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  • silberfuchs67 silberfuchs67

    Hi @corjan-meijerink How to handle the new Beta Login Credentials? Is it possible to use the same Email Adress with a new password?

    Corjan Meijerink
    Corjan Meijerink
    Corjan Meijerink
    Developer
    wrote last edited by
    #46

    @silberfuchs67 yes!

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    • Tenmill 0
      Tenmill 0
      Tenmill 0
      wrote last edited by
      #47

      Are you able to say what the price will be for those of us that hold off until launch?

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      • Hubert Thoring Hubert Thoring

        Hello MRA Team,

        I feel cheated as a user of "MRA Routenplaner Gold" in Lifetime as a user. I don't understand the announcements either, why I once paid for Lifetime to find out that "MRA Route Planner Gold" is now probably at the end of the development and the "New Name = MEA Route Planner Next" of the update to Web 2.0 or even before was now asked for money what I want to avoid with the Lifetime Account "MRA Route Planner Gold".

        The "MRA Route Planner Next" is an update for me and included in the MRA Route Planner Gold Lifetime license, so it was also with the "MRA Navigation" on MRA Navigation Next" in Lifetime.

        I ask for clarification of the content on the web site and the procedure with regard to the purchased lifetime licenses ..

        • MRA Route Planner Gold 12.08.2021 incl. further updates...

        • MRA Navigation 26.11.2021 incl. later update to MRA Navigation Next

        Best regards

        Hubert Thoring

        —-###—-

        Hallo MRA Team,

        ich fühle mich als User von „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ in Lifetime als User getäuscht. Ich verstehe die Ankündigungen so auch nicht, warum habe ich mal für Lifetime bezahlt um jetzt zu erfahren das „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ jetzt wohl am Ende der Entwicklung ist und der „Neue Name = MRA Routenplaner Next“ des Update auf Web 2.0 oder wies auch immer schon mal angekündigt war jetzt nach Geld verlangt was ich mit dem Lifetime Konto „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ vermeiden will.

        Der „MRA Routenplaner Next“ ist für mich ein Update und in der MRA Routenplaner Gold Lifetime Lizenz enthalten, so war es auch bei der „MRA Navigation“ auf MRA Navigation Next“ im Lifetime.

        Ich bitte um Klarstellung der Inhalte auf der Web Seite und der Vorgehensweise mit Blick auf die gekauften Lifetime Lizenzen ..

        • MRA Routenplaner Gold 12.08.2021 inkl. weiterer Updates…

        • MRA Navigation 26.11.2021 inkl. Späterem Update auf MRA Navigation Next

        Mit freundlichen Grüßen
        Hubert Thoring

        Stevedo 6 0
        Stevedo 6 0
        Stevedo 6 0
        wrote last edited by
        #48

        @Hubert-Thoring

        Hi Hubert, I've had time to sleep on this and look at it again this morning. You have captured exactly how I feel about these latest announcements. I paid for Planner and Navigation Lifetime licenses in November 2025. Seems a very short lifetime to now be asking for more money. MRA will argue that I don't have to pay anything but then I don't get new features that are implied by a lifetime license.

        Also, I find it unacceptable for MRA to ask existing customers to pay to test Beta software, really!!!!

        As others have expressed, I think this whole thing has been communicated extremely poorly as evidenced by the number of questions and declarations of confusion.

        To me, this feels like a company that was too successful in selling lifetime licenses. As a result, recurring and new customer revenues are not sufficient, hence the current efforts to extract more money from existing lifetime license holders. All IMHO.

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        • Hubert Thoring Hubert Thoring

          Hello MRA Team,

          I feel cheated as a user of "MRA Routenplaner Gold" in Lifetime as a user. I don't understand the announcements either, why I once paid for Lifetime to find out that "MRA Route Planner Gold" is now probably at the end of the development and the "New Name = MEA Route Planner Next" of the update to Web 2.0 or even before was now asked for money what I want to avoid with the Lifetime Account "MRA Route Planner Gold".

