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  • Tom Grzelinski
    Tom Grzelinski
    Tom Grzelinski
    wrote last edited by
    #35

    Well I would, but the site is not allowing me to create an account – no matter what I do it says "Please check the form and try again". And I can't log in with my current account details - says "That email and password don’t match", even though I am happily logged in to MRA Routeplanner and forums in separate tabs.

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    • Anonymouse
      Anonymouse
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      wrote last edited by
      #36

      It's great to see the app being refreshed.

      But the pricing and communications are really very confusing -- as so many posters here have said. I've read and re-read the beta website, and all the posts, and still don't actually know what I will pay as a Lifetime Gold wanting all new features. And like others I tried to respond to the call-to-action by clicking on the beta button only to find my login rejected; elsewhere I see it isn't even open until next month.

      This is why you need beta testing. To put things in front of real-world users and see whether your assumptions are the same as the users'. To find out what seems very straightforward sitting within the company, but completely confusing to your users.

      And it is why it's unusual to ask those very users to pay to participate in the beta. We pay, we provide critique and feedback, the company gets the benefit of our work.

      I'm happy to support MRA because I believe in the product and in a roundabout way we may all benefit. But this whole pay-for-beta thing is quite odd.

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      • Emanuele 5
        Emanuele 5
        Emanuele 5
        wrote last edited by
        #37

        I’m happy to see the route planner evolving. I’d like to ask Corjan to clear up a doubt for me: if I participate in the RoutePlanner Next beta and create new routes with it, will I be able to navigate them using the MRA Navigation Next app I currently have?

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        • Anonymouse Anonymouse

          It's great to see the app being refreshed.

          But the pricing and communications are really very confusing -- as so many posters here have said. I've read and re-read the beta website, and all the posts, and still don't actually know what I will pay as a Lifetime Gold wanting all new features. And like others I tried to respond to the call-to-action by clicking on the beta button only to find my login rejected; elsewhere I see it isn't even open until next month.

          This is why you need beta testing. To put things in front of real-world users and see whether your assumptions are the same as the users'. To find out what seems very straightforward sitting within the company, but completely confusing to your users.

          And it is why it's unusual to ask those very users to pay to participate in the beta. We pay, we provide critique and feedback, the company gets the benefit of our work.

          I'm happy to support MRA because I believe in the product and in a roundabout way we may all benefit. But this whole pay-for-beta thing is quite odd.

          Corjan Meijerink
          Corjan Meijerink
          Corjan Meijerink
          Developer
          wrote last edited by
          #38

          @Anonymouse You pay for lifetime features and early access.
          We did the exact same thing for Navigation Next and that was a massive success 🙂

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          • Emanuele 5 Emanuele 5

            I’m happy to see the route planner evolving. I’d like to ask Corjan to clear up a doubt for me: if I participate in the RoutePlanner Next beta and create new routes with it, will I be able to navigate them using the MRA Navigation Next app I currently have?

            Corjan Meijerink
            Corjan Meijerink
            Corjan Meijerink
            Developer
            wrote last edited by
            #39

            @Emanuele-5 We are working on that! 🙂
            Yes, the app will be able to sync with the beta environment when that beta becomes accessible.

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            • Hubert Thoring
              Hubert Thoring
              Hubert Thoring
              Valued contributor
              wrote last edited by Hubert Thoring
              #40

              Hello MRA Team,

              I feel cheated as a user of "MRA Routenplaner Gold" in Lifetime as a user. I don't understand the announcements either, why I once paid for Lifetime to find out that "MRA Route Planner Gold" is now probably at the end of the development and the "New Name = MEA Route Planner Next" of the update to Web 2.0 or even before was now asked for money what I want to avoid with the Lifetime Account "MRA Route Planner Gold".

              The "MRA Route Planner Next" is an update for me and included in the MRA Route Planner Gold Lifetime license, so it was also with the "MRA Navigation" on MRA Navigation Next" in Lifetime.

