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  • Alex redsundefined Offline
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    It happens to me too—when I'm listening to music, the volume is perfect, but if I stop the music, the volume drops significantly. Of course, I stop the music from the phone by pausing the track, without touching the volume controls. I’ve always thought this was related to the intercom, which is connected to both the motorcycle and the phone (iPhone). If the music is playing when a notification from the app comes in, the music volume lowers a lot and the navigation voice comes through clearly. Everything works perfectly—until I stop the music.

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    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

      @Peter-Zehentreiter, When I change the slider of the in-app volume setting, the OS system Media Volume changes accordingly. It is one and the same sound channel. When I change that slider while a BT headset is connected. The smame slider does affect the BT volume, just like what happens with the volume up and down buttons. Even the volume change graphic from Android itself is displayed over the app...

      b7aa338f-0349-4744-ac2c-89f55a2a5ef1-image.png

      And when you use the volume buttons to change the volume, the slider in the app changes accordingly, and in menu you show above the media channel is the one changed. So to me, really, the in-app slider has no function at all, since everyone uses volume buttons, much easier.

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      @Con-Hennekens What you're explaining is correct, but if I turn down my Sena volume using the Wonderwheel, for example, the voice prompt from the MRA app is also reduced. However, if I then want to increase the volume using the Wonderwheel, it no longer works.

      To make the MRA volume louder again, I have to go into the system settings on my Android phone.

      Before the update that did not happen.

      BMW R 1250 GS
      MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
      BMW Connected Ride Cradle
      SPC Universal mount
      Motorola Edge 40
      Sena SLR 3
      Sena 50 R

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      • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

        @Con-Hennekens What you're explaining is correct, but if I turn down my Sena volume using the Wonderwheel, for example, the voice prompt from the MRA app is also reduced. However, if I then want to increase the volume using the Wonderwheel, it no longer works.

        To make the MRA volume louder again, I have to go into the system settings on my Android phone.

        Before the update that did not happen.

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        Con Hennekens
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        @Peter-Zehentreiter, So the Whonderwheel has influence on your Sena volume? That's new to me... But does the Wonderwheel lower your Sena or your Android volume? Do you use a Carpe Iter BMW control or a Wunderlinq or something? I would disable it in the MRA app system setting (select disabled in the setting), to deduct if it's the MRA app lowering the volume, or some device changing the volume directly from within Android system or on your Sena.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          @Peter-Zehentreiter, So the Whonderwheel has influence on your Sena volume? That's new to me... But does the Wonderwheel lower your Sena or your Android volume? Do you use a Carpe Iter BMW control or a Wunderlinq or something? I would disable it in the MRA app system setting (select disabled in the setting), to deduct if it's the MRA app lowering the volume, or some device changing the volume directly from within Android system or on your Sena.

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          @Con-Hennekens My Bluetooth connections are set up as follows:

          My helmet with Sena is connected to the TFT of the GS 1250, and my phone is also connected to the TFT of the GS 1250.

          The volume of the Sena (mesh) can be easily increased and decreased using the Wonderwheel (this has been working for about two years).

          When I use the Sena volume up and down buttons on my helmet, the volume bar on the TFT also synchronizes.

          I can also adjust the volume of the music played on my phone (played via Sena).

          No Carpe Iter or Wunderlinq, just BMW standard.

          I also have the SilverFox C1 (but in my opinion, it has nothing to do with it).

          It would be ideal if you could adjust the volume independently in the MRA app. (See screenshot from the speed camera app)Screenshot_20250630-154404.png

          BMW R 1250 GS
          MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
          BMW Connected Ride Cradle
          SPC Universal mount
          Motorola Edge 40
          Sena SLR 3
          Sena 50 R

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            @Con-Hennekens : Hi Con, the "Sena whonderweel" capture the BT Device Audio strengt. But the MyrouteAPP is running under phone settings. In fact, if you use automatic volume control in Sena 30k . Your sena lower down, after and after the voice of myrouteAPP get more and more quiet. In my Car with Carpuride I use the lower power Music button. the voice lower down. But when I get louder the BT Device stearing will not push up the audio of the MyrouteAPP.

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            • Westerwald_Riderundefined Westerwald_Rider

              @Con-Hennekens : Hi Con, the "Sena whonderweel" capture the BT Device Audio strengt. But the MyrouteAPP is running under phone settings. In fact, if you use automatic volume control in Sena 30k . Your sena lower down, after and after the voice of myrouteAPP get more and more quiet. In my Car with Carpuride I use the lower power Music button. the voice lower down. But when I get louder the BT Device stearing will not push up the audio of the MyrouteAPP.

