@Nick-Carthew I know what you mean. But what I meant is I "draw" the tour roughly in the overlays, without caring about the positioning in the HERE map. That is the finetuning that I do afterwards.

@Rob-Verhoeff but then you still won’t see those routes nested deep in some folders @M-Schrijver good suggestion - will be something for further down the road.

Perfect, thanks a lot.

@StefanHummelink, True, but sliding that slider and watch the duration change gets you in the ballpark quite easily.

@Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master are you referring to putting a revision number in the name of the route? If so, yup I'm doing that already. I was just looking for a way to keep my routes organized, but I think I'm going to just organize them grouped together within a directory and version them as you suggest.

@David-Rudgley The website maintenance is planned second half this year

@Corjan-Meijerink, yes indeed, I use MRA mainly complementary to Maps. MRA is for the FUN rides So let's make some progress on the camper/caravan requests first

@Raj-2 I cannot hear the difference well between Voice1 and Daniel. Maybe that's because English is not my native language. However, I can easily hear the difference in Dutch between Xander, Claire, and Ellen (Belgian/Dutch). I think @Bart-DM has given the awnser with that.