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  • Dave J 0undefined Offline
    Dave J 0undefined Offline
    Dave J 0
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    @Corjan-Meijerink Great release but I think I may have found a bug that also existed in the previous build. Whilst the iPhone display is correct, the CarPlay display does not re-centre or track correctly if you disconnect from CarPlay, stop navigation on the phone and then resume navigation on CarPlay connect after the No or Navigate prompt is selected on the CarPlay screen.

    IMG_1024.png IMG_1023.png

    You can change the compass settings on the phone and/or in CarPlay but this does not resolve the route tracking picture on CarPlay. You can select the 'overview ' button in Car Play and this displays correctly but a second selection back to the previous compass view does not rectify the problem. The CarPlay cursor will eventually go off the screen unlike the correct picture on the iPhone:

    IMG_1030.png IMG_1029.png

    IMG_1032.png IMG_1031.png

    The only way to solve the problem appears to be by disconnecting and reconnecting from CarPlay during the nav session. This problem appears to be fairly consistent for me with the sequence described above.

    I can provide more information if needed, including logs.

    Kind Regards. Help where I can.
    Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
    iPhone 15 Pro
    Chigee AIO-5 Play
    Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
    Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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    • Dave J 0undefined Dave J 0

      @Corjan-Meijerink Great release but I think I may have found a bug that also existed in the previous build. Whilst the iPhone display is correct, the CarPlay display does not re-centre or track correctly if you disconnect from CarPlay, stop navigation on the phone and then resume navigation on CarPlay connect after the No or Navigate prompt is selected on the CarPlay screen.

      IMG_1024.png IMG_1023.png

      You can change the compass settings on the phone and/or in CarPlay but this does not resolve the route tracking picture on CarPlay. You can select the 'overview ' button in Car Play and this displays correctly but a second selection back to the previous compass view does not rectify the problem. The CarPlay cursor will eventually go off the screen unlike the correct picture on the iPhone:

      IMG_1030.png IMG_1029.png

      IMG_1032.png IMG_1031.png

      The only way to solve the problem appears to be by disconnecting and reconnecting from CarPlay during the nav session. This problem appears to be fairly consistent for me with the sequence described above.

      I can provide more information if needed, including logs.

      Jörgenundefined Offline
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      Jörgen
      Instructor
      wrote on last edited by
      #7

      Wow, nice new features, well done. 👍

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      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

        Hi all! 🙂

        It is time for new beta again! 🎉
        This version is all about the support of offroad waypoints!

        Offroad waypoints

        Within the online MRA Routeplanner you can very conveniently mark some waypoints as "offroad". The main idea behind this is to skip a section of road that is unknown to the selected routing engine (HERE / TomTom / OSM). Ideal to avoid roads marked as closed (either seasonal or long term damaged) or things such as ferries.

        The app had no idea how to work with these "offroad" waypoints and just treated them as normal ones. Causing the route to be different than planned 😞

        As of now, the app does support the offroad waypoints! 😏

        offroad_planner.png

        In the planner you can edit any route you like and mark any waypoint as offroad! Just as in the website.

        offroad.png

        If you then choose to navigate a route with offroad waypoints, you will see straight lines on the offroad sections. Just as planned! 😃

        These sections will be made extra clear with a nice dashed line.

        While navigating over an offroad section, some things are however different:

        • No visual instructions
        • No audio instructions
        • Possible loss of ETA information
        • Automatic recalculations disabled

        You don't need them anyway, as you're offroad.
        Android Auto / CarPlay do not support the disabling of some visual elements. This can result in a slightly suboptimal experience when on an offroad section. Do let us know how you experience this!

        As offroad waypoints rely on track navigation under the hood, you do need to be online for an optimal experience. When offline, you will receive an appropriate warning 😉

        By introducing this feature in the app, we now support all the crucial features that the website has 🎉

        Compass changes

        A lot of users were unaware what the selected camera mode was. Not entirely their fault as the icon remained the same and you did not receive any other confirmation.

        compass.png

        Now when tapping the compass, the icon will change based on the selected mode. Also, you will receive a short textual confirmation of the selected camera mode.

        Bluetooth controller changes

        • Support for Remotek firmware version 2.x
        • Fixed issue with BMW Carpe Iter controller

        Minor fixes

        • iPad export option
        • Manual day / night changes from CarPlay / Android Auto changed the base map style incorrectly
        • Missing pause icons
        • Not showing the same warning multiple times

        Minor changes

        • Added a loader in the in-app planner
        • Not including current location when calculating routes that are far away
        • Showing original route just before starting navigation (not only while navigating)
        • Open route from RouteXpert library or activity feed by tapping the image
        • Flow for starting routes created in a map other than HERE

        What's next

        That's it for now!
        We are currently working on a complete rework of the home screen of the app 😏 Expecting a beta of this early February!
        The idea behind this is to improve the visual appearance of the app, less clicks for the user, smoother transition to navigation and offline availability of the home screen maps too.

