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  • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Offline
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    Peter Zehentreiter
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    I have a question about road closures shown on Here Maps in relation to offline navigation.

    Last Sunday, I was driving ‘online’ from Italy to Germany via Cortina d’Ampezzo.
    According to the Here map, the road was closed, but in reality the roadworks had already finished; however, the app prevented me from taking the planned route.....

    What happens if I navigate ‘offline’? Will the app still try to reroute me, or can I follow the planned route without any notifications from the app?

    Does anyone have any experience with this? I’ve always navigated online up to now, so I don’t have any experience with this.

    BMW R 1250 GS
    MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
    BMW Connected Ride Cradle
    Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
    Pixel 9 "online"
    SPC Universal mount
    Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
    Sena SLR 3
    Sena 50 R

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    • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

      I have a question about road closures shown on Here Maps in relation to offline navigation.

      Last Sunday, I was driving ‘online’ from Italy to Germany via Cortina d’Ampezzo.
      According to the Here map, the road was closed, but in reality the roadworks had already finished; however, the app prevented me from taking the planned route.....

      What happens if I navigate ‘offline’? Will the app still try to reroute me, or can I follow the planned route without any notifications from the app?

      Does anyone have any experience with this? I’ve always navigated online up to now, so I don’t have any experience with this.

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      Peter Zehentreiter
      wrote last edited by Peter Zehentreiter
      #2

      Already figured out that there is no big difference....

      The only thing which helps, is to deactivate route violation and switch to navigate route as a track.

      Have a nice sunny weekend

      BMW R 1250 GS
      MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
      BMW Connected Ride Cradle
      Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
      Pixel 9 "online"
      SPC Universal mount
      Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
      Sena SLR 3
      Sena 50 R

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      • Lex.Kloet.RXundefined Offline
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        Lex.Kloet.RX
        RouteXpert
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        Or just follow the road and do nothing 😉

        Met andere apps maak je een route, met MRA componeer je een route!

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        • Lex.Kloet.RXundefined Lex.Kloet.RX

          Or just follow the road and do nothing 😉

          Peter Zehentreiterundefined Offline
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          Peter Zehentreiter
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          #4

          @Lex.Kloet.RX Yeah, sure, that’s an option, of course, but the constant reminders that I should take a different route because I’m supposedly not allowed to drive through the roadworks are incredibly annoying......

          BMW R 1250 GS
          MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
          BMW Connected Ride Cradle
          Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
          Pixel 9 "online"
          SPC Universal mount
          Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
          Sena SLR 3
          Sena 50 R

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          • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

            Already figured out that there is no big difference....

            The only thing which helps, is to deactivate route violation and switch to navigate route as a track.

            Have a nice sunny weekend

            Brian McGundefined Offline
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            Brian McG
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            #5

            @Peter-Zehentreiter you worked out a solution,
            it is similar to the way I use MRA so that I get to ride the route I planned, I use offline mode & route as track,
            this way there are no disturbances to the route unless I go off route & the app then tries to get me back on the track

            yes I know this has the disadvantage of not getting the latest up to date road closure/traffic information but I am on a bike & traffic is not really such an issue & even a lot of "road closures" can be got through on a bike

            I do mitigate the issue of road closures, normally at breakfast in the hotel, by going onlline & checking if the app does try to add any route changes before I set off,
            but when I set off the route is reloaded with navigation is offline & as a track

            BlackView BV7100, Android 12
            Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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            • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

              @Peter-Zehentreiter you worked out a solution,
              it is similar to the way I use MRA so that I get to ride the route I planned, I use offline mode & route as track,
              this way there are no disturbances to the route unless I go off route & the app then tries to get me back on the track

              yes I know this has the disadvantage of not getting the latest up to date road closure/traffic information but I am on a bike & traffic is not really such an issue & even a lot of "road closures" can be got through on a bike

              I do mitigate the issue of road closures, normally at breakfast in the hotel, by going onlline & checking if the app does try to add any route changes before I set off,
              but when I set off the route is reloaded with navigation is offline & as a track

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              Peter Zehentreiter
              wrote last edited by Peter Zehentreiter
              #6

              @Brian-McG said in App behaviour when in offline mode at a construction site:

              I use offline mode & route as track,
              this way there are no disturbances

              When doing the same just online there shouldn't be disturbances as well...... ( I `ll try)

              Concerning getting the latest information about traffic or construction areas.....I`ll see when trying the Route as a track.what will happen online.

              Sometimes there are up to 10 other riders following me, so I like to know in advance where the road leads or at least be sure that the road I choose is suitable for the others.

