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  • Aggelos Minoudisundefined Offline
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    Hi fellow riders. I own about Africa twin and after I got lost in some mountains I purchased a Garmin ZUMO XT2. So now I use car play with MRA always on and also I copy and use the routes in my Garmin device. So as a newbie pleas try to guide me as simple as you can in the following questions...

    1. Which map of mar route planner should I use in order my routes from my route app and garmin XT2 be identical? I put some shaping points in order to force the route to pass from where I want.
    2. What mode should my routes be when I export them from MRA to garmin XT2? GPX 1.1 or sth else?
    3. Can someone explain to me simply the difference between track and route? I saw some guys projecting track with a fat line and route with a slimmer line?
    4. Should I turn off auto recalculation at my Garmin XT2 and if so why? Cause sometimes I deviate bit for toilet or some rest.
      Thanks for your patience and please reply me if possible in simple words cause I'm a newbie. Cheers to all
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    • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Offline
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      Use the Here-map
      Use gpx 1.1
      Route = Calculated between the routepoints, Track has only start- and end point
      Turn recalculation off when driving a planned route, make the track visible in the Zumo and go back to the route via as you can see the track on your screen. or when the route points are on a technical good place on the road, you can set recalculation on.

      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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      • Aggelos Minoudisundefined Offline
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        Thank you Hans I'll give it a try. By the way does Here map has hybrid view cause I like to see the terrain when I design a route..By the way MRA route planner is top I think in designing routes And planning trips

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        • Aggelos Minoudisundefined Aggelos Minoudis

          Thank you Hans I'll give it a try. By the way does Here map has hybrid view cause I like to see the terrain when I design a route..By the way MRA route planner is top I think in designing routes And planning trips

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          @Aggelos-Minoudis
          Yes, see the map layers

          Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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            Dear Hans, I've just transferred a route from MYroute to Garmin as a gps 1.1 file and they re identical. Please can you tell me on Garmin device how to make the track visible? ill turn the recalculation off. Also what do you mean when the route points are on a technical good place on the road to set recalc. on again? Why shouldn't I leave it on all the time? Thanx for your patience

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            • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Offline
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              Go to tracks on your device, open the track you want to edit, click on make visible. Place points after a roundabout, intersection or road junction

              Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
              Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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              • Aggelos Minoudisundefined Offline
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                Hi again , I managed to have visible the track and the route when I put both the track and the route at the same file in collections. Now I see the magenta line is not identical with the track line. What do I do now when I’ll navigate? Can I follow the track line at the points that two lines divide each other ? Or only the magenta line is driveable ? Thnx again

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                • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Offline
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                  The trackline would be the indication if you’re on the wright track

                  Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                  Honda Silverwing GL 650
                  DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                  Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                  Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                  • Aggelos Minoudisundefined Offline
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                    Marinus hi ,
                    So when magenta drives me somewhere else, I’ll follow the track line right ?

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                    • Aggelos Minoudisundefined Aggelos Minoudis

                      Marinus hi ,
                      So when magenta drives me somewhere else, I’ll follow the track line right ?

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                      @Aggelos-Minoudis yep but normally the both must be close to one another

                      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                      Honda Silverwing GL 650
                      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                      Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                      Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                        Thanks a lot Marinus!

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                          You probably use the Tread app to synchronise your routes. If you do, they will always be different as the Tread app recalculates your route. Save your route gpx 1.1 directly on the SD in the XT2 and import it using the app.

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                          • Aggelos Minoudisundefined Aggelos Minoudis

                            Thanks a lot Marinus!

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                            @Aggelos-Minoudis hmmm - looks like, you need to learn/understand basics how route planning and navigation works. May I help you by easy words:

                            A route is a collection of points, defined by gps coordinates and called exactly as "rtept" (route points). A navigation app or device calculates a direction from one point to the next one, using street information in a map. And presenting it as a line as overlay on the map. Garmin is showing this line mostly in purple colour, with orange flag icons for each route point. Mostly navigation apps/devices can only handle limited amount of route points.
                            Very often, people are talking about this points as waypoints; but this is technically not correct.

                            A track is also a collection of points, defined by gps coordinates but called exactly as "trkpt" (track points). A navigation app or device is not calculating a direction from one point to the next point. But is presenting it as a line as overlay on the map. Garming let you select o colour in the settings, and only the first- and the last point will be presented in map. Usage of track points is mostly not limited.
                            A track is usually a recorded file during a ride.

                            Additionally you can enter POI (Point's of Interrest) out of a collection (gas stations, hotels, restaurants, etc.) - these are called exactly as "wpt" (way points). A navigation app or device is not calculating a direction from one point to the next point. But is presenting such points as a icon as overlay on the map.

                            You can save a created route in MRA-Routeplanner as gpx 1.1 fike at your computer. Then open it as simple text file (may by notepad) - then you can see it: in the file, there is the route as well as the track. And if you have entered POI - there are also included in gpx file.

                            If you are using MyRoute-App for navigation, you could be lucky, because this app is also able to guide/route you by a track!

                            If you are going to transmit a route or a track by gps file to a Garmin device, you can do this by USB, copy to SD-Card, Bluetooth or WiFi - based by device type. For a Gamin-XT, I mostly used the Garmin app "Drive" (Bluetooth). But Garmin has developed the system/app "Explore" (Wifi) resp. Thread App (Bluetooth), to be used for future - starting with Garmin XT2!
                            But you need to know: "Explore" is a route planning system and is calculating transmitted routes by its own algorithm. Effect: transmitted route to the device is mostly different to your original planned route!

                            If you switch on in your XT2 preferences, to populate both, route and track on screen. Then you will see probably a difference between track and route (because the track will never be recalculated). To prevent this, use more route points during planning. To not overspent capability of garmin device, use more "shaping points" and less "via points" in MRA-Routeplanner.

                            Nothing is impossible ;-)
                            In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                            In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                              You probably use the Tread app to synchronise your routes. If you do, they will always be different as the Tread app recalculates your route. Save your route gpx 1.1 directly on the SD in the XT2 and import it using the app.

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                              @Guzt said in Keeping routes from my route app identical with my GARMIN ZUMO XT2:

                              You probably use the Tread app to synchronise your routes. If you do, they will always be different as the Tread app recalculates your route. Save your route gpx 1.1 directly on the SD in the XT2 and import it using the app.

                              Hi Guzt,
                              Thanx mate, but I don't use tread at all. I just export it from myrouteapp as gpx 1.1 to my Garmin XT2, I installed an app that MacBook sees my Garmin as an android device, so in Garmin xt2 file gpx I drop them there and they are automatically stored.

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