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              @Westerwald_Rider AAh, interesting, I thought that was what happened when I lowered the volume with the Wonderwheel.
              But I've also been having problems with it for the last four days and could only turn it back up via the system settings.

              BMW R 1250 GS
              MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
              BMW Connected Ride Cradle
              SPC Universal mount
              Motorola Edge 40
              Sena SLR 3
              Sena 50 R

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              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                @Peter-Zehentreiter, When I change the slider of the in-app volume setting, the OS system Media Volume changes accordingly. It is one and the same sound channel. When I change that slider while a BT headset is connected. The smame slider does affect the BT volume, just like what happens with the volume up and down buttons. Even the volume change graphic from Android itself is displayed over the app...

                b7aa338f-0349-4744-ac2c-89f55a2a5ef1-image.png

                And when you use the volume buttons to change the volume, the slider in the app changes accordingly, and in menu you show above the media channel is the one changed. So to me, really, the in-app slider has no function at all, since everyone uses volume buttons, much easier.

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                #13

                @Con-Hennekens said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

                the in-app slider has no function at all

                It would have been ok to have a boost function and really boost the audio over the maximum threshold.

                Best regards,
                Adrian

                Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
                MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

                  @Con-Hennekens said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

                  the in-app slider has no function at all

                  It would have been ok to have a boost function and really boost the audio over the maximum threshold.

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                  @Adrian-Avram said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

                  It would have been ok to have a boost function and really boost the audio over the maximum threshold.

                  Boosting Audio can only be done by lowering other sources. It would be great if Google added a seperate speech channel in Android, like they did in Android Auto...

                  @Peter-Zehentreiter said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

                  The volume of the Sena (mesh) can be easily increased and decreased using the Wonderwheel (this has been working for about two years).

                  Nice, but that seems to be an MRA app independent feature to me.
                  Setups like this have already coupled 4 BT devices into one knot. It is bound to go wrong sooner or later. That is what I call the "extra layer of complexity" when it comes to AA/CP solutions. I am an IT guy but no gadget freak 😉 . That being said, of course I hope you will find a solution for this strange behavior.

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @Adrian-Avram said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

                    It would have been ok to have a boost function and really boost the audio over the maximum threshold.

                    Boosting Audio can only be done by lowering other sources. It would be great if Google added a seperate speech channel in Android, like they did in Android Auto...

                    @Peter-Zehentreiter said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

                    The volume of the Sena (mesh) can be easily increased and decreased using the Wonderwheel (this has been working for about two years).

                    Nice, but that seems to be an MRA app independent feature to me.
                    Setups like this have already coupled 4 BT devices into one knot. It is bound to go wrong sooner or later. That is what I call the "extra layer of complexity" when it comes to AA/CP solutions. I am an IT guy but no gadget freak 😉 . That being said, of course I hope you will find a solution for this strange behavior.

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                    @Con-Hennekens I think I've figured out what's wrong and how to prevent the MRA app from turning down the volume on its own.

                    If I set Intelligente Lautstärkesteuerung" to "off" in the Sena app, I can still adjust the volume with the Wonderwheel.

                    The volume slider in the MRA app and the volume slider of the Android settings remain at maximum volume, no matter what volume I set with the Wonderwheel.

                    BMW R 1250 GS
                    MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                    BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                    SPC Universal mount
                    Motorola Edge 40
                    Sena SLR 3
                    Sena 50 R

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                    • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                      @Con-Hennekens I think I've figured out what's wrong and how to prevent the MRA app from turning down the volume on its own.

                      If I set Intelligente Lautstärkesteuerung" to "off" in the Sena app, I can still adjust the volume with the Wonderwheel.

                      The volume slider in the MRA app and the volume slider of the Android settings remain at maximum volume, no matter what volume I set with the Wonderwheel.

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                      @Peter-Zehentreiter said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

                      I think I've figured out what's wrong and how to prevent the MRA app from turning down the volume on its own.

                      If I set Intelligente Lautstärkesteuerung" to "off" in the Sena app, I can still adjust the volume with the Wonderwheel.

                      The volume slider in the MRA app and the volume slider of the Android settings remain at maximum volume, no matter what volume I set with the Wonderwheel.

