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GPX Versions 1.1 vs 1.2 for Garmin Visually Explained

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  • Carl Lee Offline
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    Road Closures.

    I’m not sure when I’ll get to test this but has anyone found out what happens to a GPX1.2 route when you come across one? That would be with ‘Traffic’ enabled. I’m not sure whether auto-recalculate would make any difference here or not.

    I have Traffic enabled but not on auto re-route so I just get the info. Road closures are independent of that setting though and divert anyway. Historically, on older Zumos, a closure would catastrophically destroy a route but with the XT2 and GPX1.1, a nice route around it was what I have experienced.

    Would a road closure diversion trigger a full route recalculation? Would Traffic need to be disabled to avoid that?

    I did hazard a guess and it was 50/50 (aka I don’t know).

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    • Simon James Hancock Offline
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      When I save a route created in My Route planner website using shape points and save it as 1.2 the route appears on my routes page as only a route and not a route and track. Is this normal?

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        Good question. I honestly don't know as well. The problem also is that there's no guarantee that the results are going to be the same between the XT, XT2, XT3 or any of the previous units!

        Steve Jarrell
        Western North Carolina US

        Lifetime Routeplanner Gold & Navigation Next
        2025 BMW R1300GS
        2025 Can-Am Spyder
        DMD T865-X 8" Tablet
        Garmin XT3

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        • Simon James Hancock Simon James Hancock

          When I save a route created in My Route planner website using shape points and save it as 1.2 the route appears on my routes page as only a route and not a route and track. Is this normal?

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          @Simon-James-Hancock Yes. The route that shows in MRA will also be your track when it's exported.

          Steve Jarrell
          Western North Carolina US

          Lifetime Routeplanner Gold & Navigation Next
          2025 BMW R1300GS
          2025 Can-Am Spyder
          DMD T865-X 8" Tablet
          Garmin XT3

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          • Simon James Hancock Offline
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            I thought so, I just wanted to make sure.
            Again I want to thank everyone who has helped.

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            • Simon James Hancock Simon James Hancock

              I thought so, I just wanted to make sure.
              Again I want to thank everyone who has helped.

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              @Simon-James-Hancock You're very welcome. Everyone has been extremely helpful in this thread and I'm grateful as well!

              Steve Jarrell
              Western North Carolina US

              Lifetime Routeplanner Gold & Navigation Next
              2025 BMW R1300GS
              2025 Can-Am Spyder
              DMD T865-X 8" Tablet
              Garmin XT3

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              • Simon James Hancock Offline
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                Just to summarize what I have learned.
                Make a route in MRA with Here map using shape points.
                Making sure to have the first point when leaving a bit further down the road to make sure that the route starts.
                Widen the and colour the track with the garmin settings.
                Save as 1.2
                Question: When using shaping points and I place one next to a petrol station and name it Petrol and add a symbol of a petrol station, will it appear and can I select it when navigating or do I have to make a via point?

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                • Carl Lee Offline
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                  #140

                  @simon-james-hancock I think with your petrol station, the symbol you have added on MRA will only appear there and not on your Zumo. If you want a symbol on the Zumo, you can add a POI on MRA and that will appear - but it will only show as a flag and with the name you have given it (default is POI) so further editing is required on the Zumo if you want to see a petrol pump. If you want a mileage and/or time countdown to the petrol station, change the shaping point to a via point which you can name and that will be retained on the Zumo (also as a flag).

                  Just to recap, shaping points will not show on your Zumo using GPX1.2 but via points will.

                  I'm happy to be corrected and to learn if there is a different way.

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                  • Simon James Hancock Offline
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                    Has anyone tried the trip repair tool by FrankB
                    Here is the link
                    https://www.javawa.nl/triprepair.html

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                    • Simon James Hancock Simon James Hancock

                      Just to summarize what I have learned.
                      Make a route in MRA with Here map using shape points.
                      Making sure to have the first point when leaving a bit further down the road to make sure that the route starts.
                      Widen the and colour the track with the garmin settings.
                      Save as 1.2
                      Question: When using shaping points and I place one next to a petrol station and name it Petrol and add a symbol of a petrol station, will it appear and can I select it when navigating or do I have to make a via point?

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                      @Simon-James-Hancock You would have to make it a via point. Shaping points simply shape the route. There are no shaping points in the route section of a 1.2 .gpx file. There are just gpx lat/lon coordinates.

                      Steve Jarrell
                      Western North Carolina US

                      Lifetime Routeplanner Gold & Navigation Next
                      2025 BMW R1300GS
                      2025 Can-Am Spyder
                      DMD T865-X 8" Tablet
                      Garmin XT3

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                        As I understand it if I make it a via point I will have to stop there otherwise will be rerouted back.
                        I just want to add the location of petrol stations for referance when I might need them along the route.

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                        • Simon James Hancock Simon James Hancock

                          Has anyone tried the trip repair tool by FrankB
                          Here is the link
                          https://www.javawa.nl/triprepair.html

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                          @Simon-James-Hancock

                          Trip Manager by FrankB is brilliant. Too much to go into detail here. Best bet is to go to https://zumouserforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3150 which has a full discussion on the features, functions, links, documentation etc. for Trip Manager.

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