          The "MRA Route Planner Next" is an update for me and included in the MRA Route Planner Gold Lifetime license, so it was also with the "MRA Navigation" on MRA Navigation Next" in Lifetime.

          I ask for clarification of the content on the web site and the procedure with regard to the purchased lifetime licenses ..

          • MRA Route Planner Gold 12.08.2021 incl. further updates...

          • MRA Navigation 26.11.2021 incl. later update to MRA Navigation Next

          Best regards

          Hubert Thoring

          —-###—-

          Hallo MRA Team,

          ich fühle mich als User von „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ in Lifetime als User getäuscht. Ich verstehe die Ankündigungen so auch nicht, warum habe ich mal für Lifetime bezahlt um jetzt zu erfahren das „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ jetzt wohl am Ende der Entwicklung ist und der „Neue Name = MRA Routenplaner Next“ des Update auf Web 2.0 oder wies auch immer schon mal angekündigt war jetzt nach Geld verlangt was ich mit dem Lifetime Konto „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ vermeiden will.

          Der „MRA Routenplaner Next“ ist für mich ein Update und in der MRA Routenplaner Gold Lifetime Lizenz enthalten, so war es auch bei der „MRA Navigation“ auf MRA Navigation Next“ im Lifetime.

          Ich bitte um Klarstellung der Inhalte auf der Web Seite und der Vorgehensweise mit Blick auf die gekauften Lifetime Lizenzen ..

          • MRA Routenplaner Gold 12.08.2021 inkl. weiterer Updates…

          • MRA Navigation 26.11.2021 inkl. Späterem Update auf MRA Navigation Next

          Mit freundlichen Grüßen
          Hubert Thoring

          Marinus van Deudekom
          Marinus van Deudekom
          Marinus van Deudekom
          RouteXpert
          wrote last edited by
          #49

          @Hubert-Thoring Hubert just look at the explanation on the site and all of the FAQ's you'll find all the answers there. You dont have to buy anything and you'll have what you've paid for. With the upgrade to the beta planner you'll have have some extra's.
          Not to worry

          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
          Honda Silverwing GL 650
          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
          Garmin XT sold
          Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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          • Marinus van Deudekom Marinus van Deudekom

            @Hubert-Thoring Hubert just look at the explanation on the site and all of the FAQ's you'll find all the answers there. You dont have to buy anything and you'll have what you've paid for. With the upgrade to the beta planner you'll have have some extra's.
            Not to worry

            Dave J 0
            Dave J 0
            Dave J 0
            Valued contributor
            wrote last edited by
            #50

            @Marinus-van-Deudekom Agree. People need to read the explanations! I took advantage of the Beta Navigation Next Lifetime early purchase and that has worked really well. I will do the same for the new Planner which is a cheap price for some of the new features whilst keeping my current planner features on a new platform; moreover, I get a chance to test and have a say on future builds. Most developers, and not just MRA, are charging a premium for integrated AI features so I did not expect that new feature to be included - AI platform providers are charging for services like these.

            MRA, I feel, is being very fair for early access to a new set of features without undermining existing lifetime Gold customers who will still move to the new platform with the features they currently have.

            Kind Regards. Help where I can.
            Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
            iPhone 18 Pro
            CHIGEE AIO-6 LTE
            Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
            Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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            • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

              Having Routeplanner Gold allows you to keep using all the features you currently have.

              MRA Routeplanner Next will have many new features. Those are new subscriptions.
              Buying pre-sale gives lifetime access to those with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next (that stays as it is).

              Buying the €199 pre-sale is only relevant if you don’t have Gold lifetime now. Then you immediately get that too. The €49 is for:

              • Early access
              • Private forum group where you help decide what we build
              • Lifetime access to the new subscriptions with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next
              • A good night sleep as you support a hard working small company
              • Badge on your profile

              That’s it 🙂

              You loose nothing. Do not worry.
              This is a fun announcement that a lot of awesome new stuff is coming.

