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  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

    @G-Grote-Ganseij ja klopt! Dat zou op basis van de BarButtons zijn. Dat idee is voor in de ijskast.

    De verwachtingen lagen er hoog bij de doelgroep voor een vrij lage prijs wat hem niet ging worden op dit moment.

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    @Corjan-Meijerink Bij Waypoint verkrijgbaar, flinke prijs overigens!

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    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

      @G-Grote-Ganseij, het is echt niet heel ingewikkeld. Als je een soldeerbout kunt hanteren kun je ook die barbuttons maken. Op de website (zie link van Corjan) staat een bijzonder heldere handleiding. Als je via die website de onderdelen besteld, is de Arduino ook al voorzien van de juiste firmware en hoef je die dus niet zelf te laden.

      Eerlijk is eerlijk, ik heb hem zelf gebouwd omdat ik het een ontzettend leuk project vind. Toepasbaarheid voor normale weg-navigatie is eigenlijk gering. Het heeft meer waarde voor als je graag offroad rijdt.

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      @Con-Hennekens ik zag dat de firmware kunt kiezen voor 3 of 4 volgen mij was 4 dat je ook bv spotify kon bedienen, ik neem aan dat de printplaat alles op gesoldeerd is en dat je alleen de kabel hoef te solderen, of zijn het allemaal losse onderdelen.

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      • G.Grote Ganseijundefined G.Grote Ganseij

        @Con-Hennekens ik zag dat de firmware kunt kiezen voor 3 of 4 volgen mij was 4 dat je ook bv spotify kon bedienen, ik neem aan dat de printplaat alles op gesoldeerd is en dat je alleen de kabel hoef te solderen, of zijn het allemaal losse onderdelen.

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        @G-Grote-Ganseij, het zijn losse onderdelen. De mijne had nog geen printplaat, dus ik moest nog draadjes solderen 😉 De contacten van de knoppen steken door het printplaatje, maar je moet wel zelf de soldeerverbinding aanbrengen. Dat is echt niet ingewikkeld hoor.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

          @G-Grote-Ganseij deze specifiek zijn een hobby project van iemand zelf. Meer info: https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/

          Je hebt een duurdere die in elkaar is gezet, of een goedkopere dat je zelf de onderdelen kunt printen.

          De lage prijs maakt het aantrekkelijk, is betrekkelijk zonder problemen maar er zit geen bedrijf of uitgebreide support achter.

          De andere controllers (zoals ook in de app staan vermeld) zijn allemaal duurder en dat heeft dan ook weer voordelen die daar aan hangen.

          Ik zou bij interesse vooral gewoon die BarButtons aanschaffen voor de lage prijs en bekijken of zo’n systeem bevalt 🙂

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          @Corjan-Meijerink : Hey Corjan, ich bekomme zum Thema BarButtons kit keine Antwort, würde es selbst zusammen bauen.

          Habe am 2.10.2023 dort meine Anfrage bei Joost gestellt. Außer einer allgemeinen Bestätigungsmail weiter nichts mehr 😏, sehr schade, da es wohl die einzige Lösung für mich wäre.

          In meinem Fall, der Multicontroller der BMW wird ja wohl nicht mehr als Lösung für die MyRoute-App Steuerung an meiner R1250GS weiter verfolgt.

          • Wie soll es gehen ?

          Könntet ihr als MyRoute also bei Joost dort mal nachfragen ?

          VG Hubert
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            @Hubert-Thoring
            Hi Hubert, ich habe Joost auch schon zweimal angeschrieben, aber leider keine Antwort erhalten, ich hätte gerne sein Projekt unterstützt. 😕

            Ich habe mittlerweile eine Alternative gefunden (sorry Joost).

            https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/5665/motobuttons-lite-diy-project

            Ich weiß nicht, ob das die BarButtons ersetzt, ich werde berichten.

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            • Paul Palsundefined Paul Pals

              @Corjan-Meijerink Bij Waypoint verkrijgbaar, flinke prijs overigens!

              bb99dd04-ce81-4fe0-b799-dce4698dfeef-Barbuttons - kopie.png

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              #75

              @Paul-Pals

              I'm also liking the look of the Remotek One

              Anyone know how to purchase this for shipping to the UK?

              You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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              • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                @Paul-Pals

                I'm also liking the look of the Remotek One

                Anyone know how to purchase this for shipping to the UK?

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                @Lynchy67 Waypoint order by sales@way-point.nl

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                  @Lynchy67 said in MyRoute-app & BarButtons - control our app using a bluetooth keyboard:

                  @Paul-Pals

                  I'm also liking the look of the Remotek One

                  Anyone know how to purchase this for shipping to the UK?

