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The magic tree Points an skip Waypoints during navigation

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  • Westerwald_Riderundefined Offline
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    Have a good ride at all,

    I use actually MRA navigation app 5.01 (a really great update)
    I got a suggestion for a better use during navigation.

    I use MRA navigation app 5.01 and a remotek one controller. So far so good. (both works great for me)

    For skip a waypoint I use upper DC (double Click) to get in the tree Point Menu (...) The first offer is stop navigation. one of the last poinst is skip waypoint![alt Screenshot_20251202_214419.jpg .

    In my case of use it will be enormous helpful to set these Point higher. In fact why I want to use it?

    the follow situation will make it clear for you.
    I am driving as the leader of the group. I don't want to be distracted by traffic and want to reach my waypoints safe and quickly.
    I am stressed (the route is blocked) and want to skip the next waypoint and recalculate the route. At the Moment it is currently in 7th position. In the navigation Screen I can't skip. The controller is not able to do it. With gloves a really bad Idea on a smartphone. It runs or mostly not. So I got to use the Menue with DC the top arrow of my controller. safe, quick, stressless. After these I know it is on 7th. position. Why? I don't know.

    the most important points to call the Menu during navigation for my opinion is.

    1. to see my list of Waypoints. (perhaps a DC on Plus to continue at the selected Waypoint?)
    2. to add a Waypoint with my Controller.
    3. to skip a Waypoint with my Controller (these I use mostly)

    Perhaps my suggestion will helpful for other riders they use controller like me.
    To stop navigation is the last choice at a fuel station or a cafe. All others like audio mute lock screen I can do it before I start.

    I hope you are able to accept my suggestion.

    best regards and good ride all the time
    from Westerwald

    Westerwald_Rider

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    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Online
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      Corjan Meijerink
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      wrote last edited by Corjan Meijerink
      #2

      Thanks for your post!
      DC right button is an immediate โ€œwaypoint skipโ€ action ๐Ÿ™‚

      Easy as that!

      Opening the menu is possible with the controller but indeed full navigation of it wonโ€™t ever be ideal. Thatโ€™s why the crucial features are directly accessible from the controller without opening the menu. See: https://support.myrouteapp.com/en/support/solutions/articles/12000100670-bluetooth-controllers

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      • Westerwald_Riderundefined Offline
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        Hello Corjan,
        thanks for your answer. The DC right arrow is disabled in Firmware 2.1.0 of remotek one to skip a waypoint. the DC right switch now to other apps you can define in remotek software. like Maps, Sena, Mail. It don't skip a waypoint in MRA. DC right will skip to a other app.
        In fact you got to use the menue.
        bye the way a really great presentation of the new release. I enjoy it. and I was very appreciate to learn new things.

        best regards

        Oliver

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        • Westerwald_Riderundefined Offline
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          wrote last edited by Westerwald_Rider
          #4

          Screenshot_20251202_230757_Remotek.jpg

          Here you can see.

          DC right you can switch to maps, Blitzer app

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          • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Online
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            wrote last edited by
            #5

            Glad to read you enjoyed it!

            What if you remove those other apps on the DC right? Will it then send the skip command to MRA as it should?

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            • Westerwald_Riderundefined Offline
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              wrote last edited by Westerwald_Rider
              #6

              Hello Corjan,

              I tested it. And YES I am now able to skip the waypoints.
              So there has no app to be in the main profile of remotek app. The Media Profile is not affected. I am able zu switch and controlling spotify app.
              Screenshot_20251203_093851_Remotek.jpg

              If you selected MRA app it would not be able to skip waypoint

              Thanks for your help.

              best regards

              Oliver

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              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Online
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                Great! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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                • Hubert Thoringundefined Online
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                  wrote last edited by Hubert Thoring
                  #8

                  Hey @Westerwald_Rider ,
                  Maybe that will help you too or Dag will send you an update with the old version.