              Not paying anything? That’s fine!
              You keep the features you have, no extra’s and have to wait to February to use it.

              Christian Feurstein
              Christian Feurstein
              Christian Feurstein
              wrote last edited by
              #51

              @Corjan-Meijerink said:

              Having Routeplanner Gold allows you to keep using all the features you currently have.

              MRA Routeplanner Next will have many new features. Those are new subscriptions.
              Buying pre-sale gives lifetime access to those with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next (that stays as it is).

              Buying the €199 pre-sale is only relevant if you don’t have Gold lifetime now. Then you immediately get that too. The €49 is for:

              • Early access
              • Private forum group where you help decide what we build
              • Lifetime access to the new subscriptions with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next
              • A good night sleep as you support a hard working small company
              • Badge on your profile

              That’s it 🙂

              You loose nothing. Do not worry.
              This is a fun announcement that a lot of awesome new stuff is coming.

              Not paying anything? That’s fine!
              You keep the features you have, no extra’s and have to wait to February to use it.

              Sorry, but it is still confusing imho.
              You are telling us:

              • Lifetime access to the new subscriptions with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next

              Which are those new subscribtions in detail for a MRA Routeplanner Gold Lifetime / Navigation Next Lifetime member? In other words, as a MRA Routeplanner Gold Lifetime member / Navigation Next Lifetime do I get which new subscriptions/functions when buying the €49 offer?
              The commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner is even with the €49 package not included, so what is the difference in funcionality then between buying and not buying the €49 package? Just early access, private forum, badge and donating???

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              • Christian Feurstein Christian Feurstein

                @Corjan-Meijerink said:

                Having Routeplanner Gold allows you to keep using all the features you currently have.

                MRA Routeplanner Next will have many new features. Those are new subscriptions.
                Buying pre-sale gives lifetime access to those with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next (that stays as it is).

                Buying the €199 pre-sale is only relevant if you don’t have Gold lifetime now. Then you immediately get that too. The €49 is for:

                • Early access
                • Private forum group where you help decide what we build
                • Lifetime access to the new subscriptions with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next
                • A good night sleep as you support a hard working small company
                • Badge on your profile

                That’s it 🙂

                You loose nothing. Do not worry.
                This is a fun announcement that a lot of awesome new stuff is coming.

                Not paying anything? That’s fine!
                You keep the features you have, no extra’s and have to wait to February to use it.

                Sorry, but it is still confusing imho.
                You are telling us:

                • Lifetime access to the new subscriptions with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next

                Which are those new subscribtions in detail for a MRA Routeplanner Gold Lifetime / Navigation Next Lifetime member? In other words, as a MRA Routeplanner Gold Lifetime member / Navigation Next Lifetime do I get which new subscriptions/functions when buying the €49 offer?
                The commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner is even with the €49 package not included, so what is the difference in funcionality then between buying and not buying the €49 package? Just early access, private forum, badge and donating???

                Corjan Meijerink
                Corjan Meijerink
                Corjan Meijerink
                Developer
                wrote last edited by
                #52

                @Christian-Feurstein read this: https://beta.myrouteapp.com/presale#existing-customers

                It says exactly what happens and when

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                • Dikke Wim
                  Dikke Wim
                  Dikke Wim
                  Valued contributor
                  wrote last edited by
                  #53

                  I am a MRA Routeplanner Gold Lifetime and a
                  Navigation Next Lifetime member and I'm trying to buy beta access for €49.
                  Unfortunately, I cannot login with my regular inlog and password. Do I have to register again?

                  BMW R1300 GS, BMW Connect Ride Next navigator; Quad Lock with Samsung Galaxy Ultra, iPad Pro (iPadOS 18.0 bèta version) MacBook Pro (MacOS Sequoia 15.2 bèta version), iMac (MacOS Monterey 12.7.6)

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                  • Dikke Wim Dikke Wim

                    I am a MRA Routeplanner Gold Lifetime and a
                    Navigation Next Lifetime member and I'm trying to buy beta access for €49.
                    Unfortunately, I cannot login with my regular inlog and password. Do I have to register again?

