New beta! 5.0.3 (447)

[paul69]

could someone answer a query for me. the answer may be obvious, but thought i would ask.
as I have previously mentioned earlier in the thread, I am a supporter of device restriction, as it stops freeloaders.

That said, it doesn’t really affect me personally. I only use an iPhone with a CarPlay device, plus a rugged Android tablet for multi-day tours, and I only ever use one or the other, never both at same time, anyhow,

my question is.
does a CarPlay unit (specifically a Carpuride 702) count as an extra device? My understanding is that you’re only logged in on the phone itself, not the CarPlay device.

[Hubert Thoring]

@paul69 : It only affects the devices on which the app is installed, so your CarPlay device is not affected because the content of the phone is played on the CarPlay device. Have fun!

[CD130]

@AWDC-LAO zou daar niet op rekenen

[Corjan Meijerink]

@paul69 what @Hubert-Thoring says is correct.
CarPlay / Android Auto is not an extra device.

[Guzzist]

I'm a bit irritated, be ause I'm not familiar enough with AA/CP. Until now, I thought that these devices merely "mirror the monitor" of the connected mobile phone (wireless or wired). So, Corjan's last answer faces into my understanding.

But currently @Con-Hennekens replies to me, I should not call such devices as "mirror".
So, does this mean, on some AA/CP models apps can be installed?
Or in other words: is my understanding correct - does the new rule only counts a device, if "Navigation Next" is really installed on a device?

[Hubert Thoring]

I would say every device that has its own installed MRA app on the system is counted. A CP or AA solution as a pure mirroring of the mobile phone display is not counted...

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Guzzist yes, the app only counts installed devices. Meaning it’s an Android or iOS device.

Not calling Android Auto / CarPlay a mirroring device is preferred because it does not actually mirror your screen. It’s a whole different interface with its own rules / features. Whereas a mirroring device just copies the screen of your phone with all those features.

But not very relevant for the discussion.
No, CP / AA does not count as a device

[Rob Verhoeff]

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[b0hd1]

@Guzzist Si se le puede instalar aplicaciones no es un CP/AA, es un dispositivo Android o Apple.
Aunque también hay aparatos mixtos CP/AA + android (linkifun MT23, por ejemplo).
En todo caso la regla es fácil. Si instalas, suma como equipo adicional, si no instalas, no.

Saludos.

[Marinus van Deudekom]

@Guzzist AA Needs your phone in erachter of that device. No phone no possibility to use MRA. That’s why AA is not seen as an extra device so doesn’t country in the number Off devices for your MRA account

[paul69]

@Corjan-Meijerink said in New beta! 5.0.3 (447):

@Hubert-Thoring says is correct.
CarPlay / Android Auto is not an extra device.

thanks both for the reply and clarification

[Con Hennekens]

@Guzzist said in New beta! 5.0.3 (447):

Or in other words: is my understanding correct - does the new rule only counts a device, if "Navigation Next" is really installed on a device?

Yes that's exactly what it is. AA/CP devices usually do not run the software, your phone runs it, to be displayed on on your screen. I hate the term "mirror" for it, since, the GUI is not identical to the native app's GUI, and comes with some restrictions. But the app is indeed run by the phone.

To make it even more complex, SOME (mostly car) head units actually do run Android natively and you can install apps on it. In those cases, of course, it is seen as an independant device running the MRA app. but if you need to connect your phone in order to use AA or CP, it is NOT an independant device, and you can use as many AA/CP devices from your phone as you like.

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Hubert-Thoring said in New beta! 5.0.3 (447):

Die Übernahme des Modell Namen des „iPhone 16e“ erfolgt nicht, es funktioniert nur bei dem iPad und iPhone Xr. Das iPhone 16e (26.2.1) und iPad (26.2.) das iPad werde ich auf Update (26.2.1) bringen, danach noch einmal testen

Fixed in the definitive version.
Was an issue specific for this device.

[Albert van den Elsen]

Ik ben op mijn Laptop, Iphone 15 en Carpe Iter aangemeld maar ondanks dat laat de iPhone maar één apparaat zien. Dat is begrijpelijk want alleen de iPhone heeft toegang tot testflight en de CI is Android en heeft geen Testflight optie.
HEt valt me op dat niet de juiste versie van de iPhone IOS getoond.
Deze staat op 26.2.1 terwijl 26.3 geïnstalleerd is.

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Albert-van-den-Elsen klinkt verder prima. Over die versie zou ik me vooral geen zorgen maken.

[AWDC LAO]

De helft van mijn leden van mijn groep hebben onder een Basisabonnement genomen en Navigation next, het zijn voornamelijk volgers en geen planners. En ze besparen op hardware toestellenzoals TomTomRider 450-550, Chigee 5 & 6, Garmin, XT1, BMW navigator 4, 5 en 6 .... wat ook een zeer grote kost is.

[Marinus van Deudekom]

@AWDC-LAO Mensen die alleen een Navigation Next Abo hebben, zijn geen basis users meer. Ze hebben in de webinterface wel meer rechten, vergelijkbaar met Silver. maw geen beperking meer mbt aantal routes. Maar je hebt niet de vergelijking tools etc van Gold

[Con Hennekens]

@Marinus-van-Deudekom, met een Navigation Next abonnement heb je echt niet met Silver vergelijkbare features. Wel krijg je in je basic abonnement de beschikking over de HERE kaart, omdat Navigation dat ook gebruikt.

[Marinus van Deudekom]

Ik had duidelijker moeten zijn. Vergelijkbaar is zeker niet alle rechten van Silver maar wel meer dan basic. BV geen Max aantal routes