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  • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

    @Jay-Salvo said in SilverFox Controller C 1:

    ...Im using the DMD2 tablet it already has the button app when shipped, I've updated it...

    Please, how could you update the Button App? Which version do you have on your device now?

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    @Guzzist Do not know whether it is helpful for you.
    I have the Button App installed as a single app on my Android.
    To update the app I have just top open the app and if there ist an update available, the app ist asking me if I want to update.

    BMW R 1250 GS
    MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
    BMW Connected Ride Cradle
    SPC Universal mount
    Motorola Edge 40
    Sena SLR 3
    Sena 50 R

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    • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

      @Guzzist Do not know whether it is helpful for you.
      I have the Button App installed as a single app on my Android.
      To update the app I have just top open the app and if there ist an update available, the app ist asking me if I want to update.

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      @Peter-Zehentreiter ah - ok, understood. But it sounds, the Button app was used on DMD device - therefore I have asked, because on DMD you should not use Playstore for updates.

      Nothing is impossible ;-)
      In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
      In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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      • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

        @Peter-Zehentreiter ah - ok, understood. But it sounds, the Button app was used on DMD device - therefore I have asked, because on DMD you should not use Playstore for updates.

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        @Guzzist My button app isn't from the Play Store either. You can find the app as an "APK file" either in the DMD forum or on the SilverFox website.

        BMW R 1250 GS
        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
        BMW Connected Ride Cradle
        SPC Universal mount
        Motorola Edge 40
        Sena SLR 3
        Sena 50 R

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        • Kenny Thierensundefined Kenny Thierens

          @Corjan-Meijerink Sorry to bother you. Have you had a chance to test your new C1 controller? Once I am sure all functions work in MRA Navigation, I will order this controller.
          Thank you in advance.

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          @Kenny-Thierens @Peter-Zehentreiter confirmed it worked as expected! So I trust that is the case ๐Ÿ™‚

          I did receive the new SilverFox controller but have not yet connected it to power. Hopefully I get around doing that next week.

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          • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

            @Kenny-Thierens @Peter-Zehentreiter confirmed it worked as expected! So I trust that is the case ๐Ÿ™‚

            I did receive the new SilverFox controller but have not yet connected it to power. Hopefully I get around doing that next week.

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            @Corjan-Meijerink Hi, ive update everything but I cant zoom in and out with the joystick on the C1, The left joystick does nothing in MRA but works in other apps. I have a wired connection. Look forward to seeing if you have the same problem and cant resolve it. Thanks.

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            • Jay Salvoundefined Jay Salvo

              @Corjan-Meijerink Hi, ive update everything but I cant zoom in and out with the joystick on the C1, The left joystick does nothing in MRA but works in other apps. I have a wired connection. Look forward to seeing if you have the same problem and cant resolve it. Thanks.

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              @Jay-Salvo did you already tried bluetooth connection instead of wired?

              '07 BMW R1200RT
              DMDยฒ T865x Android 14 tablet
              Carpuride W702 (ditched)
              TomTom Rider 500 (ditched)
              Samsung S24+

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              • Kenny Thierensundefined Kenny Thierens

                @Jay-Salvo did you already tried bluetooth connection instead of wired?

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                @Kenny-Thierens I also mentioned that issue 15 days ago to him......I also think, that could be an issue.

                BMW R 1250 GS
                MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                SPC Universal mount
                Motorola Edge 40
                Sena SLR 3
                Sena 50 R

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                • Kenny Thierensundefined Kenny Thierens

                  @Jay-Salvo did you already tried bluetooth connection instead of wired?

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                  @Kenny-Thierens no itโ€™s wired, I canโ€™t easily disconnect the wiring to try Bluetooth as itโ€™s buried in the bike. All other navigation platforms work with a wired connection

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                  • Jay Salvoundefined Jay Salvo

                    @Kenny-Thierens no itโ€™s wired, I canโ€™t easily disconnect the wiring to try Bluetooth as itโ€™s buried in the bike. All other navigation platforms work with a wired connection

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                    @Jay-SalvoI In our Button app we can disable cable connection, do you have the same possibility in your Button app?

                    Screenshot 2025-04-22 190045.jpg

                    BMW R 1250 GS
                    MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                    BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                    SPC Universal mount
                    Motorola Edge 40
                    Sena SLR 3
                    Sena 50 R

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                    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                      @Kenny-Thierens @Peter-Zehentreiter confirmed it worked as expected! So I trust that is the case ๐Ÿ™‚

                      I did receive the new SilverFox controller but have not yet connected it to power. Hopefully I get around doing that next week.

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                      @Corjan-Meijerink The only thing Iยดd like to know... is there a possibilty to skip waypoints with the controller, if yes please be so kind and explain how to do.

                      Thanks in advance
                      Peter

                      BMW R 1250 GS
                      MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                      BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                      SPC Universal mount
                      Motorola Edge 40
                      Sena SLR 3
                      Sena 50 R

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                      • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                        @Jay-SalvoI In our Button app we can disable cable connection, do you have the same possibility in your Button app?

                        Screenshot 2025-04-22 190045.jpg

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                        @Peter-Zehentreiter Thank you Peter, just gone and tried it and it works via the Bluetooth although as soon as power is lost I have to reconnect bluetooth again and deselect cable in the buttons app.

