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Anyone tried Ridernav R7M with MRA via AA yet?

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  • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

    @PieterG said:

    God only knows what caused it...
    (for the record: I haven't experienced these problems with other apps, so hardware and/or configuration errors can be excluded)

    I'm sorry you've encountered these problems......

    But God has nothing to do with it.... The problem stems from a lack of user knowledge and, as a result, incorrect usage.

    Offline navigation works perfectly, just as Lenny described.

    The fact that you haven't had any problems with other apps doesn't mean MRA is to blame if you've encountered issues.
    Every app has its own quirks and settings, but if those aren’t set correctly or if mistakes were made while using the app, you shouldn’t blame the app itself.

    Please don’t get me wrong… even with MRA, not everything is perfect, but your description shows me that user errors were definitely made.

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    @Peter-Zehentreiter said:

    @PieterG said:

    God only knows what caused it...
    (for the record: I haven't experienced these problems with other apps, so hardware and/or configuration errors can be excluded)

    I'm sorry you've encountered these problems......

    But God has nothing to do with it.... The problem stems from a lack of user knowledge and, as a result, incorrect usage.

    Offline navigation works perfectly, just as Lenny described.

    The fact that you haven't had any problems with other apps doesn't mean MRA is to blame if you've encountered issues.
    Every app has its own quirks and settings, but if those aren’t set correctly or if mistakes were made while using the app, you shouldn’t blame the app itself.

    Please don’t get me wrong… even with MRA, not everything is perfect, but your description shows me that user errors were definitely made.

    Hi Peter,

    I believe I only described my experiences, right?
    Somewhere earlier I also wrote that I think MRA should have a 'simple mode' button (or 'Kurviger mode' 😉 ) for impatient suckers like me. So that the chance of user errors fatal to your route is reduced to a rock-solid app. You don't have to agree with me, no problem. But this is my conviction.

    And regarding the question of whether or not God has anything to do with this: that just depends on what you believe, doesn't it? If it wasn't God, then is must be the devil😉

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      OK, I promised feedback on using the RiderNav R7M on a 8.500 km trip to Noordkaap last June 2026. I drive a BMW R1300GSA and use the R7M with Apple CarPlay. My iPhone, on which I run the MRA app, is in my top case, connected to USB power.
      Overall, I am very pleased with the R7M. The screen is very clear and big, it has a touch screen function which is very convenient and works much faster than using the WonderWheel.
      First, I had stuff to learn about the MRA app. I found that on remote places, the MRA screen would go blanc (buttons were there, no map however). I learned that I had to download the maps of the countries where I rode and put the app on off-line, than all went well from there on. The R7M experience. First of all, there was always good CarPlay connection - just start the bike and after a jew seconds, the MRA screen would pop up. Switching to Apple Music for starting music en switching back to MRA, just by touching the screen, perfect. During 4 weeks of riding, it happened 3 times that while riding, the R7M just restarted. Screen goes black and starts up again. You don't have to do anything, it comes back on immediately itself. Not a real issue, but I mention it anyway. What happened more often, is that the connection with the WonderWheel stopped. Restarting does reconnect the connection, but not nice. It happened once every 2 days of riding. In the end it was no issue for me, because using the Wonderwheel to navigate the buttons in CarPlay is a hassle. I found out that using the touch screen is soooo much easier, I never uses the Wonderwheel anyway. So, overall I am very happy and do recommend the R7M/Carplay/MRA combination to all BMW drives. A great screen for a very competitive price in my opinion.

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      • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

        Every app has indeed their own quirks. But to my opnion. MRA must be used in a smaller bandwith to get to work correct. There is less room for user errors for the app to handle.
        Other apps can handle user error better without giving problems.

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        @M.-Schrijver said:

        Every app has indeed their own quirks. But to my opnion. MRA must be used in a smaller bandwith to get to work correct. There is less room for user errors for the app to handle.
        Other apps can handle user error better without giving problems.

        Exactly my point.
        Let’s just say that is why I personally am not a good match for MRA. (though I am with a range of other navigation apps, that’s for sure 😉) Simply because I don't want complexity when I'm out on the road and want to focus on the experience of the ride, instead of navigation support that keeps pulling me over because I’ve probably done something wrong again.

        However, the fact that my setup crashes 6 to 8 times a day makes it unusable for me (for me, that is).

        I don't experience these crash issues with other apps, so that is where my driving pleasure lies.