                    Marinus van Deudekom
                    Marinus van Deudekom
                    Marinus van Deudekom
                    RouteXpert
                    wrote last edited by
                    #54

                    @Dikke-Wim Yes Wim it says Create a new account and afterwards submit your original account

                    Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                    Honda Silverwing GL 650
                    DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                    Garmin XT sold
                    Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                    • silberfuchs67
                      silberfuchs67
                      silberfuchs67
                      wrote last edited by silberfuchs67
                      #55

                      @dikke-wim You have to wait until the Beta Access starts and then create a new login. That’s my understanding.

                      If you think everything is under control you are driving to slow!

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                      • Karel76
                        Karel76
                        Karel76
                        wrote last edited by Karel76
                        #56

                        https://beta.myrouteapp.com/features

                        Well, this table is a mess, just like the whole product presentation. The entire offer must have been generated by AI, because even after an all-day explanation, a lot of people still don't understand it.

                        Why doesn't the table simply compare the plans—Free, Silver, Gold, new NEXT, AI—with a clear breakdown of what's included in each membership underneath, like other providers of similar products do? That would make it clear. And ideally, each feature could include a link explaining what value it actually brings.

                        For example:

                        image.jpeg

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                        • Karel76 Karel76

                          https://beta.myrouteapp.com/features

                          Well, this table is a mess, just like the whole product presentation. The entire offer must have been generated by AI, because even after an all-day explanation, a lot of people still don't understand it.

                          Why doesn't the table simply compare the plans—Free, Silver, Gold, new NEXT, AI—with a clear breakdown of what's included in each membership underneath, like other providers of similar products do? That would make it clear. And ideally, each feature could include a link explaining what value it actually brings.

                          For example:

                          image.jpeg

                          Marinus van Deudekom
                          Marinus van Deudekom
                          Marinus van Deudekom
                          RouteXpert
                          wrote last edited by
                          #57

                          @Karel76 it does, look a bit closer

                          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                          Honda Silverwing GL 650
                          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                          Garmin XT sold
                          Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                          • Stevedo 6 0 Stevedo 6 0

                            @Hubert-Thoring

                            Hi Hubert, I've had time to sleep on this and look at it again this morning. You have captured exactly how I feel about these latest announcements. I paid for Planner and Navigation Lifetime licenses in November 2025. Seems a very short lifetime to now be asking for more money. MRA will argue that I don't have to pay anything but then I don't get new features that are implied by a lifetime license.

                            Also, I find it unacceptable for MRA to ask existing customers to pay to test Beta software, really!!!!

                            As others have expressed, I think this whole thing has been communicated extremely poorly as evidenced by the number of questions and declarations of confusion.

                            To me, this feels like a company that was too successful in selling lifetime licenses. As a result, recurring and new customer revenues are not sufficient, hence the current efforts to extract more money from existing lifetime license holders. All IMHO.

                            John S Parry
                            John S Parry
                            John S Parry
                            wrote last edited by
                            #58

                            @Stevedo-6-0 said:

                            I paid for Planner and Navigation Lifetime licenses in November 2025. Seems a very short lifetime to now be asking for more money. MRA will argue that I don't have to pay anything but then I don't get new features that are implied by a lifetime license.

                            As this all sinks in, your point above is what bothers me most. It was the new features "implication" that was implied by the MRA lifetime license. There was never a disclaimer that "lifetime" meant only functionality offered at the time of purchase. It's similar to the one‑time "lifetime" license purchase of Microsoft Office Products, except that they state upfront that no new feature updates will be provided. I like that up-front disclosure.

                            The current MRA Routeplanner is a fantastic product. It's the best desktop route planner on the market. I'll continue to use it even if I choose not to purchase new features. Still.....