        Cheers,
        Corjan

        Hubert Thoringundefined Offline
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        Hubert Thoring
        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        @Corjan-Meijerink :

        Good morning Corjan,

        I'm back 😉, thank you very much for all your great work in the last 8 weeks !!️

        A quick question about, Bluetooth controller changes

        • Support for Remotek firmware version 2.x

        What is the difference in the MRA application now the Remotek version 2.x to the old Remotek version. Within the MRA since I still use the old version.

        Where could I find it in the manual at the MRA description?

        ————

        Guten Morgen Corjan,
        ich bin zurück 😉, vielen Dank für all Eure tolle Arbeit in den letzten 8 Wochen !!

        Eine kurze Frage zu, Bluetooth controller changes

        • Support for Remotek firmware version 2.x

        Worin unterscheidet sich in der MRA Anwendung jetzt die Remotek Version 2.x zur alten Remotek Version.innerhalb der MRA da ich noch die alte Version nutze.

        Wo könnte ich es im Handbuch bei der MRA Beschreibung finden ?

        VG Hubert
        Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
        iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
        ❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️

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        • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

          @Corjan-Meijerink :

          Good morning Corjan,

          I'm back 😉, thank you very much for all your great work in the last 8 weeks !!️

          A quick question about, Bluetooth controller changes

          • Support for Remotek firmware version 2.x

          What is the difference in the MRA application now the Remotek version 2.x to the old Remotek version. Within the MRA since I still use the old version.

          Where could I find it in the manual at the MRA description?

          ————

          Guten Morgen Corjan,
          ich bin zurück 😉, vielen Dank für all Eure tolle Arbeit in den letzten 8 Wochen !!

          Eine kurze Frage zu, Bluetooth controller changes

          • Support for Remotek firmware version 2.x

          Worin unterscheidet sich in der MRA Anwendung jetzt die Remotek Version 2.x zur alten Remotek Version.innerhalb der MRA da ich noch die alte Version nutze.

          Wo könnte ich es im Handbuch bei der MRA Beschreibung finden ?

          Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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          Corjan Meijerink
          administrator
          wrote on last edited by
          #9

          @Hubert-Thoring The manual is indeed missing in the German portal. I'll get that fixed.

          You can find the english one here: https://support.myrouteapp.com/en/support/solutions/articles/12000100670-bluetooth-controllers (might need to open that in an incognito browser)

          In short, I wouldn't update the firmware as you loose some features 😉

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          • Dave J 0undefined Dave J 0

            @Corjan-Meijerink Great release but I think I may have found a bug that also existed in the previous build. Whilst the iPhone display is correct, the CarPlay display does not re-centre or track correctly if you disconnect from CarPlay, stop navigation on the phone and then resume navigation on CarPlay connect after the No or Navigate prompt is selected on the CarPlay screen.

            IMG_1024.png IMG_1023.png

            You can change the compass settings on the phone and/or in CarPlay but this does not resolve the route tracking picture on CarPlay. You can select the 'overview ' button in Car Play and this displays correctly but a second selection back to the previous compass view does not rectify the problem. The CarPlay cursor will eventually go off the screen unlike the correct picture on the iPhone:

            IMG_1030.png IMG_1029.png

            IMG_1032.png IMG_1031.png

            The only way to solve the problem appears to be by disconnecting and reconnecting from CarPlay during the nav session. This problem appears to be fairly consistent for me with the sequence described above.

            I can provide more information if needed, including logs.

            Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
            Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
            Corjan Meijerink
            administrator
            wrote on last edited by
            #10

            @Dave-J-0 Could you create a support ticket for this and include the logs? 🙂

            I've tried to reproduce the issue but unfortunately am not yet able to grasp what could go wrong!

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            • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

              @Dave-J-0 Could you create a support ticket for this and include the logs? 🙂

              I've tried to reproduce the issue but unfortunately am not yet able to grasp what could go wrong!

              Dave J 0undefined Offline
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              Dave J 0
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              @Corjan-Meijerink support ticket created with logs. Replicated the problem on 2 occasions with different routes using this sequence:

              • Disconnected from CarPlay by power off or unplugging.
              • Opened app on iPhone to stop navigation but not finish the session.
              • Reconnected to CarPlay by power on or plugging in.
              • Selected resume navigation option displayed on CarPlay.

              Cycling through views in CarPlay settings made no difference to how the app tracked and navigated my position on the CarPlay display (although I could enable overview) but the iPhone display was correct. Unplugging and reconnecting whilst the navigation was still active in the phone solved the problem for CarPlay display problem.

