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  • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

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    @Nick-Carthew then my requirements are probably different.
    We are talking about favorites that I have accumulated in the favorites area on the left.
    I don't always see them on my cards with an icon (like here with the coffee cup).
    I only see a favorite when I click on it in the list, then the first window appears to accept it. My favorites have just a star as symbol.

    What is different for me? Are we talking about the same?

    PS: I am on the website.

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      I think we talk about personal POIs her, right? 😰 😥

      With them, I can follow the instrction.

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      • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

        I think we talk about personal POIs her, right? 😰 😥

        With them, I can follow the instrction.

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        @Jörgen said in Favourites, sharing:

        I think we talk about personal POIs her, right?

        Yes we are 😉

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          @Jörgen said in Favourites, sharing:

          I think we talk about personal POIs her, right?

          Yes we are 😉

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          @Con-Hennekens said in Favourites, sharing:

          @Jörgen said in Favourites, sharing:

          I think we talk about personal POIs her, right?

          Yes we are 😉

          But @Michael-Wilkinson asked for a way to share favourites. Do you have any ideas on this?

          I haven't found a way to share favos so far...

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            @Jörgen @Martin-Wilcke Sharing favourites is not really an option. Favourites in MRA are just a shortcut to use to add a favourite place to a route or to quickly position a regular start point. @Con-Hennekens was demonstrating how to convert favourites to POIs which you can then make a file of and share the file.
            No this isn't exactly what was being asked for but it is a workaround albeit a slow workaround!

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            • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

              @Con-Hennekens said in Favourites, sharing:

              @Jörgen said in Favourites, sharing:

              I think we talk about personal POIs her, right?

              Yes we are 😉

              But @Michael-Wilkinson asked for a way to share favourites. Do you have any ideas on this?

              I haven't found a way to share favos so far...

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              @Martin-Wilcke, My explanation above enables you to share your favorites in the form of POI. There is no option for sharing Favorites directly in MRA.
              That being said, I expect (or hope actually 😉 ) that in the webplanner overhaul planned for next year Favorites will be implemented as a category within POI. And also that sharing POI will be greatly re-invented.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                @Martin-Wilcke, My explanation above enables you to share your favorites in the form of POI. There is no option for sharing Favorites directly in MRA.
                That being said, I expect (or hope actually 😉 ) that in the webplanner overhaul planned for next year Favorites will be implemented as a category within POI. And also that sharing POI will be greatly re-invented.

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                @Con-Hennekens @Nick-Carthew

                Now I'm just as confused as @Jörgen .

                When I click on a favorite, it is displayed as a "star" on the map and I can add it as a waypoint (routepoint) but not as a POI. When I click "X", the favorite disappears from the map:

                Favo.jpg

                I don't think you mean favorites, but custom POIs, which are listed under ‘POIs of interest > Manage’.
                Right?

                EDIT: 'POIs of Interest > Library', not '... Manage'.

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                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                  @Martin-Wilcke, My explanation above enables you to share your favorites in the form of POI. There is no option for sharing Favorites directly in MRA.
                  That being said, I expect (or hope actually 😉 ) that in the webplanner overhaul planned for next year Favorites will be implemented as a category within POI. And also that sharing POI will be greatly re-invented.

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                  @Con-Hennekens said in Favourites, sharing:

                  And also that sharing POI will be greatly re-invented.

                  We all hope so, and that's how it will certainly turn out! 👍 😁

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                  • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                    @Con-Hennekens @Nick-Carthew

                    Now I'm just as confused as @Jörgen .

                    When I click on a favorite, it is displayed as a "star" on the map and I can add it as a waypoint (routepoint) but not as a POI. When I click "X", the favorite disappears from the map:

                    Favo.jpg

                    I don't think you mean favorites, but custom POIs, which are listed under ‘POIs of interest > Manage’.
                    Right?

                    EDIT: 'POIs of Interest > Library', not '... Manage'.

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                    @Martin-Wilcke Yes, that is correct. Open the favourite to get the position and then add a custom POI in it's place.

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                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                      @Michael-Wilkinson, it can be done but it is not easy. Especially of you already have an extensive list of Favorites, it will be tedious work...