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                            • John S Parry John S Parry

                              @Stevedo-6-0 said:

                              I paid for Planner and Navigation Lifetime licenses in November 2025. Seems a very short lifetime to now be asking for more money. MRA will argue that I don't have to pay anything but then I don't get new features that are implied by a lifetime license.

                              As this all sinks in, your point above is what bothers me most. It was the new features "implication" that was implied by the MRA lifetime license. There was never a disclaimer that "lifetime" meant only functionality offered at the time of purchase. It's similar to the one‑time "lifetime" license purchase of Microsoft Office Products, except that they state upfront that no new feature updates will be provided. I like that up-front disclosure.

                              The current MRA Routeplanner is a fantastic product. It's the best desktop route planner on the market. I'll continue to use it even if I choose not to purchase new features. Still.....

                              MotoCon
                              MotoCon
                              MotoCon
                              Alpha tester
                              wrote last edited by
                              #59

                              @John-S-Parry said:

                              It's similar to the one‑time "lifetime" license purchase of Microsoft Office Products, except that they state upfront that no new feature updates will be provided. I like that up-front disclosure.

                              Except Microsoft tends to deprecates older versions you once paid lifetime for almost every day without free upgrade to the new version. Exactly what MRA does NOT do...

                              The current MRA Routeplanner is a fantastic product. It's the best desktop route planner on the market. I'll continue to use it even if I choose not to purchase new features.

                              You do not need to stick to the current planner, your license is as as valid for the new planner as it is for the old one.

                              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                              Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                              • Karel76 Karel76

                                https://beta.myrouteapp.com/features

                                Well, this table is a mess, just like the whole product presentation. The entire offer must have been generated by AI, because even after an all-day explanation, a lot of people still don't understand it.

                                Why doesn't the table simply compare the plans—Free, Silver, Gold, new NEXT, AI—with a clear breakdown of what's included in each membership underneath, like other providers of similar products do? That would make it clear. And ideally, each feature could include a link explaining what value it actually brings.

                                For example:

                                image.jpeg

                                MotoCon
                                MotoCon
                                MotoCon
                                Alpha tester
                                wrote last edited by
                                #60

                                @Karel76 said:

                                Why doesn't the table simply compare the plans—Free, Silver, Gold, new NEXT, AI—with a clear breakdown of what's included in each membership underneath

                                Sigh...

                                image.jpeg

                                Pay attention the the link below the chart saying: "Compare ALL functions" too.

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                                • Tenmill 0
                                  Tenmill 0
                                  Tenmill 0
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                                  #61

                                  I think the frustration here is that these new features, whilst useful, feel incremental and therefore like they should be included with existing lifetime users.
                                  Referencing the previous experience of navigation next is different as that was an entirely different product.
                                  I bought lifetime in August this year and being asked for another £42 a month later for incremental upgrades leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.
                                  Yes I know that I’ll continue to have access to what I’d original paid for but it still feels like I paid a not insubstantial amount of money for an already dated product.

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                                  • MotoCon MotoCon

                                    @John-S-Parry said:

                                    It's similar to the one‑time "lifetime" license purchase of Microsoft Office Products, except that they state upfront that no new feature updates will be provided. I like that up-front disclosure.

                                    Except Microsoft tends to deprecates older versions you once paid lifetime for almost every day without free upgrade to the new version. Exactly what MRA does NOT do...

                                    The current MRA Routeplanner is a fantastic product. It's the best desktop route planner on the market. I'll continue to use it even if I choose not to purchase new features.

                                    You do not need to stick to the current planner, your license is as as valid for the new planner as it is for the old one.

                                    John S Parry
                                    John S Parry
                                    John S Parry
                                    wrote last edited by John S Parry
                                    #62

                                    @Con-Hennekens said:

                                    Except Microsoft tends to deprecates older versions you once paid lifetime for almost every day without free upgrade to the new version. Exactly what MRA does NOT do..

                                    I'm sorry -- I don't understand exactly what you're saying here.

                                    What Microsoft does is 100% clear. I can (A) buy lifetime point-in-time functionality in a specific version, or (B) I can buy a subscription to automatically stay functionally up to date. All of this is disclosed up front in no uncertain terms.

