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  • paul69undefined Offline
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    paul69
    wrote on last edited by paul69
    #18

    hi,
    the above wording does not make my query clear

    If explore is running and you send track and routes as either 1.2 or 1.1 to the XT using drive app, am i correct in thinking the tracks cannot be seen in the tracks menu.

    yes that makes more sense

    to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
    K1600 GTL
    Oukitel RT3
    iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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    • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

      @Mike-wiruth the method I use to transfer routes and navigate using the XT are as follows.

      I usually plot my routes on the computer screen (unless I'm on tour) as its easier to work with a 27" screen that a phone. I transfer my routes from the phone to the XT via the App. 5cc3c46a-de36-4866-9b06-452417a41cee-image.png
      8373cf83-040c-4ed2-b99e-261a4fdceeee-image.png
      This is not an ideal route but will illustrate some issues that can arise with the XT
      ced92716-ec90-4f9c-bfa3-cb76b68b6eef-image.png
      I download using GPX1.1 because this shows how you shaped the route using MRA and allows you to fix a route that does not go where you want on the XT. I also download the track of the route which will be as planned in MRA.
      a693615c-8ad5-4053-9d6b-1f1d218ac020-image.png
      18ac4979-1118-4bb7-a761-7c5c64cba8d5-image.png

      Route Received
      c7acc4d1-fc0d-43dc-ab25-19170a267ed7-17707[1].png

      Track Received
      e4f6a43b-a21c-4d68-826f-a95d84e17ce2-17294[2].png
      3fc9385f-e0f3-468a-b15c-2c9dadf17506-20128[1].png

      Open Trip planner route will be in list.
      b2606866-876d-46c6-9e46-dd3225dfd821-image.png

      Track is in list.
      15a4ec15-5c53-42c8-8367-28d0c6086a55-image.png

      Open Route (Address near my house removed)
      0a4e21e7-294d-4340-afb9-fcb8d05c3027-image.png

      Open Track Default is blue but I change the colour to yellow.
      ba1b8f79-1756-4191-a27d-aca5296c87b1-31106[1].png

      Open the route and Track and make the track visible on the XT
      401edf8a-d088-40ed-b251-c9b2aa2188cc-36293[1].png

      You can see that I wanted to go along the coast but the XT's routing logic is taking me back to a town and then back to the intended route as designed. This can be fixed by putting in an extra shaping point in the XT.

      1f227e02-3dfa-4225-80c1-d45a27ea51ea-40542[1].png

      7a73806a-1dac-4fe7-9b33-338490ffaa9f-image.png

      Or by ensuring there are enough waypoints in the route you designed in MRA.
      I created a bespoke map theme for my XT that makes the Track line thicker and this can be seen below the route line even when navigating. It gives a heads up if the XT is going away from your intended route. I keep recalculate on the unit as "Prompted" and only use recalculate if I can't navigate back to my intended route using the screen.

      Reinhard-32undefined Offline
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      Reinhard-32
      wrote on last edited by
      #19

      @Mzokk I do so in the same manner and it works fine.

      Kindly regards
      Reinhard

      ZumoXT, Zumo 590, Montana 700i and Mac

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      • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

        @Mike-wiruth the method I use to transfer routes and navigate using the XT are as follows.

        I usually plot my routes on the computer screen (unless I'm on tour) as its easier to work with a 27" screen that a phone. I transfer my routes from the phone to the XT via the App. 5cc3c46a-de36-4866-9b06-452417a41cee-image.png
        8373cf83-040c-4ed2-b99e-261a4fdceeee-image.png
        This is not an ideal route but will illustrate some issues that can arise with the XT
        ced92716-ec90-4f9c-bfa3-cb76b68b6eef-image.png
        I download using GPX1.1 because this shows how you shaped the route using MRA and allows you to fix a route that does not go where you want on the XT. I also download the track of the route which will be as planned in MRA.
        a693615c-8ad5-4053-9d6b-1f1d218ac020-image.png
        18ac4979-1118-4bb7-a761-7c5c64cba8d5-image.png

        Route Received
        c7acc4d1-fc0d-43dc-ab25-19170a267ed7-17707[1].png

        Track Received
        e4f6a43b-a21c-4d68-826f-a95d84e17ce2-17294[2].png
        3fc9385f-e0f3-468a-b15c-2c9dadf17506-20128[1].png

        Open Trip planner route will be in list.
        b2606866-876d-46c6-9e46-dd3225dfd821-image.png

        Track is in list.
        15a4ec15-5c53-42c8-8367-28d0c6086a55-image.png

        Open Route (Address near my house removed)
        0a4e21e7-294d-4340-afb9-fcb8d05c3027-image.png

        Open Track Default is blue but I change the colour to yellow.
        ba1b8f79-1756-4191-a27d-aca5296c87b1-31106[1].png

        Open the route and Track and make the track visible on the XT
        401edf8a-d088-40ed-b251-c9b2aa2188cc-36293[1].png

        You can see that I wanted to go along the coast but the XT's routing logic is taking me back to a town and then back to the intended route as designed. This can be fixed by putting in an extra shaping point in the XT.