                  I am very happy with it on iOS.
                  https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/70445

                  VG Hubert
                  Info Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware .
                  iPad 9. Gen iOS 26.1 / iPhone 16e iOS 26.1 / iPhone Xr iOS 18.7.2 / PC mit MS Win11 /โ—๏ธMyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-Oneโ—๏ธ Info zu MRA & Remotek One

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                  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                    Great! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

                    Brian McGundefined Offline
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                    @Corjan-Meijerink apologies Conjan I think not so great
                    IMO one of the great benefits of the Remotek is its ability to use the double click right button to switch between different apps
                    the double click right is the only key combination that the Remotek reserves I think via its firmware,
                    I believe all other key combinations are available but for some reason MRA decided to add the skip function to the key combination double click right & thus disable this great feature of the Remotek
                    I do not understand why this choice was made

                    Maybe I am partly to blame as I was active in thread last year requesting requesting the addition of the skip function for the Remotek
                    I did however ask for the skip key combination to be possibly longpress down (4)

                    This key combination long press down (4) was not a spurious request,
                    I thought long press down would possible be the least error prone/disruptive combination as all the down key (4) does is scroll the map down for a single click & for a double click "Change displayed arrival time (end, via or shaping)" so nothing disastrous would occur if the key press was fumbled

                    I really like that MRA did add the skip function for the Remotek just not the way it was implemented, I use the skip quite often

                    I do not know about other Remotek users but I would really like to see MRA change the key combination for the skip function from double click right (3) to some other key combination so I can have BOTH the great app switching feature of the Remotek & also the very necessary MRA Skip function

                    BlackView BV7100, Android 12
                    Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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                    • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

                      @Corjan-Meijerink apologies Conjan I think not so great
                      IMO one of the great benefits of the Remotek is its ability to use the double click right button to switch between different apps
                      the double click right is the only key combination that the Remotek reserves I think via its firmware,
                      I believe all other key combinations are available but for some reason MRA decided to add the skip function to the key combination double click right & thus disable this great feature of the Remotek
                      I do not understand why this choice was made

                      Maybe I am partly to blame as I was active in thread last year requesting requesting the addition of the skip function for the Remotek
                      I did however ask for the skip key combination to be possibly longpress down (4)

                      This key combination long press down (4) was not a spurious request,
                      I thought long press down would possible be the least error prone/disruptive combination as all the down key (4) does is scroll the map down for a single click & for a double click "Change displayed arrival time (end, via or shaping)" so nothing disastrous would occur if the key press was fumbled

                      I really like that MRA did add the skip function for the Remotek just not the way it was implemented, I use the skip quite often

                      I do not know about other Remotek users but I would really like to see MRA change the key combination for the skip function from double click right (3) to some other key combination so I can have BOTH the great app switching feature of the Remotek & also the very necessary MRA Skip function

                      Corjan Meijerinkundefined Online
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                      Corjan Meijerink
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                      @Brian-McG Our "skip waypoint" function was implemented before they had the firmware to support the "app switching" feature ๐Ÿ˜‰ (I believe).

                      I can extremely easily move it to another function which will simply mean another function disappears. It was mapped to DC right because that is intuitive for a "skip waypoint" as right kinda implies "next".

                      DC down = Toggle ETA
                      DC left = Compass (this one you definitely need)
                      DC up = Open menu (but broken since another firmware 2.x update)

                      I guess we can switch "toggle ETA" and "skip waypoint".

                      But bluetooth controllers do kinda frustrate me sometimes. SilverFox and Carpe Iter communicate their changes but others absolutely not ๐Ÿ™‚

                      Functions work and then they are broken because their firmware changes and other keycodes are sent. Demonstrated by the fact that open menu does not work anymore (or it might again) with the Remotek One.

                      So yeah, if actual remotek users tell me what DC they want to sacrifice (I guess toggle ETA is the only option), I can definitely make that change.

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                      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                        @Brian-McG Our "skip waypoint" function was implemented before they had the firmware to support the "app switching" feature ๐Ÿ˜‰ (I believe).

                        I can extremely easily move it to another function which will simply mean another function disappears. It was mapped to DC right because that is intuitive for a "skip waypoint" as right kinda implies "next".

                        DC down = Toggle ETA
                        DC left = Compass (this one you definitely need)
                        DC up = Open menu (but broken since another firmware 2.x update)

                        I guess we can switch "toggle ETA" and "skip waypoint".