                      Create a new route, call it "Bikergroup Favos" or something
                      Open your favorites list
                      click a favo you want to share, it will show on the map, zoomed in

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                      Click the X to close the option box and click the Favo on the map now
                      Click the + symbol and choose "POI"

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                      If you do this for all Favorite points you wish to share, you have created an empty exportable route that contains only these POI. You can share that route, and members can export it to GPX and import it as a POI library. Or you can share the exported GPX directly and others can import it into their POI libraries.

                      This can be a lot of work to start with, but a lot less once you catch up and only need to add new POI. I believe this is also how @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA maintains the list of bike closures in the Netherlands.

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                      Thank's, @Nick-Carthew, I got it now.

                      I was misled by

                      Click the X to close the option box and click the Favo on the map now

                      as no favorite is shown on the map after closing the dialogue box.

                      @Nick-Carthew said in Favourites, sharing:

                      and then add a custom POI in it's place.

                      That's it.

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                      • Michael Wilkinsonundefined Michael Wilkinson

                        I use the favourites list to store details of cafes etc that my group of bikers pals and I visit over the course of our weekly ride outs. I also note any places to potentially visit at some future point. I have been asked to share this list with friends who are MRA users. Can I do this - either via MRA or by email?

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                        @Michael-Wilkinson

                        I Had the same question and found no way to get it done in MRA(In a simple way 🙂 ).

                        I got myself working in Excel to find a POI solution with the help of the Visual basic inside. Have been programming 15 years ago in VB, so that was for me the short time solution.

                        When starting a route I mostly use google to find interesting places or get some POI GPX File.

                        As one of the MRA forum members came with a request I started buiding a tool in Excel that will import GPX data found on the internet and get it in excel to edit to my needs.
                        As I have a Garmin Montana for Walking I also want to use the POI in the Garmin.
                        Most of the POI have only one field, and I wanted to add as much as I can in this field, but also use the full POI of Garmin/Basecamp.
                        Lets get an example of the way I work now.

                        Working on the holidays I found for example some data in Google My Maps
                        Google maps Slovenia.PNG

                        I can export the KML file and import it in my Excel Tool.
                        (to be honest, the KML import does not work yet, the export works.)
                        The imported data looks like this:
                        Imported.PNG

                        Now I can edit the file and look what will be interesting around the lake

                        In the menu I can look up the coordinates of a row in Google, for example I want to look if Cafe Belvedere is a place I want to visit...

                        Cafe Belvedere.PNG

                        That looks as a place I want to go!
                        Hotel Berc I will have a look also, as I want to stay there.
                        So far , so good.

                        As I have a Google API key, I can ask google to get me the address of both interesting places. I can place brackets on the places I want the adress from and Google will give me those. They are added in Orange between the brackets. If I have only the address of an interesting place, I let google get me the GPS coordinates.
                        After I get the address I can use this data also in the other colums to fill the Garmin/Basecamp data.

                        Excel POI Editor.PNG

                        The Symbol row I use to get the Garmin Icons.
                        After I am happy I can export it to a GPX file and import it into MRA and Basecamp.

                        Data Imported into Garmin:
                        Hotel GArmin.PNG

                        With MRA I have to upload the GPX in my POI database and I can use it there to add "My Favorites"
                        Inported MRA.PNG

                        Now I have all the POI in MRA, I can use them in my routes or add it to "My Favorites". You can see, the data from the name field is in MRA.
                        I can them make a routepoint of the POI and add more data like the picture for example.
                        Belvedere MRA.PNG

                        This still does not help you to share your favorites with your mates, but you can make a GPX or KML file of you points and share it, they can import them into MRA as POI.
                        Making a database in MRA is for now a lot of work, and in this way I am flexible untill the MRA team has made a way to export the POI's to the Garmin.

                        The Google API stuff it not ready yet to share, but the GPX import/Export works OK. If you have excel, I can share the file as it is now.

                        Regards,
                        Bert

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                        • BertMundefined BertM

                          @Michael-Wilkinson

                          I Had the same question and found no way to get it done in MRA(In a simple way 🙂 ).