        1f227e02-3dfa-4225-80c1-d45a27ea51ea-40542[1].png

        7a73806a-1dac-4fe7-9b33-338490ffaa9f-image.png

        Or by ensuring there are enough waypoints in the route you designed in MRA.
        I created a bespoke map theme for my XT that makes the Track line thicker and this can be seen below the route line even when navigating. It gives a heads up if the XT is going away from your intended route. I keep recalculate on the unit as "Prompted" and only use recalculate if I can't navigate back to my intended route using the screen.

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        paul69
        wrote on last edited by
        #20

        @Mzokk said in help with Garmin Zumo XT:

        I created a bespoke map theme for my XT that makes the Track line thicker and this can be seen below the route line

        i did this too, it was brilliant way to see if the route had gone off somewhere else, instantly noticeable

        to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
        K1600 GTL
        Oukitel RT3
        iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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        • paul69undefined paul69

          @Mzokk said in help with Garmin Zumo XT:

          Track is in list.

          please correct me if i am wrong, as i have not had an XT for some time now
          but off memory, you would not be able to see the track in the tracks menu if explore was running, hence why i posted the link to thread explaining how to remove explore.

          but I am only guessing from memeory as I do not have an XT, so maybe my input is pointless

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          Mzokk
          wrote on last edited by Mzokk
          #21

          @paul69 I don't use explore so the XT reverts to the old Garmin method of displaying a track by ticking it in the menu. The Drive app works fine without explore being installed on your phone or linked to your XT unit.

          04524e83-328d-485e-89f2-0d7231c0ff0c-7452[1].png

          You obviously have to manually untick the track when you have finished using it.

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          • paul69undefined paul69

            @Mzokk said in help with Garmin Zumo XT:

            Track is in list.

            please correct me if i am wrong, as i have not had an XT for some time now
            but off memory, you would not be able to see the track in the tracks menu if explore was running, hence why i posted the link to thread explaining how to remove explore.

            but I am only guessing from memeory as I do not have an XT, so maybe my input is pointless

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            Mzokk
            wrote on last edited by
            #22

            @paul69 I am thinking of going down the route of using MRA for navigation as well as route planning. Sometimes the testing gets a bit ridiculous.

            IMG_20240814_123645288_HDR.jpg

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            • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

              @paul69 I am thinking of going down the route of using MRA for navigation as well as route planning. Sometimes the testing gets a bit ridiculous.

              IMG_20240814_123645288_HDR.jpg

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              paul69
              wrote on last edited by
              #23

              @Mzokk
              🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

              to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
              K1600 GTL
              Oukitel RT3
              iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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              • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

                @paul69 I don't use explore so the XT reverts to the old Garmin method of displaying a track by ticking it in the menu. The Drive app works fine without explore being installed on your phone or linked to your XT unit.

                04524e83-328d-485e-89f2-0d7231c0ff0c-7452[1].png

                You obviously have to manually untick the track when you have finished using it.

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                paul69
                wrote on last edited by paul69
                #24

                @Mzokk
                this is what i have been trying to explain to people, you do not get this option with explore activated.

                replied to this a bit late, but never mind

                for those looking in, this refers to 3 posts above this one

                to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                K1600 GTL
                Oukitel RT3
                iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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                • paul69undefined paul69

                  hi @Mike-wiruth

                  just found this which was written by the font of knowledge on the zumo forum explaining how to get rid of explore.

                  https://www.zumouserforums.co.uk/app.php/ZXT-P56

                  this is also has an effect on viewing the routes/tracks in the XT menus, but thankfully i do not have to put up with the nuances of the XT any longer thanks to MRA

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                  Mike wiruth
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #25

                  @paul69 Paul, thanks very much. I went to the link and followed the instructions and got rid of explore on my xt. I also signed up for the zumo forum. This should be a great place to get more zumo related answers. Thanks again for your help.