              I ask for clarification of the content on the web site and the procedure with regard to the purchased lifetime licenses ..

              • MRA Route Planner Gold 12.08.2021 incl. further updates...

              • MRA Navigation 26.11.2021 incl. later update to MRA Navigation Next

              Best regards

              Hubert Thoring

              —-###—-

              Hallo MRA Team,

              ich fühle mich als User von „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ in Lifetime als User getäuscht. Ich verstehe die Ankündigungen so auch nicht, warum habe ich mal für Lifetime bezahlt um jetzt zu erfahren das „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ jetzt wohl am Ende der Entwicklung ist und der „Neue Name = MRA Routenplaner Next“ des Update auf Web 2.0 oder wies auch immer schon mal angekündigt war jetzt nach Geld verlangt was ich mit dem Lifetime Konto „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ vermeiden will.

              Der „MRA Routenplaner Next“ ist für mich ein Update und in der MRA Routenplaner Gold Lifetime Lizenz enthalten, so war es auch bei der „MRA Navigation“ auf MRA Navigation Next“ im Lifetime.

              Ich bitte um Klarstellung der Inhalte auf der Web Seite und der Vorgehensweise mit Blick auf die gekauften Lifetime Lizenzen ..

              • MRA Routenplaner Gold 12.08.2021 inkl. weiterer Updates…

              • MRA Navigation 26.11.2021 inkl. Späterem Update auf MRA Navigation Next

              Mit freundlichen Grüßen
              Hubert Thoring

              VG Hubert
              Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware .
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              • Corjan Meijerink
                Corjan Meijerink
                Corjan Meijerink
                Developer
                wrote last edited by
                #41

                Please see https://beta.myrouteapp.com/presale#existing-customers for more information.

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                • John S Parry
                  John S Parry
                  John S Parry
                  wrote last edited by
                  #42

                  If I understand things correctly, when I bought Gold Lifetime for MRA Routeplanner a few years ago, what I was actually purchasing was lifetime point-in-time functionality as it exactly existed then. I'm not sure it was presented as such, but I'll go with buying the new functionality if it makes sense. A company needs on-going revenue to remain viable, and serious enhancements require money.

                  I would still like to know what the AI piece is going to cost beyond the $50 for Next. I doubt it's going to break the bank, but I think it's fair to ask what the price for the entire package will be. Or at least understand if AI can be purchased without also buying Routeplanner Next.

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                  • Corjan Meijerink
                    Corjan Meijerink
                    Corjan Meijerink
                    Developer
                    wrote last edited by
                    #43

                    Oh yes definitely! That’s possible.
                    Just another subscription when the new website (MRA Routeplanner Next) becomes available.
                    And as said, that becomes available to all 🙂 Regardless of your subscription and if you purchase something now.

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                    • Joe Hoss
                      Joe Hoss
                      Joe Hoss
                      wrote last edited by
                      #44

                      I just switched from Apple to Android ecosystem and run Android Auto both on my motorcycle and my car.

                      I am able and willing to join the beta team.

                      Hoss

                      Those who wander are not always lost....

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                      • silberfuchs67
                        silberfuchs67
                        silberfuchs67
                        wrote last edited by
                        #45

                        Hi @corjan-meijerink How to handle the new Beta Login Credentials? Is it possible to use the same Email Adress with a new password?

                        If you think everything is under control you are driving to slow!

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                        • silberfuchs67 silberfuchs67

                          Hi @corjan-meijerink How to handle the new Beta Login Credentials? Is it possible to use the same Email Adress with a new password?

                          Corjan Meijerink
                          Corjan Meijerink
                          Corjan Meijerink
                          Developer
                          wrote last edited by
                          #46

                          @silberfuchs67 yes!

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                          • Tenmill 0
                            Tenmill 0
                            Tenmill 0
                            wrote last edited by
                            #47

                            Are you able to say what the price will be for those of us that hold off until launch?