                          I got myself working in Excel to find a POI solution with the help of the Visual basic inside. Have been programming 15 years ago in VB, so that was for me the short time solution.

                          When starting a route I mostly use google to find interesting places or get some POI GPX File.

                          As one of the MRA forum members came with a request I started buiding a tool in Excel that will import GPX data found on the internet and get it in excel to edit to my needs.
                          As I have a Garmin Montana for Walking I also want to use the POI in the Garmin.
                          Most of the POI have only one field, and I wanted to add as much as I can in this field, but also use the full POI of Garmin/Basecamp.
                          Lets get an example of the way I work now.

                          Working on the holidays I found for example some data in Google My Maps
                          Google maps Slovenia.PNG

                          I can export the KML file and import it in my Excel Tool.
                          (to be honest, the KML import does not work yet, the export works.)
                          The imported data looks like this:
                          Imported.PNG

                          Now I can edit the file and look what will be interesting around the lake

                          In the menu I can look up the coordinates of a row in Google, for example I want to look if Cafe Belvedere is a place I want to visit...

                          Cafe Belvedere.PNG

                          That looks as a place I want to go!
                          Hotel Berc I will have a look also, as I want to stay there.
                          So far , so good.

                          As I have a Google API key, I can ask google to get me the address of both interesting places. I can place brackets on the places I want the adress from and Google will give me those. They are added in Orange between the brackets. If I have only the address of an interesting place, I let google get me the GPS coordinates.
                          After I get the address I can use this data also in the other colums to fill the Garmin/Basecamp data.

                          Excel POI Editor.PNG

                          The Symbol row I use to get the Garmin Icons.
                          After I am happy I can export it to a GPX file and import it into MRA and Basecamp.

                          Data Imported into Garmin:
                          Hotel GArmin.PNG

                          With MRA I have to upload the GPX in my POI database and I can use it there to add "My Favorites"
                          Inported MRA.PNG

                          Now I have all the POI in MRA, I can use them in my routes or add it to "My Favorites". You can see, the data from the name field is in MRA.
                          I can them make a routepoint of the POI and add more data like the picture for example.
                          Belvedere MRA.PNG

                          This still does not help you to share your favorites with your mates, but you can make a GPX or KML file of you points and share it, they can import them into MRA as POI.
                          Making a database in MRA is for now a lot of work, and in this way I am flexible untill the MRA team has made a way to export the POI's to the Garmin.

                          The Google API stuff it not ready yet to share, but the GPX import/Export works OK. If you have excel, I can share the file as it is now.

                          Regards,
                          Bert

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                          @BertM Hi Bert, I am interested in the Excel-File. 😊

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                          • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                            Thank's, @Nick-Carthew, I got it now.

                            I was misled by

                            Click the X to close the option box and click the Favo on the map now

                            as no favorite is shown on the map after closing the dialogue box.

                            @Nick-Carthew said in Favourites, sharing:

                            and then add a custom POI in it's place.

                            That's it.

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                            @Martin-Wilcke said in Favourites, sharing:

                            I was misled by

                            Click the X to close the option box and click the Favo on the map now

                            Yes indeed. I am sorry for the confusion.

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                              @BertM Hi Bert, I am interested in the Excel-File. 😊

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                              @Jörgen

                              Hi Jörgen, I will clean the file up and translate the Dutch into English. 😉

                              I think I have the KML import also working, have to do some more testing...

                              As it is ready I will send you a link to download the file.

                              Bert

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                                @Jörgen

                                Hi Jörgen, I will clean the file up and translate the Dutch into English. 😉

                                I think I have the KML import also working, have to do some more testing...

                                As it is ready I will send you a link to download the file.

                                Bert

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                                @BertM Thank you 👍

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                                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                  @Martin-Wilcke said in Favourites, sharing:

                                  I was misled by

                                  Click the X to close the option box and click the Favo on the map now

                                  Yes indeed. I am sorry for the confusion.

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                                  @Con-Hennekens said in Favourites, sharing:

                                  Yes indeed. I am sorry for the confusion.

                                  No worries! I finally figured it out - and better understood what favourites are suitable for and where there are limitations. Thanks for sharing your workflow!

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