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De keuze voor de startplek verplaatsen. Move option for starting point

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  • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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    M. Schrijver
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    De keuze waar je de route wilt starten. Het "Startpunt" of "Dichtstbijzijnde punt" is eigenlijk wat verstopt (zie screenshot). De keuze die je hier maakt blijft ook voor deze route actief. Als je de route ergens halverwege opnieuw wilt starten, moet er dus goed aan denken dat je de optie voor de startplek tussen eventueel moet wijzigen. Het is gewoon erg aanlokkelijk om direct op "Start" te drukken.

    Screenshot_20250629-111653.png

    Het zou beter zijn als deze gevraagd wordt wanneer je op "Start" drukt. Dus een popup met "Startpunt" of "Dichtstbijzijnde routepunt"
    Het lijkt een extra handeling maar mensen zijn dan veel beter bewust van hun keuze en de gevolgen voor de route.
    Ik heb het idee dat er nu best vaak verwarring over het gedrag van MRA Next bestaat omdat men even vergeten is, welke keuze er gemaakt in het menu is.

    The choice of where to start the route. The "Starting Point" or "Nearest point" is actually somewhat hidden (see screenshot). The choice you make here remains active for this route as well. So if you want to restart the route somewhere halfway through, you have to remember to change the option for the start location between if necessary. It is just very tempting to press "Start" directly.

    Screenshot_20250629-111653.png

    It would be better if it is prompted when you press "Start". So a popup with "Start point" or "Nearest route point" It seems like an extra action but people are then much more aware of their choice and the consequences for the route.
    I feel that now quite often there is confusion about the behavior of MRA Next because people have forgotten for a moment, which choice was made in the menu.

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    • Herman Veldhuizenundefined Offline
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      Or maybe 2 big start buttons : "Start to first" and "Start to nearest" ?

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      • RetiredWingManundefined Offline
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        #3

        Please, no more buttons and prompts.

        2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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          Con Hennekens
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          You can choose the WP to start from very easily even after you started the route. Just long press any WP.

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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          • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

            Please, no more buttons and prompts.

            M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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            wrote last edited by M. Schrijver
            #5

            @RetiredWingMan
            Totally agree with you.

            But my opnion. A navigation needs to guide you not the other way around.
            In the current situation you need to be sure the setting is correct before you start the route. Otherwise you need extra steps to correct your error. Just because this setting is not always visible (you need to think for the navigation).
            By choosing for a prompt. You made aware you need to make a choice (navigation guides you). Less change for an error.

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            • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

              @RetiredWingMan
              Totally agree with you.

              But my opnion. A navigation needs to guide you not the other way around.
              In the current situation you need to be sure the setting is correct before you start the route. Otherwise you need extra steps to correct your error. Just because this setting is not always visible (you need to think for the navigation).
              By choosing for a prompt. You made aware you need to make a choice (navigation guides you). Less change for an error.

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              @M.-Schrijver a navigation device is just a tool. Like any tool you have to select the right tool and the right size etc before you start working.

              2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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              • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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                M. Schrijver
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                It is a tool to help you. So let it help you.

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                • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                  @RetiredWingMan
                  Totally agree with you.

                  But my opnion. A navigation needs to guide you not the other way around.
                  In the current situation you need to be sure the setting is correct before you start the route. Otherwise you need extra steps to correct your error. Just because this setting is not always visible (you need to think for the navigation).
                  By choosing for a prompt. You made aware you need to make a choice (navigation guides you). Less change for an error.

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                  Con Hennekens
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                  @M.-Schrijver said in De keuze voor de startplek verplaatsen. Move option for starting point:

                  Less change for an error.

                  More buttons to push, generating extra possibilities to choose wrong...
                  Thereby, a prompt is also an extra step.

                  The amount of information visible in the route-options panel in your first post is largely dependent on the aspect of your screen. Some phone show a little more, my Pixel does:

                  dc912aa5-71b4-4dc9-8dda-47183b4805e7-image.png

                  And landscape is really perfect! 😉

                  eb1c214b-52c4-4f0a-b244-8fd6d6c08921-image.png

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @M.-Schrijver said in De keuze voor de startplek verplaatsen. Move option for starting point:

                    Less change for an error.

                    More buttons to push, generating extra possibilities to choose wrong...
                    Thereby, a prompt is also an extra step.

                    The amount of information visible in the route-options panel in your first post is largely dependent on the aspect of your screen. Some phone show a little more, my Pixel does:

                    dc912aa5-71b4-4dc9-8dda-47183b4805e7-image.png

                    And landscape is really perfect! 😉

                    eb1c214b-52c4-4f0a-b244-8fd6d6c08921-image.png

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                    @Con-Hennekens said in De keuze voor de startplek verplaatsen. Move option for starting point:

                    More buttons to push, generating extra possibilities to choose wrong...
                    Thereby, a prompt is also an extra step.

                    You need to make that choice anyway. Everytime you start a route.
                    Did i already say because of the question there is less change of an error. You are more aware what is going to happen.

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                    • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                      @Con-Hennekens said in De keuze voor de startplek verplaatsen. Move option for starting point:

                      More buttons to push, generating extra possibilities to choose wrong...
                      Thereby, a prompt is also an extra step.

                      You need to make that choice anyway. Everytime you start a route.
                      Did i already say because of the question there is less change of an error. You are more aware what is going to happen.

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                      • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                        @Con-Hennekens said in De keuze voor de startplek verplaatsen. Move option for starting point:

                        More buttons to push, generating extra possibilities to choose wrong...
                        Thereby, a prompt is also an extra step.

                        You need to make that choice anyway. Everytime you start a route.
                        Did i already say because of the question there is less change of an error. You are more aware what is going to happen.

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                        @M.-Schrijver said in De keuze voor de startplek verplaatsen. Move option for starting point:

                        You need to make that choice anyway. Everytime you start a route.

                        Actually I don't. I usually start a route at WP1, and the app remembers the last used setting 😉
                        But yeah, it would be nice to have it in plain sight when starting route.

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                        • Bouke Entundefined Offline
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                          maybe it is solution to move up de pop up off start so the option below it are visuable.

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