                        But bluetooth controllers do kinda frustrate me sometimes. SilverFox and Carpe Iter communicate their changes but others absolutely not ๐Ÿ™‚

                        Functions work and then they are broken because their firmware changes and other keycodes are sent. Demonstrated by the fact that open menu does not work anymore (or it might again) with the Remotek One.

                        So yeah, if actual remotek users tell me what DC they want to sacrifice (I guess toggle ETA is the only option), I can definitely make that change.

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                        @Corjan-Meijerink I like it just the way the key mapping is at the moment for the Remotek One. I have no need for the app switching as I am on iOS.

                        Kind Regards. Help where I can.
                        Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
                        iPhone 15 Pro
                        CHIGEE AIO-6 LTE
                        Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
                        Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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                        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                          @Brian-McG Our "skip waypoint" function was implemented before they had the firmware to support the "app switching" feature ๐Ÿ˜‰ (I believe).

                          I can extremely easily move it to another function which will simply mean another function disappears. It was mapped to DC right because that is intuitive for a "skip waypoint" as right kinda implies "next".

                          DC down = Toggle ETA
                          DC left = Compass (this one you definitely need)
                          DC up = Open menu (but broken since another firmware 2.x update)

                          I guess we can switch "toggle ETA" and "skip waypoint".

                          But bluetooth controllers do kinda frustrate me sometimes. SilverFox and Carpe Iter communicate their changes but others absolutely not ๐Ÿ™‚

                          Functions work and then they are broken because their firmware changes and other keycodes are sent. Demonstrated by the fact that open menu does not work anymore (or it might again) with the Remotek One.

                          So yeah, if actual remotek users tell me what DC they want to sacrifice (I guess toggle ETA is the only option), I can definitely make that change.

                          Brian McGundefined Offline
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                          wrote last edited by Brian McG
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                          @Brian-McG Our "skip waypoint" function was implemented before they had the firmware to support the "app switching" feature ๐Ÿ˜‰ (I believe). >

                          ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜‰ I believe the reserved key DC right to switch app function has been in the Remotek firmware from day one, I know the MRA implementation of the DC right broke the Remotek switch function ๐Ÿ˜‚

                          will simply mean another function disappears.....what DC they want to sacrifice>

                          Why, does the skip function have to be a DC, is it not possible to map a key to a longpress?

                          BlackView BV7100, Android 12
                          Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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                            @Brian-McG Our "skip waypoint" function was implemented before they had the firmware to support the "app switching" feature ๐Ÿ˜‰ (I believe). >

                            ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜‰ I believe the reserved key DC right to switch app function has been in the Remotek firmware from day one, I know the MRA implementation of the DC right broke the Remotek switch function ๐Ÿ˜‚

                            will simply mean another function disappears.....what DC they want to sacrifice>

                            Why, does the skip function have to be a DC, is it not possible to map a key to a longpress?

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                            @Brian-McG then I might have simply never used their custom app and just looked at the documentation. But still, not the real point here.

                            There are no long presses for the remotek.
                            If so, they need to update their manuals / communicate with people implementing their controllers.

                            With the hardness of the buttons on a remotek Iโ€™m always impressed that people can execute a DC while driving with gloves ๐Ÿ˜†

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                              I use the following old version V1.1.2 which can still be loaded for MyRouteApp users...

                              I am an iOS user - with the Remotek One forapprox. 2 years https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/70445

                              With the old V1.1.2 of the Remotek One, therare two important levels:

                              Navigate:

                              • Zooming +/-
                              • Skip WP

                              Profile change:

                              • APP switching with DCH1 between the profiles with button ( 1 )
                              • 1.) App MRA (Map Profile)
                              • 2.) App Spotify or another app (as media profile)

                              Switching is possible via iOS shortcut...

                              VG Hubert
                              Info Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware .
                              iPad 9. Gen iOS 26.1 / iPhone 16e iOS 26.1 / iPhone Xr iOS 18.7.2 / PC mit MS Win11 /โ—๏ธMyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-Oneโ—๏ธ Info zu MRA & Remotek One

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