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  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

    @Reinhard-Punz said in Statement about device limit:

    Ich bitte Sie die Logik so anzupassen, dass man bei Erreichen des Gerätelimits am aktuell verwendeten Gerät ein anderes Gerät abmelden kann um sich am aktuellen Gerät anzumelden.

    That already is exactly how it works...
    No change necessary.

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    @Con-Hennekens Yes, I saw this option a few days ago. However, this message didn't appear today, and my account was immediately blocked. I use up to four devices, but always alternately and never simultaneously. I think it shouldn't matter to the operators of the "MyRouteApp" if I use the app on more than two devices, as long as it's not at the same time. At least, that's how I understood the announcement.

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    • Reinhard Punzundefined Reinhard Punz

      @Lluis-Arasanz I didn't mean to be rude. Since I don't speak English, I'm dependent on translation programs. I'll give it a try; hopefully, it will work.

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      #27

      @Reinhard-Punz said in Statement about device limit:

      @Lluis-Arasanz I didn't mean to be rude. Since I don't speak English, I'm dependent on translation programs. I'll give it a try; hopefully, it will work.

      Perfect, thank you for using translation 👍

      Always willing to help if I can.
      Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
      MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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      • Reinhard Punzundefined Reinhard Punz

        @Con-Hennekens Yes, I saw this option a few days ago. However, this message didn't appear today, and my account was immediately blocked. I use up to four devices, but always alternately and never simultaneously. I think it shouldn't matter to the operators of the "MyRouteApp" if I use the app on more than two devices, as long as it's not at the same time. At least, that's how I understood the announcement.

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        #28

        @Reinhard-Punz said in Statement about device limit:

        I use up to four devices, but always alternately and never simultaneously.

        If you use up to three devices alternately, but at the fourth device added, you account is blocked. Three is the max limit.

        Best regards,
        Adrian

        Samsung S24 Ultra and Motorola Thinkphone with Android Auto
        MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
        Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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        • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

          @Reinhard-Punz said in Statement about device limit:

          I use up to four devices, but always alternately and never simultaneously.

          If you use up to three devices alternately, but at the fourth device added, you account is blocked. Three is the max limit.

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          #29

          Thanks for the information. It's still a shame, though, and I hope the MyRouteApp developers reconsider this strategy. I understand the reasoning behind it and support it. However, if the costs are indeed incurred due to the number of simultaneous map system uses, it shouldn't matter how many devices I use the app on, as long as it's not done at the same time.

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            #30

            @Reinhard-Punz, you are forgetting the part of the release notes that explained that HERE is charging per device. Therefore a limit is in place, and you can contact support for extra device licences if necessary.

            because of new contracts with our suppliers we also have to implement a device limit per subscription.
            As we now pay per active phone we cannot (ignorantly) allow users to use our app on an unlimited amount of phones.

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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              #31

              Maybe i missed it somewhere but can i see how many devices are logged with my account?

              I have a third device (use it very occassionly) with the app installed. Because of the new rule i uninstalled the app on that third device but i did not logged out first. So in theory i'm still logged in with 3 devices. But can i check that?

              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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              • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                Maybe i missed it somewhere but can i see how many devices are logged with my account?

                I have a third device (use it very occassionly) with the app installed. Because of the new rule i uninstalled the app on that third device but i did not logged out first. So in theory i'm still logged in with 3 devices. But can i check that?

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                @M.-Schrijver, yes: profile icon top right, scroll down, second option from below: My Devices.

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                  Maybe i missed it somewhere but can i see how many devices are logged with my account?

                  I have a third device (use it very occassionly) with the app installed. Because of the new rule i uninstalled the app on that third device but i did not logged out first. So in theory i'm still logged in with 3 devices. But can i check that?

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                  #33

                  @M.-Schrijver said in Statement about device limit:

                  So in theory i'm still logged in with 3 devices. But can i check that?

                  You will only be able to see the two active device. If you log on to the third, you will be asked to logoff one of the two available.