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        • Ed Lauwerens 0undefined Ed Lauwerens 0

          OK, I promised feedback on using the RiderNav R7M on a 8.500 km trip to Noordkaap last June 2026. I drive a BMW R1300GSA and use the R7M with Apple CarPlay. My iPhone, on which I run the MRA app, is in my top case, connected to USB power.
          Overall, I am very pleased with the R7M. The screen is very clear and big, it has a touch screen function which is very convenient and works much faster than using the WonderWheel.
          First, I had stuff to learn about the MRA app. I found that on remote places, the MRA screen would go blanc (buttons were there, no map however). I learned that I had to download the maps of the countries where I rode and put the app on off-line, than all went well from there on. The R7M experience. First of all, there was always good CarPlay connection - just start the bike and after a jew seconds, the MRA screen would pop up. Switching to Apple Music for starting music en switching back to MRA, just by touching the screen, perfect. During 4 weeks of riding, it happened 3 times that while riding, the R7M just restarted. Screen goes black and starts up again. You don't have to do anything, it comes back on immediately itself. Not a real issue, but I mention it anyway. What happened more often, is that the connection with the WonderWheel stopped. Restarting does reconnect the connection, but not nice. It happened once every 2 days of riding. In the end it was no issue for me, because using the Wonderwheel to navigate the buttons in CarPlay is a hassle. I found out that using the touch screen is soooo much easier, I never uses the Wonderwheel anyway. So, overall I am very happy and do recommend the R7M/Carplay/MRA combination to all BMW drives. A great screen for a very competitive price in my opinion.

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          @Ed-Lauwerens-0

          Wow, great story!

          Unfortunate for you that the Ridernav R7M malfunctioned a few times. (To date, 3000km, I haven't had these problems)

          I completely agree with your conclusion, the Ridernav R7M is the best you can buy for the price😀

          (Aspirants, take note: it is always available with a 25% discount)

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            #53

            Can someone please, give me a complete list of buttons / features I would not see running MRA Nav App on R7M, compared to what I am used to seeing on the Phone.
            In my quick test I just noticed a few.

            Any other quirks or issues I need to know running from my Android S25 Ultra?
            Any hints dealing with "issues" / differences are much appreciated!
            Juat want to weigh my options.

            Thank you all!

            Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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              I don't have CP or AA, but the disadvantages would be from my point of view as far as I've noticed:

              Disadvantages CP / AA

              • two devices, the display and the mobile phone

              • Mobile phone gets very warm

              • Skipping WP is not so easy

              • Zooming is not so easy

              • the CP / AA coupling causes problems

              • no direct remote control with BT

              • Type of operation wander over the display

              • Display usually only horizontal

              Mobile phone advantages

              • all MyRouteApp functions

              • Control via BT keyboard directly possible

              • Navigation map zoom +/-

              • Skip WP Double click (DC) right

              • Call menu / search function

              • etc.

              • Mobile phone horizontal and vertical

              My solution is an iPhone Xr in BMW Cradel with inductive charging, with the MyRouteApp with full function, the BT keyboard from Remotek One for direct zooming +/- and WP skip with DC right

              VG Hubert
              Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware .
              iPad 9. Gen iOS 26.5.2/ iPhone 16e iOS 26.5.2/ Navi iPhone Xr iOS 18.7.9 / PC mit MS Win11 /❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️ Info zu MRA & Remotek One

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              • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                I don't have CP or AA, but the disadvantages would be from my point of view as far as I've noticed:

                Disadvantages CP / AA

                • two devices, the display and the mobile phone

                • Mobile phone gets very warm

                • Skipping WP is not so easy

                • Zooming is not so easy

                • the CP / AA coupling causes problems

                • no direct remote control with BT

                • Type of operation wander over the display

                • Display usually only horizontal

                Mobile phone advantages

                • all MyRouteApp functions

                • Control via BT keyboard directly possible

                • Navigation map zoom +/-

                • Skip WP Double click (DC) right

                • Call menu / search function

                • etc.

                • Mobile phone horizontal and vertical

                My solution is an iPhone Xr in BMW Cradel with inductive charging, with the MyRouteApp with full function, the BT keyboard from Remotek One for direct zooming +/- and WP skip with DC right

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                @Hubert-Thoring said:

                I don't have CP or AA, but the disadvantages would be from my point of view as far as I've noticed:

