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A to B Routing incorrect behavior

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  • Corjan Meijerink Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
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    Track navigation is not possible for AB routes.

    Based on user feedback this is the behavior. We used to send you back exactly to the selected route but if you were driving away from it to another option you would be sent back the entire time until it really started to be weird. Users were even less happy with that 🙂

    So yeah….this kinda makes sense unfortunately.
    I’ll investigate a possible solution somewhere.

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    • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

      Track navigation is not possible for AB routes.

      Based on user feedback this is the behavior. We used to send you back exactly to the selected route but if you were driving away from it to another option you would be sent back the entire time until it really started to be weird. Users were even less happy with that 🙂

      So yeah….this kinda makes sense unfortunately.
      I’ll investigate a possible solution somewhere.

      Peter Zehentreiter Offline
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      #8

      @Corjan-Meijerink Hello Corjan, I understand your point of view.

      Ideally, once a route has been selected, the navigation system should follow it consistently.
      If, whilst driving, I decide that I no longer wish to continue along the selected route... I have to stop the navigation, re-enter the destination, and then I can evaluate and select the suggested routes again.

      That would be a logical consequence of having different options to choose from.

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      • Peter Zehentreiter Peter Zehentreiter

        @Corjan-Meijerink Hello Corjan, I understand your point of view.

        Ideally, once a route has been selected, the navigation system should follow it consistently.
        If, whilst driving, I decide that I no longer wish to continue along the selected route... I have to stop the navigation, re-enter the destination, and then I can evaluate and select the suggested routes again.

        That would be a logical consequence of having different options to choose from.

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        @Peter-Zehentreiter, that is how it was, and people didn't want that. Long time ago it has therefore been replaced with the current logic of an ordinary A2B route: be there quickest way. Sticking to a chosen alternative is contradictory to the setting of quickest/shortest route. gMaps also dismisses your chosen route if you deviate. That's part of an A2B route. The only other option would be to make a track from the chosen route, but as Corjan said, that is not happening.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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        • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

          @Peter-Zehentreiter, that is how it was, and people didn't want that. Long time ago it has therefore been replaced with the current logic of an ordinary A2B route: be there quickest way. Sticking to a chosen alternative is contradictory to the setting of quickest/shortest route. gMaps also dismisses your chosen route if you deviate. That's part of an A2B route. The only other option would be to make a track from the chosen route, but as Corjan said, that is not happening.

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          @Con-Hennekens Unfortunately, that’s always the way it is… some people like it, others not so much… you just have to live with it.

          I disagree: if I’ve selected the quickest route during the search and am then presented with three options, I want to take the route I’ve chosen; otherwise, there’d be no point in having a choice if the app just automatically navigates to the destination on its own.

          Still, thanks for your well-meaning advice and always constructive help.

          I know how to deal with it 😉

          BMW R 1250 GS
          MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
          DMD-NOR7E 7"
          SPC Universal mount
          Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
          Sena SLR 3
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          • Peter Zehentreiter Peter Zehentreiter

            @Con-Hennekens Unfortunately, that’s always the way it is… some people like it, others not so much… you just have to live with it.

            I disagree: if I’ve selected the quickest route during the search and am then presented with three options, I want to take the route I’ve chosen; otherwise, there’d be no point in having a choice if the app just automatically navigates to the destination on its own.

            Still, thanks for your well-meaning advice and always constructive help.

            I know how to deal with it 😉

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            @Peter-Zehentreiter, you're welcome. Indeed it is very hard to satisfy everyone. Hence the many toggles... 😉 My take is that if you want to drive a certain road, you need to put a route point on it. To be brutally honest: for quick A2B routes I usually use Google maps. Mainly because of the much better traffic info. There is no shame in that 😉

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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            • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

              @Peter-Zehentreiter, you're welcome. Indeed it is very hard to satisfy everyone. Hence the many toggles... 😉 My take is that if you want to drive a certain road, you need to put a route point on it. To be brutally honest: for quick A2B routes I usually use Google maps. Mainly because of the much better traffic info. There is no shame in that 😉

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              #12

              @Con-Hennekens said in A to B Routing incorrect behavior:

              Google maps because of the much better traffic info.

              I agree 100%. The up-to-date nature of the Here maps (in terms of road closures) sometimes leaves a lot to be desired, which also causes problems when navigating.

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              SPC Universal mount
              Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
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              • Herman Veldhuizen Offline
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                #13

                I agree with Peter here. Software should not change a user selection without asking. I dont think that tomtom and google do that either. When you select one route in favour of another there can be many reasons why you select that one , even if you have fastest selected. Being presented a new/faster way is great but using it without asking must be a bug. It definitely destroys the trust in the app.

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                  An A2B route typically means: "get me there as quick as possible, I don't care how". I'd rather give up the suggestions than having to stick with one.

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                  • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                    An A2B route typically means: "get me there as quick as possible, I don't care how". I'd rather give up the suggestions than having to stick with one.

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                    wrote on last edited by Herman Veldhuizen
                    #15

                    @Con-Hennekens The app gives you choices. Not just the fastest one. So do google and tomtom. They have thought this out how to do it. But I agree, better to have just one choice than to jump from one to another.

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                      #16

                      i agree with peter. a solution would be give option to recalculate off. i understand that in a2b recalculation is always on. even if you stick on route on a selected route/track ( track if it is curved) in a few situations the app thinks it is off route/track

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