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    Hello, I have been using MRA route planner for a few months now, I am a gold life member. I have got great results from sending emails to the main office for answers. I recently was told I should be using the "Here" map. I was wondering can anyone explain what the difference in Google/Here/Tom Tom maps are? I have searched thru and I do see small differences in the toolkit. Is that the only difference? Is one better than the other? I am using an Android phone that Bluetooths to my Soundstream radio on my motorcycle. the other problem I am having, She has iPhone, I have Android. she sits on the back and looks at her phone and they DO NOT display the same route. why would this be. I see the Android on my bike screen, and she will say mine (iPhone) said turn that way, while my Android says go straight. We have been in the phones and compared settings, all setting in the phone are the same. Any suggestions? we use same log in, same route...

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      First of all, MRTA does not use Google Maps as 1 of the 3 main maps to use. MRA uses the following (standard) maps:

      1. OpenStreetMap (short OSM), also the standard map for the basic account;
      2. HERE map (recommended for Garmin users), standard map for the MRA Next app and in the online webbased router only available for Silver/Gold members;
      3. TomTom map (recommended for TomTom users), in the online webbased router only available for Silver/Gold members;

      It is difficult to say which is better and which is poorer. It depents also on what kind of (navigation) platform you are using your route. As example, my standard map is HERE. This is because i have a Garmin Zumo XT (for my BMW bike) and the MRA Next app (for usage on my Kawasaki bike). I find HERE good enough for creating/plotting/planning routes. Others might find HERE a map with certain shortcomings and prefer OSM.

      But best is to stick to this thumbrule:
      Garmin device : HERE
      TomTom device : TomTom
      General usage: OSM
      Basic user : OSM

      With she you mean your wife? Does she has recalculate turned on? I don't have an iPhone, i'm using android so i have no clue.

      Check if the settings you're having on your android phone is matching her settings. If not, changes her settings knowing that you follow the route correctly.

      | MRA Gold Member | Routelab + HERE kaart | Garmin Zumo XT | BMW K1200GT | Kawasaki Z650 |

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        If you are using MRA Navigation Next (the MRA app) to navigate your route, it is only logical to plan your routes on the HERE map, since that is the map Navigation uses. If you are on the same bike, and the route goes different ways, just check the Waypoint til in the upper right corner, if they are still going to the same waypoint. Decisions on which waypoint to auto-skip to often have very little margins, so they can sometimes come out different, even when on the same bike.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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          guys, thanks for your replies, yes were on the same bike. Our phones are set identical when it comes to options in the MRA app. I just don't understand if your following way points, why wont they track the same? Your going from point to point...there should only be 1 way. Also its the way I set it up on my computer? No? I would think both phones should auto skip the same waypoints if needed?

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            Can you put a link to that route here so we can check?

            | MRA Gold Member | Routelab + HERE kaart | Garmin Zumo XT | BMW K1200GT | Kawasaki Z650 |

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            • D Griffinundefined D Griffin

              guys, thanks for your replies, yes were on the same bike. Our phones are set identical when it comes to options in the MRA app. I just don't understand if your following way points, why wont they track the same? Your going from point to point...there should only be 1 way. Also its the way I set it up on my computer? No? I would think both phones should auto skip the same waypoints if needed?

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              @D-Griffin, yes, but like I said, sometimes the margins are thin, and phones often do not recalculate at exactly the same time, which means tens of meters if traveling on a bike.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                I think this is how I share a route.....
                https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/11557400?mode=share
                Soo the problem came between way points 2 and 3. My phone said stay straight on Maplegrove, her said turn right on RT 91. Even though I set the map to take Rt 91 it didn't want to.....That was the Android Phone, the IPhone told her to turn right on RT.91...

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                  Just a suggestion from my part:
                  What happens when you relocate the waypount just after the turns?

                  When i create a route or modify it, i place the waypoints after each turn so that MRA Next or my Garmin Zumo XT follows the route i plotted without any strange turns left or right.

                  image.png

                  | MRA Gold Member | Routelab + HERE kaart | Garmin Zumo XT | BMW K1200GT | Kawasaki Z650 |

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                  • D Griffinundefined D Griffin

                    I think this is how I share a route.....
                    https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/11557400?mode=share
                    Soo the problem came between way points 2 and 3. My phone said stay straight on Maplegrove, her said turn right on RT 91. Even though I set the map to take Rt 91 it didn't want to.....That was the Android Phone, the IPhone told her to turn right on RT.91...

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                    @D-Griffin, I would suggest differently:

                    b7411f61-2d7b-4091-8a7c-26dc55ebaf9b-image.png

                    WP3 can easily be omitted of you place the next one (the new 3 in my screenshot) in the middle of the road. Placing WPs near crossings leaves too much rooms for alternatives like going straight over Maplegrove instead of the 91. And in general it is not a good practise to set WPs too near to crossings, since that can lead to directions not being spoken while navigating.

                    What likely happened is that your phone was already navigating to WP4, or even WP5 possibly due to some false start or accidental tap on the WP tile in the upper right corner. That can make the blue line over Maplegrove faster (to 4 or 5).

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      I will make some adjustments and try again. Seems like waypoint adjustments are key! Thank you for the feedback.

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