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Issues, system automatically skipping waypoints and therefore changing the whole route

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  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

    @Jörgen-Johansson, That's of course true, but I would like to stress that you are as much fully in control with the auto-skipp setting enabled as well. The function does not limit control by manual intervention in any way.

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    @Con-Hennekens Hi! I have (still after the update) experienced issues in two occasions when the app skips several shaping/via/waypoints when leaving the route for an unplanned newly discovered coffee shop. Hence my comment on the manual setting.

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    • Jörgen Johanssonundefined Jörgen Johansson

      @Con-Hennekens Hi! I have (still after the update) experienced issues in two occasions when the app skips several shaping/via/waypoints when leaving the route for an unplanned newly discovered coffee shop. Hence my comment on the manual setting.

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      Rob Verhoeff
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      @Jörgen-Johansson said in Issues, system automatically skipping waypoints and therefore changing the whole route:

      experienced issues in two occasions when the app skips several shaping/via/waypoints when leaving the route

      Are you sure about the via points? They are never skipped automatically!

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      • Jörgen Johanssonundefined Jörgen Johansson

        @Con-Hennekens Hi! I have (still after the update) experienced issues in two occasions when the app skips several shaping/via/waypoints when leaving the route for an unplanned newly discovered coffee shop. Hence my comment on the manual setting.

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        @Jörgen-Johansson, I understand that, and I am not saying auto-skip is always perfect. But everything you can do to manually skip when the auto-skip is disabled, you can also do with the auto-skip enabled 😉

        The most important thing to do if you deviated for an unplanned newly discovered coffee shop ( 😉 ) is to set the navigation to the next most logical waypoint into the route. That goes for both auto-skip enabled or disabled.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          @Jörgen-Johansson, I understand that, and I am not saying auto-skip is always perfect. But everything you can do to manually skip when the auto-skip is disabled, you can also do with the auto-skip enabled 😉

          The most important thing to do if you deviated for an unplanned newly discovered coffee shop ( 😉 ) is to set the navigation to the next most logical waypoint into the route. That goes for both auto-skip enabled or disabled.

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          @Con-Hennekens I agree, autoskip seems quite good now. I was out for a full day's ride yesterday. I decided to change my route part way through. I skipped a few waypoints to stop the app trying to send me back. The app decided I needed to skip one more which it did automatically. It was right. MyRoute-app worked perfectly all day.

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          • Jörgen Johanssonundefined Jörgen Johansson

            @Jörgen-Johansson After close to 1000 km with the 4.1.3 version I would say the problem is solved!
            It's not perfect (our world isn't)but it works maybe 8 out of 10 with the setting "automatically skip waypoints - ON". In my opinion the OFF setting is the best when the planned route is really important since the passed via-/waypoints are all automatically skipped anyway. So, you're fully in control if you leave the route and later want to pick up where you left.

            So, problem solved, thanks! 😊 👍

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            @Con-Hennekens @Jörgen-Johansson said in Issues, system automatically skipping waypoints and therefore changing the whole route:

            @Jörgen-Johansson After close to 1000 km with the 4.1.3 version I would say the problem is solved!
            It's not perfect (our world isn't)but it works maybe 8 out of 10 with the setting "automatically skip waypoints - ON". In my opinion the OFF setting is the best when the planned route is really important since the passed via-/waypoints are all automatically skipped anyway. So, you're fully in control if you leave the route and later want to pick up where you left.

            So, problem solved, thanks! 😊 👍

            You are saying that with "automatically skip waypoints - OFF", passed via-/waypoints are all automatically skipped anyway.
            The I just want to ask what the technical difference is between having the waypoint function ON or OFF? How will it change the behavior of the app?

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            • Thomas Scharrerundefined Thomas Scharrer

              @Con-Hennekens @Jörgen-Johansson said in Issues, system automatically skipping waypoints and therefore changing the whole route:

              @Jörgen-Johansson After close to 1000 km with the 4.1.3 version I would say the problem is solved!
              It's not perfect (our world isn't)but it works maybe 8 out of 10 with the setting "automatically skip waypoints - ON". In my opinion the OFF setting is the best when the planned route is really important since the passed via-/waypoints are all automatically skipped anyway. So, you're fully in control if you leave the route and later want to pick up where you left.

              So, problem solved, thanks! 😊 👍

              You are saying that with "automatically skip waypoints - OFF", passed via-/waypoints are all automatically skipped anyway.
              The I just want to ask what the technical difference is between having the waypoint function ON or OFF? How will it change the behavior of the app?

