Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Popular
  • Support
  • MyRoute-app
Collapse
Brand Logo

MRA Community Forum

  1. Home
  2. [Beta] The MyRoute-app
  3. [Beta] Problems, Bugs and other Issues
  4. Basic Routing Errors

Basic Routing Errors

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved [Beta] Problems, Bugs and other Issues
13 Posts 6 Posters 85 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

    @AlastairA Sounds like you /the app maybe missed a waypoint and kept sending you back to it. Can you share the route you used?

    Drabslabundefined Offline
    Drabslabundefined Offline
    Drabslab
    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    @Herko-ter-Horst

    or the waypoints were not exactly placed on the road and MRA selected the nearest roads leadign to this beahviour;

    when makign a route you always have to zoom in on your waypoints to see if they are exactly on the road.

    It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

      @AlastairA Sounds like you /the app maybe missed a waypoint and kept sending you back to it. Can you share the route you used?

      AlastairAundefined Offline
      AlastairAundefined Offline
      AlastairA
      wrote on last edited by
      #4

      @Herko-ter-Horst For sure - what is the best way for me to share the route?

      Herko ter Horstundefined 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • AlastairAundefined AlastairA

        @Herko-ter-Horst For sure - what is the best way for me to share the route?

        Herko ter Horstundefined Offline
        Herko ter Horstundefined Offline
        Herko ter Horst
        wrote on last edited by
        #5

        @AlastairA If you set the route to "public" in MRA Routeplanner you can then copy/paste the link here on the forum.

        AlastairAundefined 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

          @AlastairA If you set the route to "public" in MRA Routeplanner you can then copy/paste the link here on the forum.

          AlastairAundefined Offline
          AlastairAundefined Offline
          AlastairA
          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          @Herko-ter-Horst Thanks!
          Here is the link

          AlastairAundefined 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • AlastairAundefined AlastairA

            @Herko-ter-Horst Thanks!
            Here is the link

            AlastairAundefined Offline
            AlastairAundefined Offline
            AlastairA
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            @AlastairA The screenshot that I posted above is very near Waypoint 10.

            Drabslabundefined 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • AlastairAundefined AlastairA

              @AlastairA The screenshot that I posted above is very near Waypoint 10.

              Drabslabundefined Offline
              Drabslabundefined Offline
              Drabslab
              wrote on last edited by
              #8

              @AlastairA

              as I expected, waypoint 10 is not on the road

              0b42b356-fe33-403e-9b28-a30898305ace-image.png

              and waypoint 8 isn't either (i did not check the other points)

              de14efa1-54c0-4e17-a676-45cddca8ab37-image.png

              this forces the navigation tool to search for a point as close as possible to the waypoint, and that is not necessarily the most efficient road.

              if you zoom in on point 9

              11c31adc-ca53-4ee8-94e7-943730bce7bd-image.png

              you see clearly that it is not on the road and the nav tool sends you in that small road towards point 9 and then back

              solution: as last step in the route making process, zoom in on every waypoint you have placed and put it precisely on the road.

              It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

              AlastairAundefined 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

                @AlastairA

                as I expected, waypoint 10 is not on the road

                0b42b356-fe33-403e-9b28-a30898305ace-image.png

                and waypoint 8 isn't either (i did not check the other points)

                de14efa1-54c0-4e17-a676-45cddca8ab37-image.png

                this forces the navigation tool to search for a point as close as possible to the waypoint, and that is not necessarily the most efficient road.

                if you zoom in on point 9

                11c31adc-ca53-4ee8-94e7-943730bce7bd-image.png

                you see clearly that it is not on the road and the nav tool sends you in that small road towards point 9 and then back

                solution: as last step in the route making process, zoom in on every waypoint you have placed and put it precisely on the road.

                AlastairAundefined Offline
                AlastairAundefined Offline
                AlastairA
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                @Drabslab OK - thanks. Every day is a school day!!

                However - rather than rely on extremely accurate positioning of the waypoint, would it not be better to put a dialog box up on the app when driving, that alerts the driver to a missed waypoint and asks whether you want to skip it, or return to it?

                I did encounter a similar issue before when placing a waypoint on a motorway but it was on the South side rather than the North side. This had the same effect of continually trying to route me in the opposite direction. Surely users cannot be expected to position waypoints to the precision of the correct side of the road??

                Marinus van Deudekomundefined Nick Carthewundefined 2 Replies Last reply
                0
                • AlastairAundefined AlastairA

                  @Drabslab OK - thanks. Every day is a school day!!

                  However - rather than rely on extremely accurate positioning of the waypoint, would it not be better to put a dialog box up on the app when driving, that alerts the driver to a missed waypoint and asks whether you want to skip it, or return to it?

                  I did encounter a similar issue before when placing a waypoint on a motorway but it was on the South side rather than the North side. This had the same effect of continually trying to route me in the opposite direction. Surely users cannot be expected to position waypoints to the precision of the correct side of the road??

                  Marinus van Deudekomundefined Do not disturb
                  Marinus van Deudekomundefined Do not disturb
                  Marinus van Deudekom
                  Valued contributor
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #10

                  @AlastairA Like dragslab Said it is very important to check all of the waypoint before using your route. That is of you want it to be a nice ride. Otherwise you get the effects that you encountered during your trips.
                  Placing the way points on the wrong side of a hiway leads your trip in the wrong direction.
                  So max zoom in on waypoint 1 and check all of the waypoints.
                  Have a nice ride

                  Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                  Honda Silverwing GL 650
                  DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                  Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                  Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • Drabslabundefined Offline
                    Drabslabundefined Offline
                    Drabslab
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    @AlastairA said in Basic Routing Errors:

                    @Drabslab OK - thanks. Every day is a school day!!

