

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                • HABVEN aka MrMRA HABVEN aka MrMRA

                  A route is always calculated; by placing the waypoints correctly and using a sufficient number of them, the route will match the planned route exactly—provided the correct map is used and the planner's settings align with those of the XT. It makes no difference which GPX format you use for the Zumo—GPX 1.1 (the standard) or GPX 1.2 (MRA's proprietary version). GPX 1.2 is transmitted as a route track with waypoints, so you need to include a certain number of waypoints in your route (up to a maximum of 28). If you do not wish to use waypoints, use GPX 1.1 instead.
                  And as previously mentioned: disable recalculation for planned routes, make the track visible, ensure you are positioned at or near the route's starting point, and make sure your Zumo has a connection to at least three satellites.
                  It really isn't that difficult...

                  John S Parry
                  John S Parry
                  John S Parry
                  wrote last edited by John S Parry
                  #9

                  @HABVEN-aka-MrMRA said:

                  A route is always calculated; by placing the waypoints correctly and using a sufficient number of them, the route will match the planned route exactly—provided the correct map is used and the planner's settings align with those of the XT.

                  ........

                  It really isn't that difficult....

                  Thank you. For some reason, many believe that route recalculation can somehow be "turned off" when a GPX is imported into the Garmin. You can control recalculations in off-route scenarios, but there is no way for the Garmin to initially accept the GPX and automatically store it as created. Using MRA 1.2 is the closest GPX format to accomplishing no recalculation on the Garmin side, but re-calculation still does take place.

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                  • Travellexxie Travellexxie

                    @HABVEN-aka-MrMRA not 50 viapoints? 🤣🙈

                    HABVEN aka MrMRA
                    HABVEN aka MrMRA
                    HABVEN aka MrMRA
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                    @Travellexxie said:

                    @HABVEN-aka-MrMRA not 50 viapoints? 🤣🙈

                    That is for the BMW ConnectedRide Navigator 🙄 😇

                    BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
                    Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                    • HABVEN aka MrMRA HABVEN aka MrMRA

                      A route is always calculated; by placing the waypoints correctly and using a sufficient number of them, the route will match the planned route exactly—provided the correct map is used and the planner's settings align with those of the XT. It makes no difference which GPX format you use for the Zumo—GPX 1.1 (the standard) or GPX 1.2 (MRA's proprietary version). GPX 1.2 is transmitted as a route track with waypoints, so you need to include a certain number of waypoints in your route (up to a maximum of 28). If you do not wish to use waypoints, use GPX 1.1 instead.
                      And as previously mentioned: disable recalculation for planned routes, make the track visible, ensure you are positioned at or near the route's starting point, and make sure your Zumo has a connection to at least three satellites.
                      It really isn't that difficult...

                      Andy Beviere
                      Andy Beviere
                      Andy Beviere
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                      #11

                      @HABVEN-aka-MrMRA with the greatest of respect that is utter rubbish which is why so many people have been asking the same question for years… and it is literally years now, I can’t believe people are still parting with in excess of £500 for a device and as for that Tread app…😂😂😂

                      I have had pretty much every sat nav going on my motorcycle journey (forgive the pun) and its only DMD that doesn’t mess with the ‘planned route’ this is an important distinction to make, I’m talking about sitting down and planning a cracking ride for example in Spain not using the device to go from AtoB… I plan on here and export to DMD and not once have I had an issue, plan on here and export to the Zumo XT2 and nothing but issues, I could go and on with other examples... couple below for you.

                      Example: Last year we were having a cracking ride in the Saint Mere Eglis area of France, using Zumo XT2’s next thing we know we’re on a motorway for an hour and a half as the route had been changed, we should’ve been following the ‘planned’ coast road. Later in the year I had the same issues on a trip with my wife.

                      Regards,

                      Andy.

