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GPX 1.1, 1.2 and MRA exported routes

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  • Arjan de Vries Arjan de Vries

    If I am correct there is one disadvantage of the 1.2
    You have to be ON the route to start it.
    1.1 navigates you to the starting point.
    Correct?

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    @Arjan-de-Vries
    Hello Arjan,
    Only start the route after you have a complete fix (= at least 3 green lines), so only when the Zumo has found enough satellites and is ready for navigation. If you start the route earlier, you will be sent directly to the 2nd route point via a different route. You will then miss the first part of the route. For example, if you are in a garage, first drive outside and wait until you have a fix and then start the route.

    Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
    Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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    • Hans van de Ven MR.MRA Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

      @Arjan-de-Vries
      Hello Arjan,
      Only start the route after you have a complete fix (= at least 3 green lines), so only when the Zumo has found enough satellites and is ready for navigation. If you start the route earlier, you will be sent directly to the 2nd route point via a different route. You will then miss the first part of the route. For example, if you are in a garage, first drive outside and wait until you have a fix and then start the route.

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      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master And if I put the first point somewhere a street further from my house , start the route at my house (outside) and choose "go to the beginning"? Then it will go to the first pint and after that go to the second? (I am not able to test this now)

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      • Arjan de Vries Arjan de Vries

        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master And if I put the first point somewhere a street further from my house , start the route at my house (outside) and choose "go to the beginning"? Then it will go to the first pint and after that go to the second? (I am not able to test this now)

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        @Arjan-de-Vries

        Then you go to the starting point👍

        Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
        Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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        • Arjan de Vries Arjan de Vries

          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master And if I put the first point somewhere a street further from my house , start the route at my house (outside) and choose "go to the beginning"? Then it will go to the first pint and after that go to the second? (I am not able to test this now)

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          @Arjan-de-Vries i have two favorites, both 100 m from my house, one is called "home start" ,the other one home end.

          For each jotel along the route, my endpoint is the exact address of the hotel or the most convenient parking spot. The next days route has a beginning up to 1km from the hotel

          It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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          • Drabslab Drabslab

            @Arjan-de-Vries i have two favorites, both 100 m from my house, one is called "home start" ,the other one home end.

            For each jotel along the route, my endpoint is the exact address of the hotel or the most convenient parking spot. The next days route has a beginning up to 1km from the hotel

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            @Drabslab I do exactly the same way. As many others have done, I had to learn the hard way why it's a bad idea to put your starting point exactly where you are!

            Steve

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              This topic is interesting to me as a Novice creating GPX files using a number of free apps & now MyRouteApp. How can I tell if the resulting GPX file is in format 1.1 or 1.2?

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              • Jay Potter 0 Jay Potter 0

                This topic is interesting to me as a Novice creating GPX files using a number of free apps & now MyRouteApp. How can I tell if the resulting GPX file is in format 1.1 or 1.2?

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                @Jay-Potter-0

                Hello Jay, gpx 1.1 is a file with shaping- and viapoints
                Gpx 1.2 is a file with only viapoints

                Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
                Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                • Hans van de Ven MR.MRA Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                  @Jay-Potter-0

                  Hello Jay, gpx 1.1 is a file with shaping- and viapoints
                  Gpx 1.2 is a file with only viapoints

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                  @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in GPX 1.1, 1.2 and MRA exported routes:

                  @Jay-Potter-0

                  Hello Jay, gpx 1.1 is a file with shaping- and viapoints
                  Gpx 1.2 is a file with only viapoints

                  Do you possibly have this backwards? I believe that 1.1 only has the beginning and ending viapoints and the rest are shaping points, whereas 1.2 can have multiple viapoints and shaping points.

                  Best regards,

                  Steve

                  Steve Jarrell
                  Western North Carolina US

                  Lifetime Routeplanner Gold & Navigation Next
                  2025 BMW R1300GS
                  2025 Can-Am Spyder
                  DMD T865-X 8" Tablet
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                  • Steve Jarrell Steve Jarrell

                    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in GPX 1.1, 1.2 and MRA exported routes:

                    @Jay-Potter-0

                    Hello Jay, gpx 1.1 is a file with shaping- and viapoints
                    Gpx 1.2 is a file with only viapoints

                    Do you possibly have this backwards? I believe that 1.1 only has the beginning and ending viapoints and the rest are shaping points, whereas 1.2 can have multiple viapoints and shaping points.

                    Best regards,

                    Steve

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                    @Steve-Jarrell

                    I won’t mention the 590 as I have no experience with that device.

                    On the XT, both GPX 1.1 and GPX1.2 can contain Via Points and Shaping Points.

                    The difference is that GPX 1.1 will show the Via Points and the Shaping Points visibly on the XT Map and the Via Points will announce themselves visibly on the XT Screen as you approach them.
                    Shaping Points never announce themselves.

                    GPX 1.2 will only visibly show Via Points on the XT Map and they will announce themselves visibly on the XT Screen as you approach them.
                    With GPX 1.2 Shaping points are hidden on the XT Map but they are still used to Shape the Route.

                    You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                    • Steve Jarrell Steve Jarrell

                      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in GPX 1.1, 1.2 and MRA exported routes:

                      @Jay-Potter-0

                      Hello Jay, gpx 1.1 is a file with shaping- and viapoints
                      Gpx 1.2 is a file with only viapoints

                      Do you possibly have this backwards? I believe that 1.1 only has the beginning and ending viapoints and the rest are shaping points, whereas 1.2 can have multiple viapoints and shaping points.

                      Best regards,

                      Steve

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                      @Steve-Jarrell

                      Steve
                      gpx 1.1 Route with shaping points (balls) and viapoints (Flags)
                      You can leave the recalculation on on the Zumo XT, if you deviate from the route you will be brought back to the route (to the nearest ball or flag)
                      gpx1.1_Zumo.jpg

                      gpx 1.2 Route-Track via viapoints (Flags)
                      You must turn off the recalculation on the Zumo XT, if you deviate from the route you will have to drive back to the route on sight. If you leave recalculation on you will be directed to the next flag according to the settings on the Zumo.
                      gpx12_nav6.jpg

                      Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
                      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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