                  Screenshot_20260227_164543.png

                  Best regards,
                  Adrian

                  Samsung S24 Ultra and Motorola Thinkphone with Android Auto
                  MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                  Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @Reinhard-Punz, you are forgetting the part of the release notes that explained that HERE is charging per device. Therefore a limit is in place, and you can contact support for extra device licences if necessary.

                    because of new contracts with our suppliers we also have to implement a device limit per subscription.
                    As we now pay per active phone we cannot (ignorantly) allow users to use our app on an unlimited amount of phones.

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                    @Con-Hennekens said in Statement about device limit:

                    @Reinhard-Punz, you are forgetting the part of the release notes that explained that HERE is charging per device. Therefore a limit is in place, and you can contact support for extra device licences if necessary.

                    because of new contracts with our suppliers we also have to implement a device limit per subscription.
                    As we now pay per active phone we cannot (ignorantly) allow users to use our app on an unlimited amount of phones.

                    Thank you, I hadn't actually noticed that. It doesn't make the situation any more pleasant, but at least it's understandable.

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                    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                      Hi all! 👋

                      Next week we will have a quick update to improve some minor issues caused by changes regarding the device limit. So this won't be the "big" next update (5.1) but just a very minor one.

                      Anyway, regardless of that update we already were able to make some adjustment to the device limit logic. The following therefore does not require an app update. The change we made is that if you are blocked because of too many device, we only block your new devices. Meaning the original 2 devices you used will still be accessible. We received some feedback of users getting accidentally blocked and where they understood our rational I believe they all made a very valid point that being blocked out on all devices is a bit excessive. Hence, we've made this change 😃

                      Overall we are extremely happy with the device limit feature as motorclubs / companies using one license for literally 40 people have already been blocked. This now results in them either buying the appropriate amount of licenses or simply disliking us 😉 This is still the preferred approach over raising prices for everyone to cover the costs of those abusing a single license.

                      We are truly sorry for any inconvenience this has caused to legitimate users who just like to use more devices.

                      Cheers,
                      Corjan

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                      @Corjan-MeijerinExactl This happened in about 2015 on SkyDemon flight planning and moving map program for the same reason users were letting multiple people log on with their details costing the company many many pounds. That was pure theft.

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                      • Reinhard Punzundefined Reinhard Punz

                        @Lluis-Arasanz I didn't mean to be rude. Since I don't speak English, I'm dependent on translation programs. I'll give it a try; hopefully, it will work.

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #36

                        @Reinhard-Punz

                        Thanks a lot for you try. I appreciate your effort.

                        My English is bad, I know, so I have to use also translate programs.

                        Regards,

                        Lluis Arasanz

                        • BMW F750GS
                          MotoMediaLink HW Interface for BMW's WonderWheel device
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                        • Cleoundefined Cleo

                          @Corjan-Meijerink said in Statement about device limit:

                          @Cleo your feedback was part of the decision 🙂

                          Dat lijkt me teveel eer. Bij mijn reizen neem ik al teveel navigatie apparatuur mee maar als er een van de drie nog getroffen kan worden door een blokkade is het heel droevig. Die derde is namelijk de enige waar ik routes nog op kan aanpassen.

                          Maar als jullie de mogelijkheid bieden om extra licenties af te nemen, bijvoorbeeld de huidige 2 met 3 licenties uitbreiden dan heb ik daar geen moeite mee, mag zelf op jaar basis als extra bij de lifetime edities.
                          Ik heb er namelijk geen enkele moeite mee dat jullie inspanning ook beloond wordt.
                          Ipad, Prive telefoon, zo af en toe zakelijk telefoon en een om met mijn zoon samen kunnen te rijden is net wat meer dan twee.

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                          #37

                          @Cleo
                          2x Navigation Next om te rijden op de motor.
                          Daarnaast routes aanpassen via een browser FireFox, Safarie, Chrome is toch geen enkel probleem ? Op een iPad, of kleine MacBook Air, ...

                          2x Navigation Next for riding your motorbike.
                          In addition, adjusting routes via a FireFox, Safari or Chrome browser is no problem at all, right? On an iPad or small MacBook Air, etc.