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                            • Hubert Thoring Hubert Thoring

                              Hello MRA Team,

                              I feel cheated as a user of "MRA Routenplaner Gold" in Lifetime as a user. I don't understand the announcements either, why I once paid for Lifetime to find out that "MRA Route Planner Gold" is now probably at the end of the development and the "New Name = MEA Route Planner Next" of the update to Web 2.0 or even before was now asked for money what I want to avoid with the Lifetime Account "MRA Route Planner Gold".

                              The "MRA Route Planner Next" is an update for me and included in the MRA Route Planner Gold Lifetime license, so it was also with the "MRA Navigation" on MRA Navigation Next" in Lifetime.

                              I ask for clarification of the content on the web site and the procedure with regard to the purchased lifetime licenses ..

                              • MRA Route Planner Gold 12.08.2021 incl. further updates...

                              • MRA Navigation 26.11.2021 incl. later update to MRA Navigation Next

                              Best regards

                              Hubert Thoring

                              —-###—-

                              Hallo MRA Team,

                              ich fühle mich als User von „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ in Lifetime als User getäuscht. Ich verstehe die Ankündigungen so auch nicht, warum habe ich mal für Lifetime bezahlt um jetzt zu erfahren das „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ jetzt wohl am Ende der Entwicklung ist und der „Neue Name = MRA Routenplaner Next“ des Update auf Web 2.0 oder wies auch immer schon mal angekündigt war jetzt nach Geld verlangt was ich mit dem Lifetime Konto „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ vermeiden will.

                              Der „MRA Routenplaner Next“ ist für mich ein Update und in der MRA Routenplaner Gold Lifetime Lizenz enthalten, so war es auch bei der „MRA Navigation“ auf MRA Navigation Next“ im Lifetime.

                              Ich bitte um Klarstellung der Inhalte auf der Web Seite und der Vorgehensweise mit Blick auf die gekauften Lifetime Lizenzen ..

                              • MRA Routenplaner Gold 12.08.2021 inkl. weiterer Updates…

                              • MRA Navigation 26.11.2021 inkl. Späterem Update auf MRA Navigation Next

                              Mit freundlichen Grüßen
                              Hubert Thoring

                              Stevedo 6 0
                              Stevedo 6 0
                              Stevedo 6 0
                              wrote last edited by
                              #48

                              @Hubert-Thoring

                              Hi Hubert, I've had time to sleep on this and look at it again this morning. You have captured exactly how I feel about these latest announcements. I paid for Planner and Navigation Lifetime licenses in November 2025. Seems a very short lifetime to now be asking for more money. MRA will argue that I don't have to pay anything but then I don't get new features that are implied by a lifetime license.

                              Also, I find it unacceptable for MRA to ask existing customers to pay to test Beta software, really!!!!

                              As others have expressed, I think this whole thing has been communicated extremely poorly as evidenced by the number of questions and declarations of confusion.

                              To me, this feels like a company that was too successful in selling lifetime licenses. As a result, recurring and new customer revenues are not sufficient, hence the current efforts to extract more money from existing lifetime license holders. All IMHO.

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                              • Hubert Thoring Hubert Thoring

                                Hello MRA Team,

                                I feel cheated as a user of "MRA Routenplaner Gold" in Lifetime as a user. I don't understand the announcements either, why I once paid for Lifetime to find out that "MRA Route Planner Gold" is now probably at the end of the development and the "New Name = MEA Route Planner Next" of the update to Web 2.0 or even before was now asked for money what I want to avoid with the Lifetime Account "MRA Route Planner Gold".

                                The "MRA Route Planner Next" is an update for me and included in the MRA Route Planner Gold Lifetime license, so it was also with the "MRA Navigation" on MRA Navigation Next" in Lifetime.

                                I ask for clarification of the content on the web site and the procedure with regard to the purchased lifetime licenses ..

                                • MRA Route Planner Gold 12.08.2021 incl. further updates...