                Disadvantages CP / AA

                • two devices, the display and the mobile phone

                • Mobile phone gets very warm

                • Skipping WP is not so easy

                • Zooming is not so easy

                • the CP / AA coupling causes problems

                • no direct remote control with BT

                • Type of operation wander over the display

                • Display usually only horizontal

                • First two points are valid. You could say it is a disadvantage. But that is a personal preference. AA/ACP has their advantages. Button sizes and functionality is setup for use on the road. The smartphone it is designed to use with the phone in your hand.
                • AutoSkip is big irritation point of mine. Regardless phone or AA/ACP. Because auto shouldn't exist at all. From that point of view. It isn't an issue.
                • Zooming is typical MRA issue. When using other navigation apps. Autozoom behave on AA/ACP exactly the same as on the phone.
                • AA/ACP connection issues are valid. But everybody has their own experience. So difficult to predict and rule out.
                • Most AA/ACP have touchscreens so BT remote controls are not necessary. Besides that. Controlling the app when riding is something you should avoid (safety issue). When the app works well, there is no need to control the app.
                • Type of operation? Do not know what you mean?
                • Horizontal navigation is the right one. Vertical navigation has no advantages at all. The map is tilted a bit in vertical position that's all. Only because people are used to hold their phone vertical, the option is there. Your view with your eyes is also horizontal. Never seen a person with 2 eyes on top of each other for vertical view

                (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                  @lenny-o @peter-zehentreiter

                  Yes, but the app in vertical is already good !!

                  Hint: Carpuride W712D Can be vertical and that as CP / AA Display

                  Handy an der R1250GS im BMW Cradel

                  IMG_8121.jpeg

                  Das W712D

                  IMG_0283.jpeg

                  VG Hubert
                  Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware .
                  iPad 9. Gen iOS 26.5.2/ iPhone 16e iOS 26.5.2/ Navi iPhone Xr iOS 18.7.9 / PC mit MS Win11 /❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️ Info zu MRA & Remotek One

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                  • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                    @lenny-o @peter-zehentreiter

                    Yes, but the app in vertical is already good !!

                    Hint: Carpuride W712D Can be vertical and that as CP / AA Display

                    Handy an der R1250GS im BMW Cradel

                    IMG_8121.jpeg

                    Das W712D

                    IMG_0283.jpeg

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                    @Hubert-Thoring said:

                    @lenny-o @peter-zehentreiter

                    Yes, but the app in vertical is already good !!

                    Hint: Carpuride W712D Can be vertical and that as CP / AA Display

                    Handy an der R1250GS im BMW Cradel

                    IMG_8121.jpeg

                    Das W712D

                    IMG_0283.jpeg

                    Nooo! First of all you need the W702BS or BS pro for BMW if you want Wonderwheel support. These BS models fit in the oem BMW navi cradle and therefore can only be mounted horizontally.
                    Furthermore, Carpuride 7 inch models are blocking a bit of the view of your TFT screen when mounted horizontally, and if you mount the 712 (the one you do not need) vertically, it practically covers half of your TFT screen on a R1250GS and at the top it will rub against the windscreen....

                    Nice setup you have with you phone in a phone cradle. I tried that once but the wireless charger was disturbing my key-free signal...
                    And, more important to me, that way you have no touchscreen that works with cloves on, screen not bright enough in the sunlight and no Wonderwheel support...

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                      #58

                      There is a solution to this... is still being tested

                      IMG_7826.jpeg

                      IMG_7825.jpeg

                      IMG_7829.jpeg

                      VG Hubert
                      Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware .
                      iPad 9. Gen iOS 26.5.2/ iPhone 16e iOS 26.5.2/ Navi iPhone Xr iOS 18.7.9 / PC mit MS Win11 /❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️ Info zu MRA & Remotek One

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                      • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                        There is a solution to this... is still being tested

                        IMG_7826.jpeg

                        IMG_7825.jpeg

                        IMG_7829.jpeg

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                        @Hubert-Thoring said:

                        There is a solution to this... is still being tested

                        IMG_7826.jpeg

                        IMG_7825.jpeg

                        IMG_7829.jpeg

                        Does it support the Wonderwheel? I don’t see a connector...
                        And that doesn’t change the fact that you need a W702BS; otherwise, the Wonderwheel won’t work. (and I'm not shore the BS model can be used vertically; specs do not mention it...)

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                          This is just an adapter to flexibly rotate the original BMW bracket by 90 ".

                          The display is a sep. Topic.

                          Which display can be horizontal and vertical and still compatible with the WW has to be clarified by someone else.

                          A CP or AA display can also be operated with the glove finger not everyone needs the WW,

                          VG Hubert
                          Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware .
                          iPad 9. Gen iOS 26.5.2/ iPhone 16e iOS 26.5.2/ Navi iPhone Xr iOS 18.7.9 / PC mit MS Win11 /❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️ Info zu MRA & Remotek One

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