                          2x Navigation Next pour rouler à moto.
                          De plus, modifier les itinéraires via un navigateur FireFox, Safari ou Chrome ne pose aucun problème, n'est-ce pas ? Sur un iPad, un petit MacBook Air, ...

                          2x Navigation Next zum Motorradfahren.
                          Außerdem ist es doch kein Problem, Routen über einen Browser wie Firefox, Safari oder Chrome anzupassen, oder? Auf einem iPad oder einem kleinen MacBook Air ...

                          R1300GS Adv BlackPanther BMW, Apple MacPro 7.1, Carpe Iter V4c, ervaring met TTR550, ZumoXT2, Navigator VI, iPhone 12 MAX

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                          • AWDC LAOundefined AWDC LAO

                            @Cleo
                            2x Navigation Next om te rijden op de motor.
                            Daarnaast routes aanpassen via een browser FireFox, Safarie, Chrome is toch geen enkel probleem ? Op een iPad, of kleine MacBook Air, ...

                            2x Navigation Next for riding your motorbike.
                            In addition, adjusting routes via a FireFox, Safari or Chrome browser is no problem at all, right? On an iPad or small MacBook Air, etc.

                            2x Navigation Next pour rouler à moto.
                            De plus, modifier les itinéraires via un navigateur FireFox, Safari ou Chrome ne pose aucun problème, n'est-ce pas ? Sur un iPad, un petit MacBook Air, ...

                            2x Navigation Next zum Motorradfahren.
                            Außerdem ist es doch kein Problem, Routen über einen Browser wie Firefox, Safari oder Chrome anzupassen, oder? Auf einem iPad oder einem kleinen MacBook Air ...

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                            #38

                            @AWDC-LAO said in Statement about device limit:

                            @Cleo
                            2x Navigation Next om te rijden op de motor.
                            Daarnaast routes aanpassen via een browser FireFox, Safarie, Chrome is toch geen enkel probleem ? Op een iPad, of kleine MacBook Air, ...

                            2x Navigation Next for riding your motorbike.
                            In addition, adjusting routes via a FireFox, Safari or Chrome browser is no problem at all, right? On an iPad or small MacBook Air, etc.

                            2x Navigation Next pour rouler à moto.
                            De plus, modifier les itinéraires via un navigateur FireFox, Safari ou Chrome ne pose aucun problème, n'est-ce pas ? Sur un iPad, un petit MacBook Air, ...

                            2x Navigation Next zum Motorradfahren.
                            Außerdem ist es doch kein Problem, Routen über einen Browser wie Firefox, Safari oder Chrome anzupassen, oder? Auf einem iPad oder einem kleinen MacBook Air ...

                            You can work around a lot everybody has diverencend wishes. If i can get extra licenses and want to pay for it is a nice bussinesscase for the Next app and get more freedom the easy way. More licenses is nothing new in the bussines. But let Myrouteapp cook some nice features and we will see what the feature bring.

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                              I have 2x GOLD and 2x NN 😉

                              R1300GS Adv BlackPanther BMW, Apple MacPro 7.1, Carpe Iter V4c, ervaring met TTR550, ZumoXT2, Navigator VI, iPhone 12 MAX

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                              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                Hi all! 👋

                                Next week we will have a quick update to improve some minor issues caused by changes regarding the device limit. So this won't be the "big" next update (5.1) but just a very minor one.

                                Anyway, regardless of that update we already were able to make some adjustment to the device limit logic. The following therefore does not require an app update. The change we made is that if you are blocked because of too many device, we only block your new devices. Meaning the original 2 devices you used will still be accessible. We received some feedback of users getting accidentally blocked and where they understood our rational I believe they all made a very valid point that being blocked out on all devices is a bit excessive. Hence, we've made this change 😃

                                Overall we are extremely happy with the device limit feature as motorclubs / companies using one license for literally 40 people have already been blocked. This now results in them either buying the appropriate amount of licenses or simply disliking us 😉 This is still the preferred approach over raising prices for everyone to cover the costs of those abusing a single license.

