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  • Aiello antonino Offline
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    #10

    The roadblocks reported aren't always real, sometimes they may already be over, or you can get through on a motorbike but not on a car. It's happened several times, including last week, that MRA reported a roadblock but then in reality there was nothing on the road...

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    • Aiello antonino Aiello antonino

      The roadblocks reported aren't always real, sometimes they may already be over, or you can get through on a motorbike but not on a car. It's happened several times, including last week, that MRA reported a roadblock but then in reality there was nothing on the road...

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      #11

      @Aiello-antonino Sure, but ignoring them (in route-as-track navigation) isn't really solving the issue either.

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      • Herman Veldhuizen Herman Veldhuizen

        @Aiello-antonino Sure, but ignoring them (in route-as-track navigation) isn't really solving the issue either.

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        #12

        @Herman-Veldhuizen I have noticed the following...

        When I’m navigating online and Here is aware of a road closure, the app automatically creates a detour to bypass it.

        However, when I navigate the exact same route offline, a message does appear to indicate the closure on the route, but the app does not automatically bypass it.19000.png 19001.png 19002.png 19003.png

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        • Peter Zehentreiter Peter Zehentreiter

          @Herman-Veldhuizen I have noticed the following...

          When I’m navigating online and Here is aware of a road closure, the app automatically creates a detour to bypass it.

          However, when I navigate the exact same route offline, a message does appear to indicate the closure on the route, but the app does not automatically bypass it.19000.png 19001.png 19002.png 19003.png

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          Herman Veldhuizen
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          #13

          @Peter-Zehentreiter Road closures come from online information not from the latest map update. Thats why you get different results. Why you in your example still can see that the road is closed, while being offline, is something I dont know. Just guessing: it might be that HERE cashes road closure info (so it downloaded it for you when you were online) or the road in your example is marked as closed in different ways in online and offline map data. The road is closed in both but the app maybe only checks one way and therefore the inconsistency.
          In your example you navigate a route as route. If you navigate a route as track the closure (i think) is always ignored and no alternative road is presented to you.

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          • Herman Veldhuizen Herman Veldhuizen

            @Peter-Zehentreiter Road closures come from online information not from the latest map update. Thats why you get different results. Why you in your example still can see that the road is closed, while being offline, is something I dont know. Just guessing: it might be that HERE cashes road closure info (so it downloaded it for you when you were online) or the road in your example is marked as closed in different ways in online and offline map data. The road is closed in both but the app maybe only checks one way and therefore the inconsistency.
            In your example you navigate a route as route. If you navigate a route as track the closure (i think) is always ignored and no alternative road is presented to you.

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            @Herman-Veldhuizen said:

            If you navigate a route as track the closure (i think)

            Yes, I agree... a route saved as a track should work like that too.

            My point was to show that, using the offline function, you can more or less follow road closures on the Here map as they are (though you should check first whether the closure is actually shown on Here).
            Online, you then have the familiar issue of skipping waypoints in roadworks, and so on.

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            • Peter Zehentreiter Peter Zehentreiter

              @Herman-Veldhuizen said:

              If you navigate a route as track the closure (i think)

              Yes, I agree... a route saved as a track should work like that too.

              My point was to show that, using the offline function, you can more or less follow road closures on the Here map as they are (though you should check first whether the closure is actually shown on Here).
              Online, you then have the familiar issue of skipping waypoints in roadworks, and so on.

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              wrote on last edited by Herman Veldhuizen
              #15

              @Peter-Zehentreiter Is the track saved when I navigate a route as track (its a route, not a track)? From what I understand the track in that case is only created when I tap Navigate.
              I question the fact that the way a route is navigated (as route or as track) should have an effect on how closures are handled. The issue of the topic starter @metalhead was that the app did not provide a route around the closure.

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              • Herman Veldhuizen Herman Veldhuizen

                @Peter-Zehentreiter Is the track saved when I navigate a route as track (its a route, not a track)? From what I understand the track in that case is only created when I tap Navigate.
                I question the fact that the way a route is navigated (as route or as track) should have an effect on how closures are handled. The issue of the topic starter @metalhead was that the app did not provide a route around the closure.

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                Peter Zehentreiter
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                #16

                @Herman-Veldhuizen said:

                The issue of the topic starter @metalhead was that the app did not provide a route around the closure.

                Yes, that’s right...
                But I don’t think this is necessarily just down to the route being set as a track.

                When I navigate an offline route as a route, I’m not offered a detour as an option either – just a red marker on the map – but it still navigates me into the road closure.

                At least, that’s what I’ve found...

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                Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
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                  My issue is two old. First, the route is made through a known violation of the route and second, it kept on directing me through the road closure without offering an alternative. The app was in online mode and it was a route, not a track. I tried to skip waypoints, but could not find how to do so.

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                  • Peter Zehentreiter Peter Zehentreiter

                    @Herman-Veldhuizen said:

                    The issue of the topic starter @metalhead was that the app did not provide a route around the closure.

                    Yes, that’s right...
                    But I don’t think this is necessarily just down to the route being set as a track.

                    When I navigate an offline route as a route, I’m not offered a detour as an option either – just a red marker on the map – but it still navigates me into the road closure.

                    At least, that’s what I’ve found...

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                    Herman Veldhuizen
                    wrote on last edited by Herman Veldhuizen
                    #18

                    @Peter-Zehentreiter Then the only advice to the topic starter is to be online and to NOT navigate a route as track. I dont think it should be that way. He doesnt have this choice when using a generated round trip

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                    • Metalhead Metalhead

                      My issue is two old. First, the route is made through a known violation of the route and second, it kept on directing me through the road closure without offering an alternative. The app was in online mode and it was a route, not a track. I tried to skip waypoints, but could not find how to do so.

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                      @Metalhead said:

                      tried to skip waypoints, but could not find how to do so.

                      Do you meanwhile know how to skip a waypoint or start from a certain waypoint?

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