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Auto skip many waypoints by itself while I was on route. [5.2.0 - 474]

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  • Brian McG Brian McG

    @paul69 the roads may well be established but if one of the sets of map data contains data about a road being impassable i.e. closed for construction or if the map data weights a road with a different average speed then the calculation of route could possibly result in a different being calculated

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    #31

    hi @Brian-McG said:

    the roads may well be established but if one of the sets of map data contains data about a road being impassable i.e. closed for construction or if the map data weights a road with a different average speed then the calculation of route could possibly result in a different being calculated

    suppose that's a fair point, one to remember for the future when arranging rides with others.
    TBF this can be the only explanation as nothing else would explain it.

    Take note all who read this, forget about the online, offline, internet or no internet, debacle, check your maps, obviously before you leave home on your trips with your mates 😂
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    to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
    K1600 GTL
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    iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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      #32

      hi @brian-mcg
      just thought I'd give you a quick update. I checked with my riding buddy and yes you are correct, his version was quite a few updates behind. It did not occur to me to even check if he had done this.
      I thought I was quite an experienced user of MRA, but it shows there is always something to learn.
      Complete School boy error but not too proud to admit it 😂

      I imagine this will be a good reminder for people to check the map versions.
      ✌️

      to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
      K1600 GTL
      Oukitel RT3
      iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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      • paul69 paul69

        hi @LennyO

        calculated route when offline, may not be exactly the same as you planned.

        not entirely sure what you mean here. Why would it calculate an already planned route. The routes are planned on the MRA website and automatically sync to the devices when NN opened, my routes do not change when I use NN, (lets not discuss seasonal closures etc)

        And the fact that the only people who had it different are the ones using the offline navigation kind of proves it.

        the one with internet access had the route changed on their device, not mine (without Internet), for me the route remained as we had planned on the laptop, we both had offline navigation enabled in settings

        did not have routes as tracks.

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        LennyO
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        wrote on last edited by LennyO
        #33

        @paul69 said:

        hi @LennyO

        calculated route when offline, may not be exactly the same as you planned.

        not entirely sure what you mean here. Why would it calculate an already planned route. The routes are planned on the MRA website and automatically sync to the devices when NN opened, my routes do not change when I use NN, (lets not discuss seasonal closures etc)

        @paul69 I say that because you or your friends may have options selected in the Functional preferences that adjust the route based on the real time road work or traffic conditions.
        That also answers the second half of my previous post.

        Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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        • paul69 paul69

          hi @brian-mcg
          just thought I'd give you a quick update. I checked with my riding buddy and yes you are correct, his version was quite a few updates behind. It did not occur to me to even check if he had done this.
          I thought I was quite an experienced user of MRA, but it shows there is always something to learn.
          Complete School boy error but not too proud to admit it 😂

          I imagine this will be a good reminder for people to check the map versions.
          ✌️

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          Brian McG
          wrote on last edited by
          #34

          @paul69 the idea of it being the maps is only a guess not a fact
          you would need to do some testing before & after updating the maps to prove it

          BlackView BV7100, Android 12
          Navigate "Routes as Tracks" in Offline mode with Offline Maps
          No Wifi, no internet, no interruptions, works well

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          • Brian McG Brian McG

            @paul69 the idea of it being the maps is only a guess not a fact
            you would need to do some testing before & after updating the maps to prove it

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            paul69
            wrote last edited by paul69
            #35

            @Brian-McG said:

            the idea of it being the maps is only a guess not a fact
            you would need to do some testing before & after updating the maps to prove it

            hi @brian-mcg
            if I had the time to ride those routes again, I absolutely would especially given the weather here at the moment, but we live 200 miles apart and work gets in the way😂
            Personally I believe it was probably the maps, I agree, as as you wrote, it would need to be properly evidenced, (but TBF I am not really that bothered, this was just a chat to highlight the issue for others)
            As I wrote previously, every single one of the functional settings were exactly the same, these were checked and double checked. There is no other explanation except perhaps IOS and android work differently with regard to navigation,

            to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
            K1600 GTL
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              LennyO
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              wrote last edited by LennyO
              #36

              So, as of now it seems we have no explanation of the core issue or any solution...
              Is somebody working on resolving it or I have missed something?
              Thanks, all!

              Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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              • LennyO LennyO

                So, as of now it seems we have no explanation of the core issue or any solution...
                Is somebody working on resolving it or I have missed something?
                Thanks, all!

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                #37

                @LennyO
                so it would seem, but if you are aware of it then you can pre-plan.

                think the lesson for me is, (when riding in group)

                1. ensure all have same map version
                2. ensure all settings the same
                3. compare the routes before riding off
                4. might consider all to use offline nav. (I do anyway)

                to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                K1600 GTL
                Oukitel RT3
                iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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                • paul69 paul69

                  @LennyO
                  so it would seem, but if you are aware of it then you can pre-plan.

                  think the lesson for me is, (when riding in group)

                  1. ensure all have same map version
                  2. ensure all settings the same
                  3. compare the routes before riding off
                  4. might consider all to use offline nav. (I do anyway)
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                  #38

                  @paul69 regards your point 3)
                  a simple check I do is to check the total mileage for the trip is exactly as expected
                  to do this I include the total mileage in the trip name somewhere near the start of the file name
                  when I open the file, the planned mileage should equal the file name mileage
                  when I start the navigation & the route is recalculated, if all is well the mileage should still be same / correct

                  its not infallible as you could get a route change that adds mileage in one area, then a second route change that takes a shortcut & reduces mileage, so you end up with the 2 changes cancelling each other out
                  however the odds on that are low & a mileage check should alert you to any signifiant deviations

                  an advantage of thi8s mileage check is it works across devices, no matter what navigation device you are using
                  if the mileages for the route do not match, at least reasonably closely, you know that the calculated route you are looking at is going to deviate somewhere along the path from the planned route

                  BlackView BV7100, Android 12
                  Navigate "Routes as Tracks" in Offline mode with Offline Maps
                  No Wifi, no internet, no interruptions, works well

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                  • Brian McG Brian McG

                    @paul69 regards your point 3)
                    a simple check I do is to check the total mileage for the trip is exactly as expected
                    to do this I include the total mileage in the trip name somewhere near the start of the file name
                    when I open the file, the planned mileage should equal the file name mileage
                    when I start the navigation & the route is recalculated, if all is well the mileage should still be same / correct

                    its not infallible as you could get a route change that adds mileage in one area, then a second route change that takes a shortcut & reduces mileage, so you end up with the 2 changes cancelling each other out
                    however the odds on that are low & a mileage check should alert you to any signifiant deviations

                    an advantage of thi8s mileage check is it works across devices, no matter what navigation device you are using
                    if the mileages for the route do not match, at least reasonably closely, you know that the calculated route you are looking at is going to deviate somewhere along the path from the planned route

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                    paul69
                    wrote last edited by
                    #39

                    hi @Brian-McG

                    I used to use that tip when I had an XT after transferring routes from MRA to the XT2.
                    but it's a good reminder 👍

                    to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                    K1600 GTL
                    Oukitel RT3
                    iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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                      wrote last edited by M. Schrijver
                      #40

                      Today i rode the route again. Just to see if the same problem happens again. And it did. Same place same result.
                      I lost cell coverage and approx 500 meters later, point 42 was skipped to point 56.

                      See the result in the screenshot below
                      Screenshot_20260906-142726.png

                      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                      • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

                        Today i rode the route again. Just to see if the same problem happens again. And it did. Same place same result.
                        I lost cell coverage and approx 500 meters later, point 42 was skipped to point 56.

                        See the result in the screenshot below
                        Screenshot_20260906-142726.png

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #41

                        @M.-Schrijver send me a link to that route and if you want me to I'll have a look at it

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                        Honda Silverwing GL 650
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                        • M. Schrijver Online
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                          #42

                          The same as on the first page:
                          https://www.myrouteapp.com/nl/social/route/14017569?mode=share

                          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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