                                We are truly sorry for any inconvenience this has caused to legitimate users who just like to use more devices.

                                Cheers,
                                Corjan

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                                #40

                                @Corjan-Meijerink said in Statement about device limit:

                                as motorclubs / companies using one license for literally 40 people

                                that is one serious level of taking the piss so can fully understand why something had to be done

                                BlackView BV7100, Android 12
                                Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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                                  I had the same problem. Mostly on weekends away with my wife, I use three (sometimes four) devices.

                                  Other (big tech) companies use the same principle, and I understand why MRA made this decision — especially because of the ***** who used more than 40 devices on one account. I really don’t understand that kind of behavior.

                                  For me, it’s not about the money. I don’t mind paying for a product like MRA. I use it a lot, and especially with the NN, I use it even more than before. For me, it’s more about the user experience. I don’t want to create multiple accounts.

                                  So I think I did the best thing you can do in this case: create a support ticket. Explain your situation, and maybe they have a solution.

                                  And they gave me a very good solution!

                                  Triumph Tiger 800 Xrt 2020
                                  Yamaha tracer 700 (wifes bike)
                                  Using MRA next on Samsung A35 & OnePlus & DooGee T20 mini tablet

                                  Drove a Yamaha TDM850 1998
                                  Used TomTom 6000 & Garmin devices with MRA

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                                  • Ralph Janssenundefined Ralph Janssen

                                    I had the same problem. Mostly on weekends away with my wife, I use three (sometimes four) devices.

                                    Other (big tech) companies use the same principle, and I understand why MRA made this decision — especially because of the ***** who used more than 40 devices on one account. I really don’t understand that kind of behavior.

                                    For me, it’s not about the money. I don’t mind paying for a product like MRA. I use it a lot, and especially with the NN, I use it even more than before. For me, it’s more about the user experience. I don’t want to create multiple accounts.

                                    So I think I did the best thing you can do in this case: create a support ticket. Explain your situation, and maybe they have a solution.

                                    And they gave me a very good solution!

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                                    @Ralph-Janssen said in Statement about device limit:

                                    And they gave me a very good solution!

                                    Same here...I wrote an E-Mail to the support.
                                    Got an offer which I confirmed.
                                    Can now use 4 Devices...I am super happy.

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                                      Same here - purchased an additional licence at a very fair price point.
                                      My device limit is set to 4, all good, thanks to Corjan and Lisanne!

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                                        Happy to help 🙂

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                                        • Cleoundefined Cleo

                                          @AWDC-LAO said in Statement about device limit:

                                          @Cleo
                                          2x Navigation Next om te rijden op de motor.
                                          Daarnaast routes aanpassen via een browser FireFox, Safarie, Chrome is toch geen enkel probleem ? Op een iPad, of kleine MacBook Air, ...

                                          2x Navigation Next for riding your motorbike.
                                          In addition, adjusting routes via a FireFox, Safari or Chrome browser is no problem at all, right? On an iPad or small MacBook Air, etc.

                                          2x Navigation Next pour rouler à moto.
                                          De plus, modifier les itinéraires via un navigateur FireFox, Safari ou Chrome ne pose aucun problème, n'est-ce pas ? Sur un iPad, un petit MacBook Air, ...

                                          2x Navigation Next zum Motorradfahren.
                                          Außerdem ist es doch kein Problem, Routen über einen Browser wie Firefox, Safari oder Chrome anzupassen, oder? Auf einem iPad oder einem kleinen MacBook Air ...

                                          You can work around a lot everybody has diverencend wishes. If i can get extra licenses and want to pay for it is a nice bussinesscase for the Next app and get more freedom the easy way. More licenses is nothing new in the bussines. But let Myrouteapp cook some nice features and we will see what the feature bring.

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                                          @Cleo it's an investment the more they can spend money for this beautiful software, the more we can take advantage for nice adventures on the motorcycle in the scenic landscapes !

                                          R1300GS Adv BlackPanther BMW, Apple MacPro 7.1, Carpe Iter V4c, ervaring met TTR550, ZumoXT2, Navigator VI, iPhone 12 MAX

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