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  • paul69undefined paul69

    could someone answer a query for me. the answer may be obvious, but thought i would ask.
    as I have previously mentioned earlier in the thread, I am a supporter of device restriction, as it stops freeloaders.

    That said, it doesn’t really affect me personally. I only use an iPhone with a CarPlay device, plus a rugged Android tablet for multi-day tours, and I only ever use one or the other, never both at same time, anyhow,

    my question is.
    does a CarPlay unit (specifically a Carpuride 702) count as an extra device? My understanding is that you’re only logged in on the phone itself, not the CarPlay device.

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    @paul69 what @Hubert-Thoring says is correct.
    CarPlay / Android Auto is not an extra device.

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      I'm a bit irritated, be ause I'm not familiar enough with AA/CP. Until now, I thought that these devices merely "mirror the monitor" of the connected mobile phone (wireless or wired). So, Corjan's last answer faces into my understanding.

      But currently @Con-Hennekens replies to me, I should not call such devices as "mirror".
      So, does this mean, on some AA/CP models apps can be installed?
      Or in other words: is my understanding correct - does the new rule only counts a device, if "Navigation Next" is really installed on a device?

      Nothing is impossible ;-)
      In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
      In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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        I would say every device that has its own installed MRA app on the system is counted. A CP or AA solution as a pure mirroring of the mobile phone display is not counted...

        VG Hubert
        Info Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware .
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        • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

          I'm a bit irritated, be ause I'm not familiar enough with AA/CP. Until now, I thought that these devices merely "mirror the monitor" of the connected mobile phone (wireless or wired). So, Corjan's last answer faces into my understanding.

          But currently @Con-Hennekens replies to me, I should not call such devices as "mirror".
          So, does this mean, on some AA/CP models apps can be installed?
          Or in other words: is my understanding correct - does the new rule only counts a device, if "Navigation Next" is really installed on a device?

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          wrote last edited by Corjan Meijerink
          #82

          @Guzzist yes, the app only counts installed devices. Meaning it’s an Android or iOS device.

          Not calling Android Auto / CarPlay a mirroring device is preferred because it does not actually mirror your screen. It’s a whole different interface with its own rules / features. Whereas a mirroring device just copies the screen of your phone with all those features.

          But not very relevant for the discussion.
          No, CP / AA does not count as a device 🙂

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          • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

            I'm a bit irritated, be ause I'm not familiar enough with AA/CP. Until now, I thought that these devices merely "mirror the monitor" of the connected mobile phone (wireless or wired). So, Corjan's last answer faces into my understanding.

            But currently @Con-Hennekens replies to me, I should not call such devices as "mirror".
            So, does this mean, on some AA/CP models apps can be installed?
            Or in other words: is my understanding correct - does the new rule only counts a device, if "Navigation Next" is really installed on a device?

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            • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

              I'm a bit irritated, be ause I'm not familiar enough with AA/CP. Until now, I thought that these devices merely "mirror the monitor" of the connected mobile phone (wireless or wired). So, Corjan's last answer faces into my understanding.

              But currently @Con-Hennekens replies to me, I should not call such devices as "mirror".
              So, does this mean, on some AA/CP models apps can be installed?
              Or in other words: is my understanding correct - does the new rule only counts a device, if "Navigation Next" is really installed on a device?

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              @Guzzist Si se le puede instalar aplicaciones no es un CP/AA, es un dispositivo Android o Apple.
              Aunque también hay aparatos mixtos CP/AA + android (linkifun MT23, por ejemplo).
              En todo caso la regla es fácil. Si instalas, suma como equipo adicional, si no instalas, no.

              Saludos.

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              • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

                I'm a bit irritated, be ause I'm not familiar enough with AA/CP. Until now, I thought that these devices merely "mirror the monitor" of the connected mobile phone (wireless or wired). So, Corjan's last answer faces into my understanding.

                But currently @Con-Hennekens replies to me, I should not call such devices as "mirror".
                So, does this mean, on some AA/CP models apps can be installed?
                Or in other words: is my understanding correct - does the new rule only counts a device, if "Navigation Next" is really installed on a device?

                Marinus van Deudekomundefined Do not disturb
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                @Guzzist AA Needs your phone in erachter of that device. No phone no possibility to use MRA. That’s why AA is not seen as an extra device so doesn’t country in the number Off devices for your MRA account

                Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                Honda Silverwing GL 650
                DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                Garmin XT sold
                Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                  @paul69 what @Hubert-Thoring says is correct.
                  CarPlay / Android Auto is not an extra device.

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                  @Corjan-Meijerink said in New beta! 5.0.3 (447):

                  @Hubert-Thoring says is correct.
                  CarPlay / Android Auto is not an extra device.

                  thanks both for the reply and clarification

                  to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
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                  • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

                    I'm a bit irritated, be ause I'm not familiar enough with AA/CP. Until now, I thought that these devices merely "mirror the monitor" of the connected mobile phone (wireless or wired). So, Corjan's last answer faces into my understanding.

                    But currently @Con-Hennekens replies to me, I should not call such devices as "mirror".
                    So, does this mean, on some AA/CP models apps can be installed?
                    Or in other words: is my understanding correct - does the new rule only counts a device, if "Navigation Next" is really installed on a device?

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                    @Guzzist said in New beta! 5.0.3 (447):

                    Or in other words: is my understanding correct - does the new rule only counts a device, if "Navigation Next" is really installed on a device?

                    Yes that's exactly what it is. AA/CP devices usually do not run the software, your phone runs it, to be displayed on on your screen. I hate the term "mirror" for it, since, the GUI is not identical to the native app's GUI, and comes with some restrictions. But the app is indeed run by the phone.

                    To make it even more complex, SOME (mostly car) head units actually do run Android natively and you can install apps on it. In those cases, of course, it is seen as an independant device running the MRA app. but if you need to connect your phone in order to use AA or CP, it is NOT an independant device, and you can use as many AA/CP devices from your phone as you like.

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                    • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                      Die Übernahme des Modell Namen des „iPhone 16e“ erfolgt nicht, es funktioniert nur bei dem iPad und iPhone Xr. Das iPhone 16e (26.2.1) und iPad (26.2.) das iPad werde ich auf Update (26.2.1) bringen, danach noch einmal testen 👋

                      Das 16e ist das hier gelistet „Unknown device“ Gerät ….

                      Gibt es einen Grund dafür ?

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                      @Hubert-Thoring said in New beta! 5.0.3 (447):

                      Die Übernahme des Modell Namen des „iPhone 16e“ erfolgt nicht, es funktioniert nur bei dem iPad und iPhone Xr. Das iPhone 16e (26.2.1) und iPad (26.2.) das iPad werde ich auf Update (26.2.1) bringen, danach noch einmal testen

                      Fixed in the definitive version.
                      Was an issue specific for this device.

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