              Kind Regards. Help where I can.
              Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
              iPhone 15 Pro
              Chigee AIO-5 Play
              Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
              Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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              • Guzzistundefined Offline
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                #12

                Great update - thank you very much!
                The Idea with compas is really appreciated.
                Hopefully, now auto zooming in is stopped also (if it is selected in preferences)

                Nothing is impossible ;-)
                In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                • CD130undefined Offline
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                  CD130
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  @Corjan-Meijerink Unbelievable how quickly you made this beautiful update! Fantastic!!

                  The adventure starts where the plans end | READY TO >> RACE 🧡

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                  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                    Hi all! 🙂

                    It is time for new beta again! 🎉
                    This version is all about the support of offroad waypoints!

                    Offroad waypoints

                    Within the online MRA Routeplanner you can very conveniently mark some waypoints as "offroad". The main idea behind this is to skip a section of road that is unknown to the selected routing engine (HERE / TomTom / OSM). Ideal to avoid roads marked as closed (either seasonal or long term damaged) or things such as ferries.

                    The app had no idea how to work with these "offroad" waypoints and just treated them as normal ones. Causing the route to be different than planned 😞

                    As of now, the app does support the offroad waypoints! 😏

                    offroad_planner.png

                    In the planner you can edit any route you like and mark any waypoint as offroad! Just as in the website.

                    offroad.png

                    If you then choose to navigate a route with offroad waypoints, you will see straight lines on the offroad sections. Just as planned! 😃

                    These sections will be made extra clear with a nice dashed line.

                    While navigating over an offroad section, some things are however different:

                    • No visual instructions
                    • No audio instructions
                    • Possible loss of ETA information
                    • Automatic recalculations disabled

                    You don't need them anyway, as you're offroad.
                    Android Auto / CarPlay do not support the disabling of some visual elements. This can result in a slightly suboptimal experience when on an offroad section. Do let us know how you experience this!

                    As offroad waypoints rely on track navigation under the hood, you do need to be online for an optimal experience. When offline, you will receive an appropriate warning 😉

                    By introducing this feature in the app, we now support all the crucial features that the website has 🎉

                    Compass changes

                    A lot of users were unaware what the selected camera mode was. Not entirely their fault as the icon remained the same and you did not receive any other confirmation.

                    compass.png

                    Now when tapping the compass, the icon will change based on the selected mode. Also, you will receive a short textual confirmation of the selected camera mode.

                    Bluetooth controller changes

                    • Support for Remotek firmware version 2.x
                    • Fixed issue with BMW Carpe Iter controller

                    Minor fixes

                    • iPad export option
                    • Manual day / night changes from CarPlay / Android Auto changed the base map style incorrectly
                    • Missing pause icons
                    • Not showing the same warning multiple times

                    Minor changes

                    • Added a loader in the in-app planner
                    • Not including current location when calculating routes that are far away
                    • Showing original route just before starting navigation (not only while navigating)
                    • Open route from RouteXpert library or activity feed by tapping the image
                    • Flow for starting routes created in a map other than HERE

                    What's next

                    That's it for now!
                    We are currently working on a complete rework of the home screen of the app 😏 Expecting a beta of this early February!
                    The idea behind this is to improve the visual appearance of the app, less clicks for the user, smoother transition to navigation and offline availability of the home screen maps too.

                    Cheers,
                    Corjan

                    Marinus van Deudekomundefined Offline
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                    Marinus van Deudekom
                    RouteXperts
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    @Corjan-Meijerink Hi @Corjan-Meijerink
                    When I tap on the Compass the camera mode changes but I don't get a text box starting witch camera mode is active

                    Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                    Honda Silverwing GL 650
                    DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                    Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                    Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                    • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                      @Corjan-Meijerink Hi @Corjan-Meijerink
                      When I tap on the Compass the camera mode changes but I don't get a text box starting witch camera mode is active

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #15

                      @Marinus-van-Deudekom did you tried it several times? On my device(s ) it was also not showed at first hit. Just after tip it again...

                      Nothing is impossible ;-)
                      In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                      In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                      • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom did you tried it several times? On my device(s ) it was also not showed at first hit. Just after tip it again...

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                        Marinus van Deudekom
                        RouteXperts
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #16

                        @Guzzist nope after multiple times trying out still does not show on my Android phone

                        Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                        Honda Silverwing GL 650
                        DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                        Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                        Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                        • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                          @Guzzist nope after multiple times trying out still does not show on my Android phone

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                          RouteXperts Instructor
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          @Marinus-van-Deudekom Are you in navigation mode when you’re checking?

                          b9e0b41b-097a-4751-8440-4f028624e290-image.png

                          Always willing to help if I can.
                          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                          Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                          Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
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                          • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                            @Marinus-van-Deudekom Are you in navigation mode when you’re checking?

                            b9e0b41b-097a-4751-8440-4f028624e290-image.png

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                            Marinus van Deudekom
                            RouteXperts
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                            #18

                            @Nick-Carthew I was not. Now I am, found it, thnkx

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                            DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                            Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                            Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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