                  The hint on their webiste (i.e. they have UK pricing) is that they may take an order direct. No harm in asking direct.

                  At that price (£116) you may even get away with no import duty, depending on the P&P costs. Max is £135 total, as far as I know, before duty needs to be paid.

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                    Hi to All,
                    BT keyboards zijn te koop, maar passen geen van allen goed op mijn BMW R1200RT 2008. Ik heb er een poosje tegenaan lopen hikken, maar er zat niets anders op om zelf een aanpassing te maken.
                    Ik heb inwendig het hele ontwerp van Joost Bijl gebruikt. Alleen het kastje aangepast. Ik zou het hele setje tekeningen en printgegevens etc. beschikbaar willen stellen aan aan eventuele liefhebbers. Het simpelste zou zijn om dat op de Barbuttons site te doen. Maar aangezien aan die kant geen reactie komt is mijn vraag of iemand een ander idee heeft.

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                    • Baltusundefined Baltus

                      Hi to All,
                      BT keyboards zijn te koop, maar passen geen van allen goed op mijn BMW R1200RT 2008. Ik heb er een poosje tegenaan lopen hikken, maar er zat niets anders op om zelf een aanpassing te maken.
                      Ik heb inwendig het hele ontwerp van Joost Bijl gebruikt. Alleen het kastje aangepast. Ik zou het hele setje tekeningen en printgegevens etc. beschikbaar willen stellen aan aan eventuele liefhebbers. Het simpelste zou zijn om dat op de Barbuttons site te doen. Maar aangezien aan die kant geen reactie komt is mijn vraag of iemand een ander idee heeft.

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                      @Baltus Hi, I am sure that you can use the forum here to share information and for files you can use file upload services.

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                      • Mork 0undefined Offline
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                        Hi there,

                        I similarly made some slight changes to Joost's BarButtons and have tried reaching out to him over the last couple months.

                        My biggest challenge/invented problem was moving to using a switched 12v feed, and finding a way to mount the thing that would prevent it rotating. I probably over-engineered the solution, but it was fun re-learning OnShape CAD :).

                        I've uploaded my modified BarButtons to Printables.

                        Essentially I made two mods:

                        1. A deeper case to hold a voltage dropper
                        2. Two cable tie channels to hold the bar, and a third to hold it to my mirror stalk

                        I do really love this controller. It's made MRA so much more viable for every day usage, and anything that lets me get some value from my printer is always welcome!

                        Joost if you ever read this and would like any input I'm glad to help, be that PCB design, coding, or the fun case design :).

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                          @Mork-0 Just for interest, what changes do you made at the barbuttons?

                          I ask Joost some question, but no reply at all.

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                          Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                          Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                          Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                          Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                          For more information, click here

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                          • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                            @Mork-0 Just for interest, what changes do you made at the barbuttons?

                            I ask Joost some question, but no reply at all.

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                            #82

                            @Jörgen, Yes, it seems that Joost Bijl is abroad for a longer period of time. He is not replying to me either. Via via I got confirmation that he is doing just fine. However his hobby project got a bit out of hand. I think it is uncertain that he will pick it up again.

                            I really like @Baltus his version!
                            Myself I made an iteration to the mount and the spacer to make it easily detachable.

                            c8577fa6-a083-4650-91c4-8df1bffb367e-image.png

                            It simply slides out to the top 😉
                            Simpel, but works a treat!

                            95df6957-a3c6-4260-9ec6-63b087257b56-image.png

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                            • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                              @Jörgen, Yes, it seems that Joost Bijl is abroad for a longer period of time. He is not replying to me either. Via via I got confirmation that he is doing just fine. However his hobby project got a bit out of hand. I think it is uncertain that he will pick it up again.

                              I really like @Baltus his version!
                              Myself I made an iteration to the mount and the spacer to make it easily detachable.

                              c8577fa6-a083-4650-91c4-8df1bffb367e-image.png

                              It simply slides out to the top 😉
                              Simpel, but works a treat!

                              95df6957-a3c6-4260-9ec6-63b087257b56-image.png

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                              @Con-Hennekens said in MyRoute-app & BarButtons - control our app using a bluetooth keyboard:

                              Via via I got confirmation that he is doing just fine. However his hobby project got a bit out of hand. I think it is uncertain that he will pick it up again.
                              le.

                              I get the feeling that it's been more successful than expected, but not enough to make a living (or maybe just a decent profit) out of it. If so, that's a shame because Joost has done a cracking job in it.