                    However - rather than rely on extremely accurate positioning of the waypoint, would it not be better to put a dialog box up on the app when driving, that alerts the driver to a missed waypoint and asks whether you want to skip it, or return to it?

                    No, because the navigation tool cannot guestimate where you want to go, or which points are wrongly placed.

                    For instance, point 9 could have been the home of the "love of your life" and then you certainly don't want the nav tool to suggest skipping it 🙂

                    I did encounter a similar issue before when placing a waypoint on a motorway but it was on the South side rather than the North side. This had the same effect of continually trying to route me in the opposite direction.

                    sounds very familiar. This joke once cost me half a day in France. 🙂

                    Surely users cannot be expected to position waypoints to the precision of the correct side of the road??

                    OK, the routeplanner could be improved in this aspect. Point 10 close to the road without any other roads nearby could be solved by an automated algorithm.

                    But your point 9 again is a good example where this will not help. Any algoritm would put your point 9 exactly on the small side road and not on the main one where you want it to be.

                    and when your route is completely finished, placing the waypoints exactly on the road is not such a big deal and takes less time than what you would imagine.

                    5b54d59a-8f98-4294-ab59-a1856fb56270-image.png

                    click on a waypoint, click zoom, position the point, and move to the next waypoint. the routeplanner could be somewhat improved to make it faster but it works

                    It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • AlastairAundefined AlastairA

                      @Drabslab OK - thanks. Every day is a school day!!

                      However - rather than rely on extremely accurate positioning of the waypoint, would it not be better to put a dialog box up on the app when driving, that alerts the driver to a missed waypoint and asks whether you want to skip it, or return to it?

                      I did encounter a similar issue before when placing a waypoint on a motorway but it was on the South side rather than the North side. This had the same effect of continually trying to route me in the opposite direction. Surely users cannot be expected to position waypoints to the precision of the correct side of the road??

                      Nick Carthewundefined Offline
                      Nick Carthewundefined Offline
                      Nick Carthew
                      RouteXpert
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      @AlastairA If you use the magnifying glass to fully zoom in, make any adjustments and move to the next route point by using the right arrow, you can very quickly check the entire route. This is especially important if your route contains duel carriageways. If you do move a route point to position it's accuracy you will need to re-type any name that you have given it.

                      d9216b19-cdb4-4ceb-81ad-2e71db06384b-image.png

                      Always willing to help if I can.
                      Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                      MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                      Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                      Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                      TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • richtea999undefined Offline
                        richtea999undefined Offline
                        richtea999
                        Valued contributor
                        wrote on last edited by richtea999
                        #13

                        It's worth re-iterating the difference between the two types of 'waypoint' - also known as route points (thanks Nick!):

                        • 'shaping' point (an inverted raindrop):
                          shaping point.png
                        • 'via' point (a hand):
                          waypoint.png

                        The routing logic forces the route to pass through 'via' points (how close is not clear to me - answers on a postcard please). If you miss it, it will continue to route you back to it regardless of how round-about the route becomes.

                        Two solutions:

                        1. As the other commenters say you need to move the tip of the 'via' point onto the black track, or
                        2. Swap it back to a 'shaping' point, then you can pass nearby, not exactly through it, and the routing will behave as you expected
                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        Reply
                        • Reply as topic
                        Log in to reply
                        • Oldest to Newest
                        • Newest to Oldest
                        • Most Votes


                        ACTIVE USERS
                        Nick Carthewundefined
                        Nick Carthew
                        Marinus van Deudekomundefined
                        Marinus van Deudekom
                        Drabslabundefined
                        Drabslab
                        richtea999undefined
                        richtea999
                        Herko ter Horstundefined
                        Herko ter Horst
                        AlastairAundefined
                        AlastairA
                        POPULAR TOPICS
                        • 12 Tage in den Seealpen mit MRA und es war eher NICHT gut..
                          Martin Wilckeundefined
                          Martin Wilcke
                          1
                          43
                          1.0k

                        • Route not transferring to Zumo XT
                          Reinhard-32undefined
                          Reinhard-32
                          0
                          13
                          177

                        • Photo Moments Badge
                          Rob Verhoeffundefined
                          Rob Verhoeff
                          0
                          12
                          137

                        • Update 4.4.0 - 400 geen basis kaart
                          Stefan Hummelinkundefined
                          Stefan Hummelink
                          0
                          11
                          67

                        • Cannot Transfer to plan.tomtom
                          Nick Carthewundefined
                          Nick Carthew
                          0
                          7
                          114

                        • Fietsroute op pc niet gelijk aan route op app.
                          Baltusundefined
                          Baltus
                          0
                          6
                          28

                        • Improvement suggestions after long trip - and a single bug
                          Manzo91undefined
                          Manzo91
                          5
                          11
                          305

                        • Trip meter
                          Con Hennekensundefined
                          Con Hennekens
                          0
                          6
                          130
                        MY GROUPS
                        • Login

                        • Login or register to search.
                        • First post
                          Last post
                        0
                        • Categories
                        • Recent
                        • Popular
                        • Support
                        • MyRoute-app