                      HHello Peter,

                      thanks a lot. Your solution sounds linke a workaround. I check it out. But what happend in my Car? I don't know.
                      I'm just wondering why now? It didn't do that in an older version. Okay there were other problems. Like freezing, hangup during navigation. Or MRA wanted to go home right away. (no joke, it went around the block once, destination reached.)
                      With the new version on Android and Samsung S20 FE it drives me crazy. And my phone heats up. Even though it hangs in the wind .
                      It seems the better way I use my old Garmin during a longer ride. It got a lot of lacks but all navigation command are loud and correct.

                      have a good ride

                      regards from Westerwald

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                      • Westerwald_Riderundefined Westerwald_Rider

                        @Peter-Zehentreiter said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

                        I think I've figured out what's wrong and how to prevent the MRA app from turning down the volume on its own.

                        If I set Intelligente Lautstärkesteuerung" to "off" in the Sena app, I can still adjust the volume with the Wonderwheel.

                        The volume slider in the MRA app and the volume slider of the Android settings remain at maximum volume, no matter what volume I set with the Wonderwheel.

                        HHello Peter,

                        thanks a lot. Your solution sounds linke a workaround. I check it out. But what happend in my Car? I don't know.
                        I'm just wondering why now? It didn't do that in an older version. Okay there were other problems. Like freezing, hangup during navigation. Or MRA wanted to go home right away. (no joke, it went around the block once, destination reached.)
                        With the new version on Android and Samsung S20 FE it drives me crazy. And my phone heats up. Even though it hangs in the wind .
                        It seems the better way I use my old Garmin during a longer ride. It got a lot of lacks but all navigation command are loud and correct.

                        have a good ride

                        regards from Westerwald

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                        #17

                        @Westerwald_Rider I am pretty happy with MRA … just had a 4 days trip in Slowenia.
                        Without problems except the loudness issue( which is in my opinion resulting because of wrong adjustment in the Sena App)
                        The other problems you are mentioning are NOT existing on my side.
                        If you want.. we can talk together via phone and I‘ll let you know me secrets 😉
                        I assume you are German so we could talk in German which makes it easier.

                        Regards
                        Peter

                        BMW R 1250 GS
                        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                        BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                        SPC Universal mount
                        Motorola Edge 40
                        Sena SLR 3
                        Sena 50 R

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                        • Westerwald_Riderundefined Westerwald_Rider

                          @Peter-Zehentreiter said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

                          I think I've figured out what's wrong and how to prevent the MRA app from turning down the volume on its own.

                          If I set Intelligente Lautstärkesteuerung" to "off" in the Sena app, I can still adjust the volume with the Wonderwheel.

                          The volume slider in the MRA app and the volume slider of the Android settings remain at maximum volume, no matter what volume I set with the Wonderwheel.

                          HHello Peter,

                          thanks a lot. Your solution sounds linke a workaround. I check it out. But what happend in my Car? I don't know.
                          I'm just wondering why now? It didn't do that in an older version. Okay there were other problems. Like freezing, hangup during navigation. Or MRA wanted to go home right away. (no joke, it went around the block once, destination reached.)
                          With the new version on Android and Samsung S20 FE it drives me crazy. And my phone heats up. Even though it hangs in the wind .
                          It seems the better way I use my old Garmin during a longer ride. It got a lot of lacks but all navigation command are loud and correct.

                          have a good ride

                          regards from Westerwald

                          Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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                          wrote last edited by Con Hennekens
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                          @Westerwald_Rider said in Voice Navigation anncouncement too quiet:

                          Or MRA wanted to go home right away. (no joke, it went around the block once, destination reached.)

                          That happened to me too... I forgot to disable "start at closest waypoint" 😉
                          (this was in Westerwald actually, Freudenberg 😉 ).

                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                            A few beta versions ago there was a line in the release note that the volume can be set louder than before.
                            In that specific version. The line of the volumeslider was a bit different It was a dotted or dashed line. Not continiuous. I didn't had the change to test that specific version because a newer version was there pretty soon.
                            In the current version the slider has it's usual continuous shape again. And at maximum volume level, the volume is still low.

                            Is possible that this change has disappeared in the newer versions

                            (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                            • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                              A few beta versions ago there was a line in the release note that the volume can be set louder than before.
                              In that specific version. The line of the volumeslider was a bit different It was a dotted or dashed line. Not continiuous. I didn't had the change to test that specific version because a newer version was there pretty soon.
                              In the current version the slider has it's usual continuous shape again. And at maximum volume level, the volume is still low.