                                • MRA Navigation 26.11.2021 incl. later update to MRA Navigation Next

                                Best regards

                                Hubert Thoring

                                —-###—-

                                Hallo MRA Team,

                                ich fühle mich als User von „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ in Lifetime als User getäuscht. Ich verstehe die Ankündigungen so auch nicht, warum habe ich mal für Lifetime bezahlt um jetzt zu erfahren das „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ jetzt wohl am Ende der Entwicklung ist und der „Neue Name = MRA Routenplaner Next“ des Update auf Web 2.0 oder wies auch immer schon mal angekündigt war jetzt nach Geld verlangt was ich mit dem Lifetime Konto „MRA Routenplaner Gold“ vermeiden will.

                                Der „MRA Routenplaner Next“ ist für mich ein Update und in der MRA Routenplaner Gold Lifetime Lizenz enthalten, so war es auch bei der „MRA Navigation“ auf MRA Navigation Next“ im Lifetime.

                                Ich bitte um Klarstellung der Inhalte auf der Web Seite und der Vorgehensweise mit Blick auf die gekauften Lifetime Lizenzen ..

                                • MRA Routenplaner Gold 12.08.2021 inkl. weiterer Updates…

                                • MRA Navigation 26.11.2021 inkl. Späterem Update auf MRA Navigation Next

                                Mit freundlichen Grüßen
                                Hubert Thoring

                                Marinus van Deudekom
                                Marinus van Deudekom
                                Marinus van Deudekom
                                RouteXpert
                                wrote last edited by
                                #49

                                @Hubert-Thoring Hubert just look at the explanation on the site and all of the FAQ's you'll find all the answers there. You dont have to buy anything and you'll have what you've paid for. With the upgrade to the beta planner you'll have have some extra's.
                                Not to worry

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                                Honda Silverwing GL 650
                                DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
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                                • Marinus van Deudekom Marinus van Deudekom

                                  @Hubert-Thoring Hubert just look at the explanation on the site and all of the FAQ's you'll find all the answers there. You dont have to buy anything and you'll have what you've paid for. With the upgrade to the beta planner you'll have have some extra's.
                                  Not to worry

                                  Dave J 0
                                  Dave J 0
                                  Dave J 0
                                  Valued contributor
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #50

                                  @Marinus-van-Deudekom Agree. People need to read the explanations! I took advantage of the Beta Navigation Next Lifetime early purchase and that has worked really well. I will do the same for the new Planner which is a cheap price for some of the new features whilst keeping my current planner features on a new platform; moreover, I get a chance to test and have a say on future builds. Most developers, and not just MRA, are charging a premium for integrated AI features so I did not expect that new feature to be included - AI platform providers are charging for services like these.

                                  MRA, I feel, is being very fair for early access to a new set of features without undermining existing lifetime Gold customers who will still move to the new platform with the features they currently have.

                                  Kind Regards. Help where I can.
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                                  • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                                    Having Routeplanner Gold allows you to keep using all the features you currently have.

                                    MRA Routeplanner Next will have many new features. Those are new subscriptions.
                                    Buying pre-sale gives lifetime access to those with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next (that stays as it is).

                                    Buying the €199 pre-sale is only relevant if you don’t have Gold lifetime now. Then you immediately get that too. The €49 is for:

                                    • Early access
                                    • Private forum group where you help decide what we build
                                    • Lifetime access to the new subscriptions with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next
                                    • A good night sleep as you support a hard working small company
                                    • Badge on your profile

                                    That’s it 🙂

                                    You loose nothing. Do not worry.
                                    This is a fun announcement that a lot of awesome new stuff is coming.

                                    Not paying anything? That’s fine!
                                    You keep the features you have, no extra’s and have to wait to February to use it.

                                    Christian Feurstein
                                    Christian Feurstein
                                    Christian Feurstein
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #51

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink said:

                                    Having Routeplanner Gold allows you to keep using all the features you currently have.

