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  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
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    The required level of precision is really situational.

    If there is only one lane, the waypoint can be easily placed 20 meters off the road and it will be recognised as passed.

    The real challenge occurs if there is another lane / driving direction. What if it was placed on the other lane intentionally? In that case you want the navigation to be precise and force you to drive exactly over the waypoint 🙂

    So in general, checking your waypoint placement is always recommended.

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    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

      The required level of precision is really situational.

      If there is only one lane, the waypoint can be easily placed 20 meters off the road and it will be recognised as passed.

      The real challenge occurs if there is another lane / driving direction. What if it was placed on the other lane intentionally? In that case you want the navigation to be precise and force you to drive exactly over the waypoint 🙂

      So in general, checking your waypoint placement is always recommended.

      Vincent Currenundefined Offline
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      #4

      @Corjan-Meijerink: Thanks to you and @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master for the replies. As you can see from the screen capture, in this case that first waypoint is on the route line -- in fact, since it's the first route point, it actually defines the route line -- and it's pretty darn close to the middle of the highway, too. In this case, the anomaly is that the lane pattern at that point required me in the far left lane when I passed the waypoint, so I must have just barely missed it. Even looking at the screen grab again now, I don't know how I could see that there would be a problem - it looks like it is in the right place.

      By the way, I also know that it is not that difficult to tell the app to skip a waypoint I may have missed - but I am not yet familiar enough with that feature to do it quickly and comfortably at the side of the road. Eventually it will get easier as I develop muscle memory using the app.

      Thanks again,
      Vinnie

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      • Vincent Currenundefined Vincent Curren

        @Corjan-Meijerink: Thanks to you and @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master for the replies. As you can see from the screen capture, in this case that first waypoint is on the route line -- in fact, since it's the first route point, it actually defines the route line -- and it's pretty darn close to the middle of the highway, too. In this case, the anomaly is that the lane pattern at that point required me in the far left lane when I passed the waypoint, so I must have just barely missed it. Even looking at the screen grab again now, I don't know how I could see that there would be a problem - it looks like it is in the right place.

        By the way, I also know that it is not that difficult to tell the app to skip a waypoint I may have missed - but I am not yet familiar enough with that feature to do it quickly and comfortably at the side of the road. Eventually it will get easier as I develop muscle memory using the app.

        Thanks again,
        Vinnie

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        @Vincent-Curren it's actually quite simple if you have the option set to displayed the next waypoint which appears at the top right of your screen. Simply long press on the next waypoint (or press Once and then answer yes to the question). You can try this while sitting in your chair at home. Cheers

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        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

          The required level of precision is really situational.

          If there is only one lane, the waypoint can be easily placed 20 meters off the road and it will be recognised as passed.

          The real challenge occurs if there is another lane / driving direction. What if it was placed on the other lane intentionally? In that case you want the navigation to be precise and force you to drive exactly over the waypoint 🙂

          So in general, checking your waypoint placement is always recommended.

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          @Corjan-Meijerink
          I am all in favour of precise waypoints. Making them less precise will lead to other problems.

          However, the approach to go over all waypoints and correctly place them one by one could be improved. by adding a feature to the planner that puts all waypoints in a list on the screen, zooms to the firsdt one to place it perfectly, then zooms in on the second one , ... etc and only recalculates the entire route after they are all placed.

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          • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

            @Corjan-Meijerink
            I am all in favour of precise waypoints. Making them less precise will lead to other problems.

            However, the approach to go over all waypoints and correctly place them one by one could be improved. by adding a feature to the planner that puts all waypoints in a list on the screen, zooms to the firsdt one to place it perfectly, then zooms in on the second one , ... etc and only recalculates the entire route after they are all placed.

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            @Drabslab said in Waypoints overly precise?:

            @Corjan-Meijerink
            I am all in favour of precise waypoints. Making them less precise will lead to other problems.

            However, the approach to go over all waypoints and correctly place them one by one could be improved. by adding a feature to the planner that puts all waypoints in a list on the screen, zooms to the firsdt one to place it perfectly, then zooms in on the second one , ... etc and only recalculates the entire route after they are all placed.

            You can already do most of that, right? Select the first waypoint from the list on the left (or on the map), click the "Zoom in" button (best to do this on the actual map used for calculations), move it if necessary, then use the right-arrow to move to the next point (it will stay at the same zoom-level).

            Screenshot 2024-02-01 at 12.48.53.png

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            • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

              @Drabslab said in Waypoints overly precise?:

              @Corjan-Meijerink
              I am all in favour of precise waypoints. Making them less precise will lead to other problems.

              However, the approach to go over all waypoints and correctly place them one by one could be improved. by adding a feature to the planner that puts all waypoints in a list on the screen, zooms to the firsdt one to place it perfectly, then zooms in on the second one , ... etc and only recalculates the entire route after they are all placed.

              You can already do most of that, right? Select the first waypoint from the list on the left (or on the map), click the "Zoom in" button (best to do this on the actual map used for calculations), move it if necessary, then use the right-arrow to move to the next point (it will stay at the same zoom-level).

              Screenshot 2024-02-01 at 12.48.53.png

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              @Herko-ter-Horst or even use the arrow keys on your keyboard 🙂

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              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                @Herko-ter-Horst or even use the arrow keys on your keyboard 🙂

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                @Corjan-Meijerink said in Waypoints overly precise?:

                or even use the arrow keys on your keyboard 🙂

                Wow...! 😉

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                  @Corjan-Meijerink

                  Yes this works.... but... If I move the waypoint to other near location to improve route, a dialog appears to "rename" new point. After write new name o cancel to left old name, way point configuration dialog dissapears, so I need to click ok on way pont and use arroys (screen or keyboard) to access next way point.

                  🤷

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                  • Lluis Arasanzundefined Lluis Arasanz

                    @Corjan-Meijerink

                    Yes this works.... but... If I move the waypoint to other near location to improve route, a dialog appears to "rename" new point. After write new name o cancel to left old name, way point configuration dialog dissapears, so I need to click ok on way pont and use arroys (screen or keyboard) to access next way point.

                    🤷

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                    @Lluis-Arasanz this is a setting you can enable or disable yourself. Make sure "Ask for waypoint name" is unchecked in the Toolbox menu.

                    Screenshot 2024-02-02 at 01.28.20.png

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                    • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

                      @Lluis-Arasanz this is a setting you can enable or disable yourself. Make sure "Ask for waypoint name" is unchecked in the Toolbox menu.

                      Screenshot 2024-02-02 at 01.28.20.png

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                      #12

                      Hi @Herko-ter-Horst ,

                      Yes, this check avoids for "ask for naming" dialog box, but:

                      • does not conserve personal waypoint name (every move changes name by address). This behavior is bad for me 'cause I often rename all waypoints to something better to be read on motorbike
                      • does not avoid than waypoint tool dialog also closes (this is a little problem that does not need to have in mind)

                      As allways.... is my setting and my opinion,

                      Best regards

                      Lluis Arasanz

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