Zooming in CarPlay & Android Auto

[Corjan Meijerink]

@silberfuchs67 It will be available in the 4.3.7 update coming week

[Fridjof]

@Corjan-Meijerink sieht schon mal ganz gut aus, fehlt noch der drive test
bedankt

[Gaetano 9]

Hi, today I tried the new version 4.3.7 ... Finally! Zoom works and also the movement with the finger of the map. Today second test on long distance. Let's see if there are no bugs ... Congratulations for the good work!

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[Léon Hassing]

Hi @Corjan-Meijerink . Yesterday I had my first drive with the new zooming functionality in Android Auto. It is a great improvement. Thank you for that. I have two questions about this:

• When I have the focus on the buttons like + or - the screen doesn't return to the default screen (without buttons). In that also the exit button overlays the maximum velocity sign. Only in certain cases, when I have the focus on the menu button, the screen returns to the default. Is this how it should to be and how much time does it take to return to default?

• Does the automatic zooming in and out stilll work? If yes, does it only happen in default screen or when the +/- buttons are not used, because it didn't see it.

[Fridjof]

Hy Corjan,
nice to have the Zoom and Pan on Android Auto,
the tricky thing is the dependency to the camera view (north, birdview and dynamic)
when changing the zoom manualy, often the view setting changes , there is no dedicated icon to inform about the selected view, on the phone or in other AA Apps like google maps this icon to change and provide feedback is available, no auto zoom in birdview?
is it a bigger part of work to add this to the AA Screen?
another thing is the screen layout of the direction and turn information, when looking to google map nav this looks more clean and less disturbing,
are there plans to change this ?
this two topics were the most anoying things while test driving
best regards

[Arno 0]

I've tried the new version a couple of times now in my car with CarPlay but it doesn't want to dynamically zoom in anymore. So it's stays on the same zoom level even if I'm driving slower or when entering a roundabout or exit. Very frustrating. Any ideas to solve this? Has maybe to do with my configuration but it has worked before. Thanks

Arno

[silberfuchs67]

@Arno-0
I tested the new version immediately after Release with CarPlay and had exactly the same issue / question. Hopefully it is not an issue sitting in front of the CarPlay device

[white.mouse]

@Arno-0 The solution to this is simple but at first I didn't know either: in the window where you have zoom and centring options, click again on the icon you used to open this zoom window. If you do this, MRA reverts to the Dynamic setting in which it automatically zooms again. If you wait until this window closes itself, MRA stays in "top camera" mode with fixed zoom and is thus not switched back!

De oplossing hiervoor is simpel maar ik wist het eerst ook niet.
In het venster waarin je zoom en centreer optie hebt nogmaals op het icoon klikken waarmee je dit zoom venster geopend hebt. Als je dit doet keert MRA terug naar de Dynamische instelling waarin hij weer automatisch zoomt.
Als je wacht tot dat dit venster zichzelf sluit, dan blijft MRA in de modus "bovenaf camera" met vaste zoom en wordt dus niet terug geswitched!

[Arno 0]

Dank voor je uitleg en ik ga het morgen even in de auto proberen.

[Adrian Avram]

@silberfuchs67 Android Auto is the same ... I prefer a downgrade than this this crap ....

[Léon Hassing]

@white-mouse Ik heb dit uitgeprobeerd, maar ik zie toch geen automatische zoom, nadat ik teruggegaan ben naar de dynamische instelling.

[M. Schrijver]

Vandaag weer gereden.
Een automatische zoom is er niet in AA. Je ziet af en toe wel een beweging dat op automatische zoom lijkt maar het is zo beperkt dat het geen naam van zoom mag hebben.
Omdat automatische zoom niet naar behoren werkt, heb ik door onduidelijkheid toch een paar keer een verkeerde afslag genomen.

Toevallig gisteren weer eens met HereWeGo gereden. Deze heeft wel netjes een werkende automatisch zoom in AA.
Komt er een afslag in beeld. Dan wordt er netjes steeds verder op die afslag ingezoomd. Na het nemen van de afslag wordt er weer uitgezoomd.
Nu vind ik de standaard zoom niveau van HereWeGo veel te ver uitgezoomd maar dat is een andere discussie.

[Fridjof]

@Corjan-Meijerink , selecting waypoint of AA screen not working, phone OK
yesterday i did a nice ride in our area, prepared a route like a brezel, used the route as a track with all waypoints (~every 2 km) .
at an unwantedt shortcut with rerouting active the ride went craczy and at the end mra quits, after restarting the route with deactivated rerouting I schoud start from poit 1 instead of point 29 infront of me, I tried to shortcut to the point by pressing the point om the AA Screen, nothing changes only the map where paned, by doing the same on the phone it works a expected and the restart of the Track / route work well.
is this a known problem, can you reproduce it?,
best regards,
Fridjof

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Fridjof Well, you by design from Android Auto (and CarPlay) not select anything on the map by tapping
This is a user distraction while driving so not permitted.

[GT JWR]

@white-mouse unless I misunderstand what your saying (and I don't think I am), this did not work for me either. I can use the +/- to zoom in or out as desired, which then stayed on that zoom level unless adjusted again. A click on the icon that opened the zoom level did absolutely nothing.

I'm with all the others on this issue - if zoom (among other things) does not work properly on CarPlay, the Next App is unusable to me.

Seems every update takes 3 steps forward and 2 steps backward - a lot of past issues that were solved seem to come back - like zoom, wapypoint skipping, online vs offline, unable to calculate, etc. Seems like each update overwrites a previous fix.

[Fridjof]

@Corjan-Meijerink
what is your solution to deal with this situation / problem?
regards

[Léon Hassing]

@Fridjof Is your finding related to the subject of this thread: Zooming in Carplay/Android auto?

[Fridjof]

@Léon-Hassing
zooming is one of the needed on screen interactions on the dash AA or CP screen,
when MRA offers a feature to go dirct to a further point to shorten a route or skip some points on the phone screen while in a driving session with AA, I like to have this option also on the AA screen,
while driving I ca change the APP, skip or pause mp3 files, having a phone call, but no manual option to solve a scrambled route operating the AA Screen, why i can zoom and pan the map, but not selecting a given way or shaping point for reroutind the loaded route?

[Con Hennekens]

@Fridjof, this basically comes down to Apple and Google limitations. They don't allow a lot of interaction in their apps. So the use of AA/CP comes with limitations. That is why many people prefer a native device.

[M. Schrijver]

Yes, AA/ACP has limitations.
For navigation apps, the biggest limitions i encounter are when you start a route or select a destination. These functionality is to limited in AA/ACP (in general).
But when the route is on your screen, then the limitations are not really limitations at all. Because when the navigation does it's job, then there is no need to touch the screen.

I am a fan of AA. Nice big built-in screen and a clean interface.