              So far, though, I’ve always managed to reach my destination 😉

              BMW R 1250 GS
              MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
              BMW Connected Ride Cradle
              Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
              Pixel 9 "online"
              SPC Universal mount
              Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
              Sena SLR 3
              Sena 50 R

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              • M. Schrijverundefined Online
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                M. Schrijver
                Valued contributor
                wrote last edited by
                #7

                MRA and traffic info is not the best combination. From my TomTom app i know it can be a good thing the traffic info corrects the route. It "saves" me more often than it annoyed me.
                But not always the traffic info and roadclosures are proper alligned.

                (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                  MRA and traffic info is not the best combination. From my TomTom app i know it can be a good thing the traffic info corrects the route. It "saves" me more often than it annoyed me.
                  But not always the traffic info and roadclosures are proper alligned.

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                  @M.-Schrijver Yes, sometimes it’s a curse and sometimes it’s a blessing.

                  For the ‘Route as Track’ feature, the settings explicitly state that it works best online.

                  I’ll give it a go and let you know the results here.....

                  BMW R 1250 GS
                  MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                  BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                  Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                  Pixel 9 "online"
                  SPC Universal mount
                  Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                  Sena SLR 3
                  Sena 50 R

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                  • AWDC LAOundefined Offline
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                    Our experience: in 98% of the cases, when a road is closed, you can go further with a bike.

                    R1300GS Adv BlackPanther BMW, Apple MacPro 7.1, Carpe Iter V4c, ervaring met TTR550, ZumoXT2, Navigator VI, iPhone 12 MAX

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                    • AWDC LAOundefined AWDC LAO

                      Our experience: in 98% of the cases, when a road is closed, you can go further with a bike.

                      Peter Zehentreiterundefined Offline
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                      Peter Zehentreiter
                      wrote last edited by
                      #10

                      @AWDC-LAO Thanks for pointing that out 😃 but that’s not the issue....😎

                      It annoys me when the Here map shows a roadworks site... even though it’s actually already finished, and the app keeps nagging me to turn around.

                      BMW R 1250 GS
                      MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                      BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                      Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                      Pixel 9 "online"
                      SPC Universal mount
                      Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                      Sena SLR 3
                      Sena 50 R

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                      • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                        @Brian-McG said in App behaviour when in offline mode at a construction site:

                        I use offline mode & route as track,
                        this way there are no disturbances

                        When doing the same just online there shouldn't be disturbances as well...... ( I `ll try)

                        Concerning getting the latest information about traffic or construction areas.....I`ll see when trying the Route as a track.what will happen online.

                        Sometimes there are up to 10 other riders following me, so I like to know in advance where the road leads or at least be sure that the road I choose is suitable for the others.

                        So far, though, I’ve always managed to reach my destination 😉

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                        Brian McG
                        wrote last edited by Brian McG
                        #11

                        @Peter-Zehentreiter sorry my previous post was maybe not 100% clear,
                        when I navigate "offline" I truly mean "offline" as in airplane mode,
                        yes MRA is in "offline" mode but also my phone has no input connections except for GPS & bluetooth to my headset,
                        hence the only disturbance I can get to the path of my route is a bad GPS position or if I deviate from the path

                        re: "For the ‘Route as Track’ feature, the settings explicitly state that it works best online."
                        This may be due to this track display issue https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/66551

                        BlackView BV7100, Android 12
                        Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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                        • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

                          @Peter-Zehentreiter sorry my previous post was maybe not 100% clear,
                          when I navigate "offline" I truly mean "offline" as in airplane mode,
                          yes MRA is in "offline" mode but also my phone has no input connections except for GPS & bluetooth to my headset,
                          hence the only disturbance I can get to the path of my route is a bad GPS position or if I deviate from the path

                          re: "For the ‘Route as Track’ feature, the settings explicitly state that it works best online."
                          This may be due to this track display issue https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/66551

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                          Peter Zehentreiter
                          wrote last edited by
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                          @Brian-McG No problem, I’ve already understood what you meant about offline use.

                          I get on really well with MRA and am really happy with it; it’s just the occasionally outdated road closures in the Here map that are a bit of a nuisance (though that’s not MRA’s fault).

                          In any case, I’m testing the ‘Route as Track’ feature both online and offline… and forming my own opinion.

                          Everyone has different needs, and the app definitely tries to cover everything as best it can.

                          The icing on the cake would be if MRA used Google maps, including their up-to-date information.....

                          ‘We’re allowed to dream’

                          BMW R 1250 GS
                          MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                          BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                          Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                          Pixel 9 "online"
                          SPC Universal mount
                          Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                          Sena SLR 3
                          Sena 50 R

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