                                    With my MRA Gold lifetime, I just found out I that what I purchased was forever point-in-time functionality. It doesn't matter that effective February 2027, it will be wrapped in a different interface. The "upgrade to the new version" locks me out of any functional improvements. I'd have no problem if this had been disclosed up front.

                                    It's the non-disclosure that feels wrong. I hope this makes sense.

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                                    • Tenmill 0 Tenmill 0

                                      I think the frustration here is that these new features, whilst useful, feel incremental and therefore like they should be included with existing lifetime users.
                                      Referencing the previous experience of navigation next is different as that was an entirely different product.
                                      I bought lifetime in August this year and being asked for another £42 a month later for incremental upgrades leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.
                                      Yes I know that I’ll continue to have access to what I’d original paid for but it still feels like I paid a not insubstantial amount of money for an already dated product.

                                      MotoCon
                                      MotoCon
                                      MotoCon
                                      Alpha tester
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #63

                                      @Tenmill-0 said:

                                      I bought lifetime in August this year and being asked for another £42 a month later for incremental upgrades leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.

                                      Obviously it's your own opinion that these new features are incremental. You don't mis out on anything by not purchasing them. That being said, I sympathize with the unlucky moment of purchasing your Gold subscription.

                                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                      Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                                      • John S Parry John S Parry

                                        @Con-Hennekens said:

                                        Except Microsoft tends to deprecates older versions you once paid lifetime for almost every day without free upgrade to the new version. Exactly what MRA does NOT do..

                                        I'm sorry -- I don't understand exactly what you're saying here.

                                        What Microsoft does is 100% clear. I can (A) buy lifetime point-in-time functionality in a specific version, or (B) I can buy a subscription to automatically stay functionally up to date. All of this is disclosed up front in no uncertain terms.

                                        With my MRA Gold lifetime, I just found out I that what I purchased was forever point-in-time functionality. It doesn't matter that effective February 2027, it will be wrapped in a different interface. The "upgrade to the new version" locks me out of any functional improvements. I'd have no problem if this had been disclosed up front.

                                        It's the non-disclosure that feels wrong. I hope this makes sense.

                                        MotoCon
                                        MotoCon
                                        MotoCon
                                        Alpha tester
                                        wrote last edited by MotoCon
                                        #64

                                        @John-S-Parry, I don't feel like turning this into an MS bash, but MS has MANY products with one-time licenses that get deprecated sooner or later.

                                        @John-S-Parry said:

                                        The "upgrade to the new version" locks me out of any functional improvements.

                                        I feel this is really untrue. There are many functional improvements included in the upgrade for which nothing at all needs te be paid. Just wait and see 😉

                                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                        Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                                        • MotoCon MotoCon

                                          @John-S-Parry, I don't feel like turning this into an MS bash, but MS has MANY products with one-time licenses that get deprecated sooner or later.

                                          @John-S-Parry said:

                                          The "upgrade to the new version" locks me out of any functional improvements.

                                          I feel this is really untrue. There are many functional improvements included in the upgrade for which nothing at all needs te be paid. Just wait and see 😉

                                          John S Parry
                                          John S Parry
                                          John S Parry
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #65

                                          @Con-Hennekens said:

                                          I don't feel like turning this into an MS bash, but MS has MANY products with one-time licenses that get deprecated sooner or later.

                                          I was simply using MS as an example. I can't speak to the totality of licenses that get deprecated, but I don't see the relevance. I have an Excel 2016 license I use frequently, 10 years after I purchased it. My point was that I knew that license would never be updated, and I was fine with that because I only use it for basic stuff anyway. Again, the point is disclosure. MS was clear up front. I was never led to believe it would be updated over time.

                                          My experience with "Lifetime" is that it's up-front money to help fund critical development in exchange for ownership/updates in perpetuity. It appears that the powers to be at MRA feel different. So be it. These are just my thoughts on the matter.

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