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  • RetiredWingManundefined Offline
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    RetiredWingMan
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    wrote on last edited by
    #2

    Share a link to the route and make it public and we will try to find the issue.

    2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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    • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

      Share a link to the route and make it public and we will try to find the issue.

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      Steve Jarrell
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      #3

      @RetiredWingMan I did.... click the "Here's a link" in my original post.

      Thanks!

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      • Steve Jarrellundefined Steve Jarrell

        Can anyone explain to me why my shaping point #22 that was created in the online route editor was ignored by the app? I specifically put this shaping point into my route to take me to the end of town so that I would stop at a restaurant first (via point #23), then the gas station (via point #24), then continue on. Here's a link to the route.

        Thanks!

        Steve

        Online planner:
        Skipped shaping point.jpg

        Screenshot from DMD T865X when shaping point was skipped
        Skipped shaping point screenshot.jpg

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        #4

        @Steve-Jarrell are your settings the same as they are in the planner ? I am talking about allowed roads ? When you hit navigate on the phone, drag the bottom bar and check what you have allowed or not allowed there. I think only these settings can modify route while navigating.
        Also you can try navigating "Route as a track", it can be enabled from settings !

        WhatsApp Image 2025-05-23 at 07.46.04_e2ad5f8c.jpg

        Best regards,
        Adrian

        Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
        MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
        Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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        • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

          @Steve-Jarrell are your settings the same as they are in the planner ? I am talking about allowed roads ? When you hit navigate on the phone, drag the bottom bar and check what you have allowed or not allowed there. I think only these settings can modify route while navigating.
          Also you can try navigating "Route as a track", it can be enabled from settings !

          WhatsApp Image 2025-05-23 at 07.46.04_e2ad5f8c.jpg

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          Con Hennekens
          Alpha tester
          wrote on last edited by
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          @Adrian-Avram said in Shaping point ignored by app:

          are your settings the same as they are in the planner ? I am talking about allowed roads ?

          They always are, since the allowed roads in Navigation pass over from the planner to MRA Navigation. Great platform, isn't it? 😉

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

            @Adrian-Avram said in Shaping point ignored by app:

            are your settings the same as they are in the planner ? I am talking about allowed roads ?

            They always are, since the allowed roads in Navigation pass over from the planner to MRA Navigation. Great platform, isn't it? 😉

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            @Con-Hennekens said in Shaping point ignored by app:

            They always are

            No they are not ! Because in the planner I could select for example to use Highways and in the app to disable that, and it changes the route !
            I already tried it ...

            Best regards,
            Adrian

            Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
            MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
            Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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            • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

              @Con-Hennekens said in Shaping point ignored by app:

              They always are

              No they are not ! Because in the planner I could select for example to use Highways and in the app to disable that, and it changes the route !
              I already tried it ...

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              Con Hennekens
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              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              @Adrian-Avram, yes of course you can change it manually, but then it would be no surprise if the route changes. If you don't change it manually in the app, the allowed roads setting will follow the ones used in the planner (if you use the correct map).

              The real surprise in this case is that the blue route line refuses to go to the shaping point, one way or the other. Something I cannot reproduce by the way. The route in my app seems to follow the desired road without problem.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              • RetiredWingManundefined Offline
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                #8

                I loaded your route. I tried everything I could think of, changed options, used motorcycle and car. Nothing I did caused Navigator to skip wp 22. Is it possible that there was s blockage on the road when you looked at it.

                2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                  Thanks. Nothing that I know of. I had all avoidances turned off in the app. That's why I was surprised when it ignored my shaping point. I appreciate you looking!

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                  • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

                    @Steve-Jarrell are your settings the same as they are in the planner ? I am talking about allowed roads ? When you hit navigate on the phone, drag the bottom bar and check what you have allowed or not allowed there. I think only these settings can modify route while navigating.
                    Also you can try navigating "Route as a track", it can be enabled from settings !

                    WhatsApp Image 2025-05-23 at 07.46.04_e2ad5f8c.jpg

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                    @Adrian-Avram Thanks Adrian. I will double check but I'm almost sure that my settings are correct. There wasn't anything unusual about that road as far as I could tell (i.e it wasn't a dirt road, seasonal closure, etc.)