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              Jörgen Johansson
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              @Thomas-Scharrer First, I am just a user, not the programmer so my reply comes just from my own experience.
              When "off"Next skips shaping-/via-/waypoints (whatever you want to call them) if you physically pass them on your route.
              However not if you e.g. take a parallell road to the planned route or take a side trip to a coffeeshop, gasstation or such. If set to "on" I have experienced even after the GOOD update that Next may skip some waypoints and by that not taking you to the point where you previous left the route.
              Again, my experience only.

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              • Thomas Scharrerundefined Thomas Scharrer

                @Con-Hennekens @Jörgen-Johansson said in Issues, system automatically skipping waypoints and therefore changing the whole route:

                @Jörgen-Johansson After close to 1000 km with the 4.1.3 version I would say the problem is solved!
                It's not perfect (our world isn't)but it works maybe 8 out of 10 with the setting "automatically skip waypoints - ON". In my opinion the OFF setting is the best when the planned route is really important since the passed via-/waypoints are all automatically skipped anyway. So, you're fully in control if you leave the route and later want to pick up where you left.

                So, problem solved, thanks! 😊 👍

                You are saying that with "automatically skip waypoints - OFF", passed via-/waypoints are all automatically skipped anyway.
                The I just want to ask what the technical difference is between having the waypoint function ON or OFF? How will it change the behavior of the app?

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                @Thomas-Scharrer, yes of course. If you "hit" a waypoint you will always proceed to the next one. What auto-skipping does is skip a waypoint if you cannot "hit" it due to roadblocks, deviations or whatever reason.

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                  @Thomas-Scharrer, yes of course. If you "hit" a waypoint you will always proceed to the next one. What auto-skipping does is skip a waypoint if you cannot "hit" it due to roadblocks, deviations or whatever reason.

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                  @Con-Hennekens @Jörgen-Johansson
                  Thanks for the information, I know you are a user and your input was very valuable on this thread.
                  so if auto skipping of OFF and you can for some reason not hit a waypoint, MRA will always try to navigate you back to the missed waypoint?

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                  • Thomas Scharrerundefined Thomas Scharrer

                    @Con-Hennekens @Jörgen-Johansson
                    Thanks for the information, I know you are a user and your input was very valuable on this thread.
                    so if auto skipping of OFF and you can for some reason not hit a waypoint, MRA will always try to navigate you back to the missed waypoint?

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                    @Con-Hennekens @Jörgen-Johansson

                    Another question because you are often talking about "shaping-/via-/waypoints". What is actually the difference between different types of waypoints?
                    When I plan a route in MRA route planner I thought its always the same type of "normal" waypoint, I dont even know how to create other types of waypoints.

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                    • Thomas Scharrerundefined Thomas Scharrer

                      @Con-Hennekens @Jörgen-Johansson

                      Another question because you are often talking about "shaping-/via-/waypoints". What is actually the difference between different types of waypoints?
                      When I plan a route in MRA route planner I thought its always the same type of "normal" waypoint, I dont even know how to create other types of waypoints.

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                      @Thomas-Scharrer All route points are waypoints. The hand symbols are called 'via points,' and the droplets are called 'shaping points.'

                      Start and finish are always 'via points.' 'Shaping points' are only there to shape your route. Place such a point on every road you want to drive on, or at least as many points as necessary to ensure your route follows the roads you have selected. Waypoints that you absolutely want to pass by or stop at are often marked as 'via points.' The navigation will always guide you to those points. These points are never skipped automatically.

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                      Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
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                      • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                        @Thomas-Scharrer All route points are waypoints. The hand symbols are called 'via points,' and the droplets are called 'shaping points.'

                        Start and finish are always 'via points.' 'Shaping points' are only there to shape your route. Place such a point on every road you want to drive on, or at least as many points as necessary to ensure your route follows the roads you have selected. Waypoints that you absolutely want to pass by or stop at are often marked as 'via points.' The navigation will always guide you to those points. These points are never skipped automatically.

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                        @Rob-Verhoeff
                        Thanks for the explanation, then this is now clear to me 🙂

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                        • Thomas Scharrerundefined Thomas Scharrer

                          @Con-Hennekens @Jörgen-Johansson
                          Thanks for the information, I know you are a user and your input was very valuable on this thread.
                          so if auto skipping of OFF and you can for some reason not hit a waypoint, MRA will always try to navigate you back to the missed waypoint?

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                          @Thomas-Scharrer said in Issues, system automatically skipping waypoints and therefore changing the whole route:

                          I know you are a user and your input was very valuable on this thread.

                          Thanks!

                          so if auto skipping of OFF and you can for some reason not hit a waypoint, MRA will always try to navigate you back to the missed waypoint?

                          Yes, that is the general idea. Of course you can skip a waypoint also manually in such a case, by tapping the waypoint tile in the top richt of your navigation screen.

                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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