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                      • Andy Beviere Andy Beviere

                        @HABVEN-aka-MrMRA with the greatest of respect that is utter rubbish which is why so many people have been asking the same question for years… and it is literally years now, I can’t believe people are still parting with in excess of £500 for a device and as for that Tread app…😂😂😂

                        I have had pretty much every sat nav going on my motorcycle journey (forgive the pun) and its only DMD that doesn’t mess with the ‘planned route’ this is an important distinction to make, I’m talking about sitting down and planning a cracking ride for example in Spain not using the device to go from AtoB… I plan on here and export to DMD and not once have I had an issue, plan on here and export to the Zumo XT2 and nothing but issues, I could go and on with other examples... couple below for you.

                        Example: Last year we were having a cracking ride in the Saint Mere Eglis area of France, using Zumo XT2’s next thing we know we’re on a motorway for an hour and a half as the route had been changed, we should’ve been following the ‘planned’ coast road. Later in the year I had the same issues on a trip with my wife.

                        Regards,

                        Andy.

                        Stevedo 6 0
                        Stevedo 6 0
                        Stevedo 6 0
                        wrote last edited by
                        #12

                        @Andy-Beviere With all due respect, I suggest you learn how to use the Garmin to the best of its abilities. Yes, there is a learning curve, I suggest zumoforums.co.uk. I struggled with my Garmin devices, like you, for a number of years. Today, I have no issues because I understand how to get the most out of it.

                        I have Gold and lifetime licenses here for MRA online planner and MRA Navigation app. I thoroughly recommend the planner but rarely use the navigation app and discourage others from using it too (let's see if V6.0 improves things). Garmin is a much better navigation device than MRA on a phone IMHO.

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                        • Parantapa
                          Parantapa
                          Parantapa
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                          Export the route in MRA as a .gpx 1.2 file (route, track, POI). On the Zumo XT, disable route recalculation and set the routing option to ‘Shortest time’. The Zumo XT should not be synchronised with the Garmin Cloud, as this causes many problems with routes that were not created using Garmin Explore. On the Zumo XT, install the latest maps and display the track in a different colour, e.g. red. Then start the route. Where the route deviates from the track, the track will be visible in red. Then follow the red line instead of the route. With this method, there are rarely any deviations from the route planned in MRA.
                          I hope that was reasonably clear. I have to have this translated as I only speak German.

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                          • Andy Beviere Andy Beviere

                            @HABVEN-aka-MrMRA with the greatest of respect that is utter rubbish which is why so many people have been asking the same question for years… and it is literally years now, I can’t believe people are still parting with in excess of £500 for a device and as for that Tread app…😂😂😂

                            I have had pretty much every sat nav going on my motorcycle journey (forgive the pun) and its only DMD that doesn’t mess with the ‘planned route’ this is an important distinction to make, I’m talking about sitting down and planning a cracking ride for example in Spain not using the device to go from AtoB… I plan on here and export to DMD and not once have I had an issue, plan on here and export to the Zumo XT2 and nothing but issues, I could go and on with other examples... couple below for you.

                            Example: Last year we were having a cracking ride in the Saint Mere Eglis area of France, using Zumo XT2’s next thing we know we’re on a motorway for an hour and a half as the route had been changed, we should’ve been following the ‘planned’ coast road. Later in the year I had the same issues on a trip with my wife.

                            Regards,

                            Andy.

                            Parantapa
                            Parantapa
                            Parantapa
                            wrote last edited by Parantapa
                            #14

                            @Andy-Beviere sagte:

                            plan on here and export to the Zumo XT2 and nothing but issues, I could go and on with other examples...

                            Regards,

                            Andy.

                            These problems arise almost exclusively as a result of synchronisation with the cloud. The route must not be uploaded to the cloud, as this will alter it significantly.
                            If you upload the route directly to the Zumo XT 2 or 3 and then synchronise it with the cloud, it will almost always remain unchanged.
                            In other words, do not upload it to the Tread app and then synchronise it with the cloud from there!
                            With the XT 3, Garmin has made things even worse than with the XT 2.

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