                              Is possible that this change has disappeared in the newer versions

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                              @M.-Schrijver, I do not remember the slider's looks changed much. That volume slider just mimics the phones volume buttons and system slider. Some claim it is louder since that changed, but personally I don't notice any difference regarding the loudness of the voice.

                              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                @M.-Schrijver, I do not remember the slider's looks changed much. That volume slider just mimics the phones volume buttons and system slider. Some claim it is louder since that changed, but personally I don't notice any difference regarding the loudness of the voice.

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                                @Con-Hennekens I would also welcome it if it were louder, because at the moment it is sometimes difficult to understand.

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                                MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
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                                SPC Universal mount
                                Motorola Edge 40
                                Sena SLR 3
                                Sena 50 R

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                                  Hi at all, a üretty good workaround for Samsung Smartphones can be Sound Assistent from Samsung market place. I test IT during my holiday Trip and use mra Navigation App in my car and carpuride. And I am verry happy, with it. My better Part of m life means mra is better than g**** maps..more detailed. More professional. directions where early enough and very good. (Peter thanks for your crash course)

                                  Hava a good ride all time

                                  Westerwald rider

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                                  • Westerwald_Riderundefined Westerwald_Rider

                                    Dear MRA Team,

                                    am using Myroute app 4.4.0-404. During the navigation the Voice get quiet, and quiet.

                                    When using the volume down buttons, the voice announcement becomes quieter and quieter. You can no longer increase it while driving. Eventually you can no longer hear the announcement at all. If you want to vokume up it doesn't.
                                    The volume always refers to the connected BT device. The Myroute, however, refers to the volume of the cell phone. You have to stop an navigate to Audio settings. At the next volume down on an connected SENA 30K Myroute app get quieter an quieter. The same procedure, you got to stop and level up in the app.
                                    I testet it on SENA 30 and Carpuride in my Car. It is both. At all devices the same issue.
                                    You should offer three levels: quiet, medium and loud. Or a fixed level hook so it get not quieter. So that the navigation instructions can be heard clearly above the music.

                                    Best regards from Westerwald

                                    Westerwaldrider

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                                    Hi @Westerwald_Rider "So that the navigation instructions can be heard clearly above the music."
                                    I suspect if you have NO music playing, the MRA audio volume will be plenty loud enough to hear clearly, this is easy to test

                                    IF the volume is loud enough with NO music then what I think the issue about MRA being quiet WITH music is because the user sets the volume level that they want the music to be comfortable at
                                    What is not realised is that a lot of music player apps boost the volume so that they can be produce very high volumes,
                                    quiet or even medium volume rock & roll is just NOT rock & roll 😂

                                    If you set the volume for comfortable music then MRA will sound quieter in comparison because it is not boosted

                                    I learned this because I had the same issue, quiet MRA voice instructions
                                    My fix has been to use a music app with equalizer or Replay gain settings so that I can control/reduce the music app volume output so it is un-boosted & matches the normal volume output of other apps such as MRA
                                    With the music app & mra set to the same output levels then both increase equally using the phone volume controls

                                    Thats was the case for me, it was not MRA's fault but mine for using a loud music app that drowned out the MRA app, other cases may be different especially using carpuride/android auto

                                    BlackView BV7100, Android 12
                                    Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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                                      Hello Brian,
                                      I heared music during mra. My samsung is intergated in the BT Stack of my car and android carplay. The media channel is my bt stack of my car. Internet radio, mp3 and Spottify. It runs. Only my native radio in my car, I don't use it. Only for traffic and news. These samsung Audio App, you can Set indivdual Volume levels. Spotify is Set for 75% mra 100%. Internet Radio 80%. So you are able to hear mra Navigation instructions clear, clean an loud. Tested during my holiday trip with capuride w903. It runs perfect for me. A stop? No Problem. Only one Thing, mra has to be started first and later the carpuride. So the stopped Navigation runs perfekt for further Tour. Mra navigate me perfekt trough Hamburg. Loud an clean with music. I hope it helps for you.

                                      Regards

                                      Westerwald rider

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                                        Screenshot_20250711_101340_Sound Assistant.jpg

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                                          These are my actual settings I reduced all for 71% or 72%

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