                    Thanks!

                    Steve

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                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                      @Adrian-Avram, yes of course you can change it manually, but then it would be no surprise if the route changes. If you don't change it manually in the app, the allowed roads setting will follow the ones used in the planner (if you use the correct map).

                      The real surprise in this case is that the blue route line refuses to go to the shaping point, one way or the other. Something I cannot reproduce by the way. The route in my app seems to follow the desired road without problem.

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                      @Con-Hennekens That one has me scratching my head for sure. In this case I decided to skip both of the via points as I decided not to make the stops 23 and 24, and this worked just fine and the rest of the route worked flawlessly.

                      Thanks for your input.

                      Steve

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                      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                        @Adrian-Avram, yes of course you can change it manually, but then it would be no surprise if the route changes. If you don't change it manually in the app, the allowed roads setting will follow the ones used in the planner (if you use the correct map).

                        The real surprise in this case is that the blue route line refuses to go to the shaping point, one way or the other. Something I cannot reproduce by the way. The route in my app seems to follow the desired road without problem.

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                        Steve Jarrell
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                        #12

                        @Con-Hennekens The one other possibility is that I am using the offline mode with the offline HERE maps, and perhaps there's a slight difference between using the online maps with the app for testing and actually navigating using the online ones.

                        I thought at first the perhaps I accidentally passed by the road that the shaping point was on, but looking back at the screenshot there was no symbol in the upper left corner indicating that a shaping point was being bypassed.

                        Steve

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                        • Steve Jarrellundefined Steve Jarrell

                          @Con-Hennekens The one other possibility is that I am using the offline mode with the offline HERE maps, and perhaps there's a slight difference between using the online maps with the app for testing and actually navigating using the online ones.

                          I thought at first the perhaps I accidentally passed by the road that the shaping point was on, but looking back at the screenshot there was no symbol in the upper left corner indicating that a shaping point was being bypassed.

                          Steve

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                          @Steve-Jarrell, yesterday I was planning an entirely different route when I saw something that looked quite similar... There was NO road going to my waypoint on the basemap, but there was on the overlay map. I don't know if this could apply to your case, but thought I would drop it here 😉 .

                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                            @Steve-Jarrell, yesterday I was planning an entirely different route when I saw something that looked quite similar... There was NO road going to my waypoint on the basemap, but there was on the overlay map. I don't know if this could apply to your case, but thought I would drop it here 😉 .

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                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @Con-Hennekens Thanks! I'm betting there was something in the offline HERE map that caused the anamoly. I'll watch it closely for a while and see if it happens again.

                            I appreciate your input!

                            Steve

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                            • Steve Jarrellundefined Steve Jarrell

                              Can anyone explain to me why my shaping point #22 that was created in the online route editor was ignored by the app? I specifically put this shaping point into my route to take me to the end of town so that I would stop at a restaurant first (via point #23), then the gas station (via point #24), then continue on. Here's a link to the route.

                              Thanks!

                              Steve

                              Online planner:
                              Skipped shaping point.jpg

                              Screenshot from DMD T865X when shaping point was skipped
                              Skipped shaping point screenshot.jpg

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                              @Steve-Jarrell J ran the animation and it followed timeouts as designed. I suppose if one had deliberately turned and took the unplanned route ther’d have been ‘revert’ options come up.

                              I always figured that if you designed it on the desktop and emailed the route or QR, the recipient’s app would follow your shaped route, thus overriding any settings they have in their device setup.

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                              • MyZ51undefined MyZ51

                                @Steve-Jarrell J ran the animation and it followed timeouts as designed. I suppose if one had deliberately turned and took the unplanned route ther’d have been ‘revert’ options come up.

                                I always figured that if you designed it on the desktop and emailed the route or QR, the recipient’s app would follow your shaped route, thus overriding any settings they have in their device setup.

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                                @MyZ51 said in Shaping point ignored by app:

                                I always figured that if you designed it on the desktop and emailed the route or QR, the recipient’s app would follow your shaped route, thus overriding any settings they have in their device setup.

                                You figured correctly, except for that not device settings are honored, but planner settings are. And of course only within the MRA ecosystem. An exported GPX does not contain any planner settings.

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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