                                    MRA Routeplanner Next will have many new features. Those are new subscriptions.
                                    Buying pre-sale gives lifetime access to those with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next (that stays as it is).

                                    Buying the €199 pre-sale is only relevant if you don’t have Gold lifetime now. Then you immediately get that too. The €49 is for:

                                    • Early access
                                    • Private forum group where you help decide what we build
                                    • Lifetime access to the new subscriptions with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next
                                    • A good night sleep as you support a hard working small company
                                    • Badge on your profile

                                    That’s it 🙂

                                    You loose nothing. Do not worry.
                                    This is a fun announcement that a lot of awesome new stuff is coming.

                                    Not paying anything? That’s fine!
                                    You keep the features you have, no extra’s and have to wait to February to use it.

                                    Sorry, but it is still confusing imho.
                                    You are telling us:

                                    • Lifetime access to the new subscriptions with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next

                                    Which are those new subscribtions in detail for a MRA Routeplanner Gold Lifetime / Navigation Next Lifetime member? In other words, as a MRA Routeplanner Gold Lifetime member / Navigation Next Lifetime do I get which new subscriptions/functions when buying the €49 offer?
                                    The commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner is even with the €49 package not included, so what is the difference in funcionality then between buying and not buying the €49 package? Just early access, private forum, badge and donating???

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                                    • Christian Feurstein Christian Feurstein

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink said:

                                      Having Routeplanner Gold allows you to keep using all the features you currently have.

                                      MRA Routeplanner Next will have many new features. Those are new subscriptions.
                                      Buying pre-sale gives lifetime access to those with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next (that stays as it is).

                                      Buying the €199 pre-sale is only relevant if you don’t have Gold lifetime now. Then you immediately get that too. The €49 is for:

                                      • Early access
                                      • Private forum group where you help decide what we build
                                      • Lifetime access to the new subscriptions with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next
                                      • A good night sleep as you support a hard working small company
                                      • Badge on your profile

                                      That’s it 🙂

                                      You loose nothing. Do not worry.
                                      This is a fun announcement that a lot of awesome new stuff is coming.

                                      Not paying anything? That’s fine!
                                      You keep the features you have, no extra’s and have to wait to February to use it.

                                      Sorry, but it is still confusing imho.
                                      You are telling us:

                                      • Lifetime access to the new subscriptions with the exception for commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner and Navigation Next

                                      Which are those new subscribtions in detail for a MRA Routeplanner Gold Lifetime / Navigation Next Lifetime member? In other words, as a MRA Routeplanner Gold Lifetime member / Navigation Next Lifetime do I get which new subscriptions/functions when buying the €49 offer?
                                      The commercial clubs, AI Routeplanner is even with the €49 package not included, so what is the difference in funcionality then between buying and not buying the €49 package? Just early access, private forum, badge and donating???

                                      Corjan Meijerink
                                      Corjan Meijerink
                                      Corjan Meijerink
                                      Developer
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #52

                                      @Christian-Feurstein read this: https://beta.myrouteapp.com/presale#existing-customers

                                      It says exactly what happens and when

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                                      • Dikke Wim
                                        Dikke Wim
                                        Dikke Wim
                                        Valued contributor
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #53

                                        I am a MRA Routeplanner Gold Lifetime and a
                                        Navigation Next Lifetime member and I'm trying to buy beta access for €49.
                                        Unfortunately, I cannot login with my regular inlog and password. Do I have to register again?

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                                        • Dikke Wim Dikke Wim

                                          I am a MRA Routeplanner Gold Lifetime and a
                                          Navigation Next Lifetime member and I'm trying to buy beta access for €49.
                                          Unfortunately, I cannot login with my regular inlog and password. Do I have to register again?

                                          Marinus van Deudekom
                                          Marinus van Deudekom
                                          Marinus van Deudekom
                                          RouteXpert
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #54

                                          @Dikke-Wim Yes Wim it says Create a new account and afterwards submit your original account

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