                              That's always the problem with hardware compared to pure software, too many extra things can go wrong - bad soldering, mis-reading instructions, zapping components with static, etc.

                              One solution is to put the price up to cover the support overheads, but then the attractiveness of the product decreases.

                              Maybe he could sell just the design rather than the physical parts, and then the emphasis is on each maker to build it correctly. Or outsource the supply of the parts to a third party, but the attractiveness to Joost probably dips then.

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                              • richtea999undefined richtea999

                                @Con-Hennekens said in MyRoute-app & BarButtons - control our app using a bluetooth keyboard:

                                Via via I got confirmation that he is doing just fine. However his hobby project got a bit out of hand. I think it is uncertain that he will pick it up again.
                                le.

                                I get the feeling that it's been more successful than expected, but not enough to make a living (or maybe just a decent profit) out of it. If so, that's a shame because Joost has done a cracking job in it.

                                That's always the problem with hardware compared to pure software, too many extra things can go wrong - bad soldering, mis-reading instructions, zapping components with static, etc.

                                One solution is to put the price up to cover the support overheads, but then the attractiveness of the product decreases.

                                Maybe he could sell just the design rather than the physical parts, and then the emphasis is on each maker to build it correctly. Or outsource the supply of the parts to a third party, but the attractiveness to Joost probably dips then.

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                                @richtea999, I think that such a project, how nice it may be, will never be buying your sandwiches if it is the only thing you do. It is still a niche and cannot be anything else then temporary. It could make a nice hobby though, but hobbies decay if it starts to look like work 😉

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                  A few days ago I contacted Joost for the first time via email. Haven't heard from him so far. Hope he can pick up the project again soon.

                                  There is also a notice on his website:

                                  Due to time contraints, I will temporarily not process requests as of July 30. You can leave your details below to get notified when this changes.

                                  https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/request-form-barbuttons-kit/

                                  The adventure starts where the plans end | READY TO >> RACE 🧡

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                                  • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                                    @Mork-0 Just for interest, what changes do you made at the barbuttons?

                                    I ask Joost some question, but no reply at all.

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                                    @Jörgen said in MyRoute-app & BarButtons - control our app using a bluetooth keyboard:

                                    @Mork-0 Just for interest, what changes do you made at the barbuttons?

                                    I ask Joost some question, but no reply at all.

                                    Hey @Jörgen , apologies for the delayed response! 🙂

                                    I only made the changes I mentioned, namely making the whole thing slightly deeper, and the cable tie channels to make removing it easier.

                                    I also re-used my old TomTom power connector thing so it's easy to unplug it too, should I ever need to. I initially thought I'd make use of one on my second bike, a little CRF, however I've found riding off road requires more concentration at the moment :P.

                                    @Con-Hennekens I do like your solution for mounting it! Is there a 'latch' or equivalent to keep it in place, or just friction and gravity does the job?

                                    @richtea999 I agree. It's quite cheap to print the PCB etc, but I could see the mild entertainment/annoyance of soldering everything would become quite vexatious after the first half a dozen. And the markup for just bundling parts can/will never be that great I expect. Passion projects :).

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                                      @Jörgen said in MyRoute-app & BarButtons - control our app using a bluetooth keyboard:

                                      @Mork-0 Just for interest, what changes do you made at the barbuttons?

                                      I ask Joost some question, but no reply at all.

                                      Hey @Jörgen , apologies for the delayed response! 🙂

                                      I only made the changes I mentioned, namely making the whole thing slightly deeper, and the cable tie channels to make removing it easier.

                                      I also re-used my old TomTom power connector thing so it's easy to unplug it too, should I ever need to. I initially thought I'd make use of one on my second bike, a little CRF, however I've found riding off road requires more concentration at the moment :P.

                                      @Con-Hennekens I do like your solution for mounting it! Is there a 'latch' or equivalent to keep it in place, or just friction and gravity does the job?

                                      @richtea999 I agree. It's quite cheap to print the PCB etc, but I could see the mild entertainment/annoyance of soldering everything would become quite vexatious after the first half a dozen. And the markup for just bundling parts can/will never be that great I expect. Passion projects :).

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                                      @Mork-0 said in MyRoute-app & BarButtons - control our app using a bluetooth keyboard:

                                      @Con-Hennekens I do like your solution for mounting it! Is there a 'latch' or equivalent to keep it in place, or just friction and gravity does the job?

                                      No latching 😉 . Friction and gravity are doing it just fine, but indeed the friction is declining. I'd probably rather print a new mount and spacer than fiddle with a latch 😉

                                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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