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                        • Jay Salvoundefined Jay Salvo

                          @Peter-Zehentreiter Thank you Peter, just gone and tried it and it works via the Bluetooth although as soon as power is lost I have to reconnect bluetooth again and deselect cable in the buttons app.

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                          @Jay-Salvo I am glad to read that you can celebrate at least a partial success

                          BMW R 1250 GS
                          MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                          BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                          SPC Universal mount
                          Motorola Edge 40
                          Sena SLR 3
                          Sena 50 R

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                          • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                            @Jay-Salvo I am glad to read that you can celebrate at least a partial success

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                            @Peter-Zehentreiter If you sort skipping waypoints easily Id be interested in that too๐Ÿ˜€

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                            • Jay Salvoundefined Jay Salvo

                              @Peter-Zehentreiter If you sort skipping waypoints easily Id be interested in that too๐Ÿ˜€

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                              @Jay-Salvo I'll keep you informed ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              BMW R 1250 GS
                              MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                              BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                              SPC Universal mount
                              Motorola Edge 40
                              Sena SLR 3
                              Sena 50 R

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                              • Jay Salvoundefined Jay Salvo

                                @Peter-Zehentreiter If you sort skipping waypoints easily Id be interested in that too๐Ÿ˜€

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                                @Jay-Salvo Hi Jay, I got it ๐Ÿ™‚
                                This link leads to the SilverFox Bluetooth controller commands:
                                https://www.myrouteapp.com/support

                                According to the commands listed in the table, the code "D" is the relevant command for skipping waypoints.

                                Screenshot 2025-04-24 105136.jpg

                                On the SilverFox website: https://www.silverfoxcontrollers.com/motorcycle-navigation-installation, you can find further information about which commands the two joysticks can execute.

                                According to this description, you need to push the control joystick up and hold it briefly.

                                I've tested it; it works for both via and shaping points.

                                Screenshot 2025-04-24 110000.jpg

                                BMW R 1250 GS
                                MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                                SPC Universal mount
                                Motorola Edge 40
                                Sena SLR 3
                                Sena 50 R

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                                • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                                  @Jay-Salvo Hi Jay, I got it ๐Ÿ™‚
                                  This link leads to the SilverFox Bluetooth controller commands:
                                  https://www.myrouteapp.com/support

                                  According to the commands listed in the table, the code "D" is the relevant command for skipping waypoints.

                                  Screenshot 2025-04-24 105136.jpg

                                  On the SilverFox website: https://www.silverfoxcontrollers.com/motorcycle-navigation-installation, you can find further information about which commands the two joysticks can execute.

                                  According to this description, you need to push the control joystick up and hold it briefly.

                                  I've tested it; it works for both via and shaping points.

                                  Screenshot 2025-04-24 110000.jpg

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                                  @Peter-Zehentreiter That's Brilliant, a huge thank you, I will have a play this weekend to see it working.๐Ÿ‘

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                                  • Jay Salvoundefined Jay Salvo

                                    @Peter-Zehentreiter That's Brilliant, a huge thank you, I will have a play this weekend to see it working.๐Ÿ‘

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                                    @Jay-Salvo so, the combination T865x with C1 controller is working well for you now that it's BT connected? All major functions are working? If so, I'll order one too. Just need to adjust it a bit to fit on my R1200RT handlebar.

                                    '07 BMW R1200RT
                                    DMDยฒ T865x Android 14 tablet
                                    Carpuride W702 (ditched)
                                    TomTom Rider 500 (ditched)
                                    Samsung S24+

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                                    • Kenny Thierensundefined Kenny Thierens

                                      @Jay-Salvo so, the combination T865x with C1 controller is working well for you now that it's BT connected? All major functions are working? If so, I'll order one too. Just need to adjust it a bit to fit on my R1200RT handlebar.

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                                      Would you prefer c1 above h1? Why or why not?

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                                      • Arjan de Vriesundefined Arjan de Vries

                                        Would you prefer c1 above h1? Why or why not?

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                                        @Arjan-de-Vries It depends what bike do you have and how much space do you have on your handlebar.
                                        I checked the specs on the SilverFox Website and came to the solution that all controller can do almost the same.

                                        For my GS 1250 the C1 was the best solution (in my opinion)

                                        Screenshot 2025-04-25 082611.jpg Screenshot 2025-04-25 082727.jpg

                                        BMW R 1250 GS
                                        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                        BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                                        SPC Universal mount
                                        Motorola Edge 40
                                        Sena SLR 3
                                        Sena 50 R

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                                        • Kenny Thierensundefined Kenny Thierens

                                          @Jay-Salvo so, the combination T865x with C1 controller is working well for you now that it's BT connected? All major functions are working? If so, I'll order one too. Just need to adjust it a bit to fit on my R1200RT handlebar.

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                                          @Kenny-Thierens Hi Kenny, I can get it to work with bluetooth connection but still not working with cable connection. After every update the tablet receives (which seems like 1 every other day) I have to go back in and reset the button configuration. It's a great system when working but very buggy. I can get it to work brilliantly with Kurviger though which isn't listed as a supported app so I will be using that until MRA sort the cable issue. I've messaged Joao on the DMD2 forum about it and he replied its on his Todo list but I can't see him rushing to sort as it doesn't effect their app. I think it will require a collaboration of MRA, Silverfox and users to nag him to move it along.

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