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Adjusting start point surrounding routes

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  • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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    M. Schrijver
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    wrote on last edited by
    #2

    The startpoint you mentioned is something else than a startpoint of a route.

    In your example you tell MRA navigator where you want to pickup the route to ride it to the existing endpoint.
    What you ask is selecting is different point as the starting point for the whole route. This also means moving the actual endpoint (in case of a roundtrip).
    This is normally done in the planner. Which is also accessible from the app.

    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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    • Rolf Engelsmanundefined Offline
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      I want to tell MRA to go to the nearest point on the route and then start the route from there. Should be possible IMO.

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      • Rolf Engelsmanundefined Rolf Engelsman

        I want to tell MRA to go to the nearest point on the route and then start the route from there. Should be possible IMO.

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        Nick Carthew
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        wrote last edited by Nick Carthew
        #4

        @Rolf-Engelsman After tapping Navigate, tap Routing settings and here you can choose to start from nearest waypoint.

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        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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          #5

          @Rolf-Engelsman what you suggest is indeed not possible.

          You cannot select a different starting point and let the app automatically complete the loop for you πŸ™‚

          I do think this would be a great addition!
          Perhaps I can add this at some point πŸ˜‰

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          • Hubert Thoringundefined Offline
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            Hubert Thoring
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            @Rolf-Engelsman
            So I don't find it a problem, just the WP41 as Einstig in the route goes at the push of a button, then just drive the route to the end of the route, then stop briefly, stop the route in the app and finish completely. Now select again and restart this route with WP1 then continue to WP41, and already everything is just gone crazy without making a big find. Best regards πŸ˜‰

            VG Hubert
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            • Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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              This moght seem far fetched for some, but I don't think it is. It would really be nice to be able to to start a route from let's say RP23, while making the loop until you reach RP23 again. I just wonder how that's going to go with routes that do not loop....

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                This moght seem far fetched for some, but I don't think it is. It would really be nice to be able to to start a route from let's say RP23, while making the loop until you reach RP23 again. I just wonder how that's going to go with routes that do not loop....

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                wrote last edited by Hubert Thoring
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                @Con-Hennekens said in Adjusting start point surrounding routes:

                This moght seem far fetched for some, but I don't think it is. It would really be nice to be able to to start a route from let's say RP23, while making the loop until you reach RP23 again. I just wonder how that's going to go with routes that do not loop....

                @Con-Hennekens
                Then the question does not ariseπŸ˜‚

                New users have to get to know the app, many drivers are more relaxed and have a solution either way.

                VG Hubert
                Info Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware .
                iPad 9. Gen iOS 26.3.1 / iPhone 16e iOS 26.3.1/ iPhone Xr iOS 18.7.6 / PC mit MS Win11 /❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️ Info zu MRA & Remotek One

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                • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                  @Con-Hennekens said in Adjusting start point surrounding routes:

                  This moght seem far fetched for some, but I don't think it is. It would really be nice to be able to to start a route from let's say RP23, while making the loop until you reach RP23 again. I just wonder how that's going to go with routes that do not loop....

                  @Con-Hennekens
                  Then the question does not ariseπŸ˜‚

                  New users have to get to know the app, many drivers are more relaxed and have a solution either way.

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                  Con Hennekens
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                  @Hubert-Thoring said in Adjusting start point surrounding routes:

                  Then the question does not arise

                  What question?
                  As far as I know there is no parameter to indicate a route being a loop. It can only determined by an assumption of start and finish being close to each other.

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @Hubert-Thoring said in Adjusting start point surrounding routes:

                    Then the question does not arise

                    What question?
                    As far as I know there is no parameter to indicate a route being a loop. It can only determined by an assumption of start and finish being close to each other.

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                    wrote last edited by Stefan Hummelink
                    #10

                    @Con-Hennekens The app should in this case simply temporarily "connect the dots" so to speak, between the initial end- and start point, as if the user would change the start point in the planner. The possibility of this resulting in a route making no sense whatsoever, is in that case up to the user and collateral damage. πŸ˜€

                    Manks bu'j te bange.

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                    • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

                      @Con-Hennekens The app should in this case simply temporarily "connect the dots" so to speak, between the initial end- and start point, as if the user would change the start point in the planner. The possibility of this resulting in a route making no sense whatsoever, is in that case up to the user and collateral damage. πŸ˜€

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                      @Stefan-Hummelink, The dots stay the same, so are the calculation parameters between them, so there will be no result that makes no sense, if the route made sense to begin with πŸ˜‰ The only unknown piece, is the piece between RPlast and RP1, and in a loop those are close.

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                        @Stefan-Hummelink, The dots stay the same, so are the calculation parameters between them, so there will be no result that makes no sense, if the route made sense to begin with πŸ˜‰ The only unknown piece, is the piece between RPlast and RP1, and in a loop those are close.

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                        Stefan Hummelink
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #12

                        @Con-Hennekens said in Adjusting start point surrounding routes:

                        The only unknown piece, is the piece between RPlast and RP1, and in a loop those are close.

                        Absolutely, and exactly the contrary case, e.g. a a2b route, would result in a complete "turn around" so to speak, which imho would "make no sense" from a "riding a nice preplanned route" perspective. And that's what I meant. If a user would deliberately use this future feature onto an a2b route instead of a looping route, the consequence of having the rpLast being connected to rpStart in a fashion that would result in i.e. having to drive 200km back into the direction of rpStart is up to the user. πŸ˜‰

                        Manks bu'j te bange.

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                        • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

                          @Con-Hennekens said in Adjusting start point surrounding routes:

                          The only unknown piece, is the piece between RPlast and RP1, and in a loop those are close.

                          Absolutely, and exactly the contrary case, e.g. a a2b route, would result in a complete "turn around" so to speak, which imho would "make no sense" from a "riding a nice preplanned route" perspective. And that's what I meant. If a user would deliberately use this future feature onto an a2b route instead of a looping route, the consequence of having the rpLast being connected to rpStart in a fashion that would result in i.e. having to drive 200km back into the direction of rpStart is up to the user. πŸ˜‰

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                          @Stefan-Hummelink, no indeed, that's exactly what I meant of course πŸ˜‰

                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                            We will include feature for this in the 5.1 release πŸ™‚

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                            • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                              We will include feature for this in the 5.1 release πŸ™‚

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                              Great to hear.

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