                  Mike W
                  2013 Honda Goldwing
                  Bushtec Trailer
                  Garmin Zumo XT
                  Nebraska
                  youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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                  • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

                    @Mike-wiruth the method I use to transfer routes and navigate using the XT are as follows.

                    I usually plot my routes on the computer screen (unless I'm on tour) as its easier to work with a 27" screen that a phone. I transfer my routes from the phone to the XT via the App. 5cc3c46a-de36-4866-9b06-452417a41cee-image.png
                    8373cf83-040c-4ed2-b99e-261a4fdceeee-image.png
                    This is not an ideal route but will illustrate some issues that can arise with the XT
                    ced92716-ec90-4f9c-bfa3-cb76b68b6eef-image.png
                    I download using GPX1.1 because this shows how you shaped the route using MRA and allows you to fix a route that does not go where you want on the XT. I also download the track of the route which will be as planned in MRA.
                    a693615c-8ad5-4053-9d6b-1f1d218ac020-image.png
                    18ac4979-1118-4bb7-a761-7c5c64cba8d5-image.png

                    Route Received
                    c7acc4d1-fc0d-43dc-ab25-19170a267ed7-17707[1].png

                    Track Received
                    e4f6a43b-a21c-4d68-826f-a95d84e17ce2-17294[2].png
                    3fc9385f-e0f3-468a-b15c-2c9dadf17506-20128[1].png

                    Open Trip planner route will be in list.
                    b2606866-876d-46c6-9e46-dd3225dfd821-image.png

                    Track is in list.
                    15a4ec15-5c53-42c8-8367-28d0c6086a55-image.png

                    Open Route (Address near my house removed)
                    0a4e21e7-294d-4340-afb9-fcb8d05c3027-image.png

                    Open Track Default is blue but I change the colour to yellow.
                    ba1b8f79-1756-4191-a27d-aca5296c87b1-31106[1].png

                    Open the route and Track and make the track visible on the XT
                    401edf8a-d088-40ed-b251-c9b2aa2188cc-36293[1].png

                    You can see that I wanted to go along the coast but the XT's routing logic is taking me back to a town and then back to the intended route as designed. This can be fixed by putting in an extra shaping point in the XT.

                    1f227e02-3dfa-4225-80c1-d45a27ea51ea-40542[1].png

                    7a73806a-1dac-4fe7-9b33-338490ffaa9f-image.png

                    Or by ensuring there are enough waypoints in the route you designed in MRA.
                    I created a bespoke map theme for my XT that makes the Track line thicker and this can be seen below the route line even when navigating. It gives a heads up if the XT is going away from your intended route. I keep recalculate on the unit as "Prompted" and only use recalculate if I can't navigate back to my intended route using the screen.

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                    Mike wiruth
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #26

                    @Mzokk So how do you display both the track and the route? I checked my xt and went to trip planner and opened up the trip I designed. Then what do you do? Go back and open the track too? When I downloaded it I chose gpx 1.2 route, track, poi

                    Mike W
                    2013 Honda Goldwing
                    Bushtec Trailer
                    Garmin Zumo XT
                    Nebraska
                    youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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                    • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

                      @Mike-wiruth the method I use to transfer routes and navigate using the XT are as follows.

                      I usually plot my routes on the computer screen (unless I'm on tour) as its easier to work with a 27" screen that a phone. I transfer my routes from the phone to the XT via the App. 5cc3c46a-de36-4866-9b06-452417a41cee-image.png
                      8373cf83-040c-4ed2-b99e-261a4fdceeee-image.png
                      This is not an ideal route but will illustrate some issues that can arise with the XT
                      ced92716-ec90-4f9c-bfa3-cb76b68b6eef-image.png
                      I download using GPX1.1 because this shows how you shaped the route using MRA and allows you to fix a route that does not go where you want on the XT. I also download the track of the route which will be as planned in MRA.
                      a693615c-8ad5-4053-9d6b-1f1d218ac020-image.png
                      18ac4979-1118-4bb7-a761-7c5c64cba8d5-image.png

                      Route Received
                      c7acc4d1-fc0d-43dc-ab25-19170a267ed7-17707[1].png

                      Track Received
                      e4f6a43b-a21c-4d68-826f-a95d84e17ce2-17294[2].png
                      3fc9385f-e0f3-468a-b15c-2c9dadf17506-20128[1].png

                      Open Trip planner route will be in list.
                      b2606866-876d-46c6-9e46-dd3225dfd821-image.png

                      Track is in list.
                      15a4ec15-5c53-42c8-8367-28d0c6086a55-image.png

                      Open Route (Address near my house removed)
                      0a4e21e7-294d-4340-afb9-fcb8d05c3027-image.png

                      Open Track Default is blue but I change the colour to yellow.
                      ba1b8f79-1756-4191-a27d-aca5296c87b1-31106[1].png

                      Open the route and Track and make the track visible on the XT
                      401edf8a-d088-40ed-b251-c9b2aa2188cc-36293[1].png

                      You can see that I wanted to go along the coast but the XT's routing logic is taking me back to a town and then back to the intended route as designed. This can be fixed by putting in an extra shaping point in the XT.

                      1f227e02-3dfa-4225-80c1-d45a27ea51ea-40542[1].png

                      7a73806a-1dac-4fe7-9b33-338490ffaa9f-image.png

                      Or by ensuring there are enough waypoints in the route you designed in MRA.
                      I created a bespoke map theme for my XT that makes the Track line thicker and this can be seen below the route line even when navigating. It gives a heads up if the XT is going away from your intended route. I keep recalculate on the unit as "Prompted" and only use recalculate if I can't navigate back to my intended route using the screen.

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                      Mike wiruth
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #27

                      @Mzokk Also where in settings do you change the color of routes and tracks? Also, how did you get those great screen shots of your xt screen? Thanks for all your hard work of posting this reply. Great work. I was a great help. You might regret it though, I'm a learner, always wanting to learn more and I might burden you with questions. LOL

                      Mike W
                      2013 Honda Goldwing
                      Bushtec Trailer
                      Garmin Zumo XT
                      Nebraska
                      youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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                      • Mike wiruthundefined Mike wiruth

                        @Mzokk Also where in settings do you change the color of routes and tracks? Also, how did you get those great screen shots of your xt screen? Thanks for all your hard work of posting this reply. Great work. I was a great help. You might regret it though, I'm a learner, always wanting to learn more and I might burden you with questions. LOL

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #28

                        @Mike-wiruth of you got rid of explore in your XT in the settings you can choose to display any track and choose the with and color.
                        They are display under your route so is you go of route it's instantly visible

                        Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                        Honda Silverwing GL 650
                        DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                        Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                        Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                        • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                          @Mike-wiruth of you got rid of explore in your XT in the settings you can choose to display any track and choose the with and color.
                          They are display under your route so is you go of route it's instantly visible

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                          Mike wiruth
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #29

                          @Marinus-van-Deudekom How do you do it? I can't seem to open them both up at the same time. Also, need to know where to go to change the color of the track. Thanks for any help you can give me.

                          Mike W
                          2013 Honda Goldwing
                          Bushtec Trailer
                          Garmin Zumo XT
                          Nebraska
                          youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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                          • Mike wiruthundefined Mike wiruth

                            @Marinus-van-Deudekom How do you do it? I can't seem to open them both up at the same time. Also, need to know where to go to change the color of the track. Thanks for any help you can give me.

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                            Mzokk
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #30

                            @Mike-wiruth Hi Mike if you go into tracks this is the sequence.
                            19366[1].png

                            Open Tracks
                            20875[1].png

                            Click on the spanner to show the track on the map. This stays on until you unclick it even if you are not navigating.
                            24913[1].png
                            To change colour and width of the track you click on the spanner and scroll to the menu Item

                            21880[1].png

                            22384[2].png

                            23694[1].png

                            So you can set up the track of the route you intend to run at any time and the track will stay until you untick it.

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                            • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

                              @Mike-wiruth Hi Mike if you go into tracks this is the sequence.
                              19366[1].png

                              Open Tracks
                              20875[1].png

                              Click on the spanner to show the track on the map. This stays on until you unclick it even if you are not navigating.
                              24913[1].png
                              To change colour and width of the track you click on the spanner and scroll to the menu Item

                              21880[1].png

                              22384[2].png

                              23694[1].png

                              So you can set up the track of the route you intend to run at any time and the track will stay until you untick it.

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                              Mike wiruth
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #31

                              @Mzokk Great, thanks for those steps. When you set the properties of the track, to see both at once, do you have to Start the track, then back out and start the route? I looked at the route, and when I first looked at it I could see what looked like the track on the outside of the route, I made the track the widest and color in red. But, when I zoomed in, I couldn't see the track anymore. But, I guess the good news is the track was the same as the route. No deviation.

                              Mike W
                              2013 Honda Goldwing
                              Bushtec Trailer
                              Garmin Zumo XT
                              Nebraska
                              youTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@mrjawmaster5854

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