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  • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

    @RetiredWingMan

    Always use the Car mode to plan your routes!

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    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA said in Unable to route when avoiding highways:

    Always use the Car mode to plan your routes!

    I agree with @richard-3v. Such a bold statement screams for an explanation. I happen to know that our chief developer uses the motor profile as his go-to mode.

    @Don-Stauffer, That being said, if I place an extra waypoint between one and two, the motor profile calculates just fine. I do see a significant altering of the route between car and motorbike mode though. I think there are some length limits in place for calculation between waypoints, which might be different for motorbikes, or the the calculation for motorbikes crosses a hard universal limit. I really don't know.

    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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    • richard 3vundefined richard 3v

      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA said in Unable to route when avoiding highways:

      @RetiredWingMan

      Always use the Car mode to plan your routes!

      Why??, surely there is something amiss if that is the case!!

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      @richard-3v

      Because you have more option when you use the car profile.

      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA said in Unable to route when avoiding highways:

        Always use the Car mode to plan your routes!

        I agree with @richard-3v. Such a bold statement screams for an explanation. I happen to know that our chief developer uses the motor profile as his go-to mode.

        @Don-Stauffer, That being said, if I place an extra waypoint between one and two, the motor profile calculates just fine. I do see a significant altering of the route between car and motorbike mode though. I think there are some length limits in place for calculation between waypoints, which might be different for motorbikes, or the the calculation for motorbikes crosses a hard universal limit. I really don't know.

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        @Con-Hennekens I only here you stating that the devs would use this bike profile. He never admitted that. But besides that. The bike profile only gives you trouble. Look at the many posts on this subject on the forum. Yes it would help if the devs would share their opinion on this subject

        Honda Goldwing GL1500,
        Honda Silverwing GL 650
        DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
        Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
        Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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        • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

          @Con-Hennekens I only here you stating that the devs would use this bike profile. He never admitted that. But besides that. The bike profile only gives you trouble. Look at the many posts on this subject on the forum. Yes it would help if the devs would share their opinion on this subject

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          @Marinus-van-Deudekom, you can take my word for that fact 😉
          I see most "trouble" with the motorbike-profile being that it does not behave exactly like the car-profile. But if it did, we wouldn't need a motorbike profile, would we. I am the first to admit that it needs improvement, but unless you need "shortest" route optimisation, I see no real reason to abandon the motorbike profile.

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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          • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

            @richard-3v

            Because you have more option when you use the car profile.

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            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA said in Unable to route when avoiding highways:

            @richard-3v

            Because you have more option when you use the car profile.

            If that is the case why not include these options in the Motorcycle profile, or simply delete the Motorcyle profile altogether.

            Sorry, but I fail to see the logic.

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            • richard 3vundefined richard 3v

              @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA said in Unable to route when avoiding highways:

              @richard-3v

              Because you have more option when you use the car profile.

              If that is the case why not include these options in the Motorcycle profile, or simply delete the Motorcyle profile altogether.

              Sorry, but I fail to see the logic.

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              @richard-3v

              Further to my post above, I have been having a look at the differences between "Car" and "Motorcycle". Up to now the only difference I have found is, as alluded to by @Con-Hennekens, the car profile has a "Shortest route" option whereas "Motorbike" defaults to "Fastest".

              Are there other differences that I have yet to find??

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              • richard 3vundefined richard 3v

                @richard-3v

                Further to my post above, I have been having a look at the differences between "Car" and "Motorcycle". Up to now the only difference I have found is, as alluded to by @Con-Hennekens, the car profile has a "Shortest route" option whereas "Motorbike" defaults to "Fastest".

                Are there other differences that I have yet to find??

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                @richard-3v

                No, not that i know

                Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                • richard 3vundefined richard 3v

                  @richard-3v

                  Further to my post above, I have been having a look at the differences between "Car" and "Motorcycle". Up to now the only difference I have found is, as alluded to by @Con-Hennekens, the car profile has a "Shortest route" option whereas "Motorbike" defaults to "Fastest".

                  Are there other differences that I have yet to find??

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                  @richard-3v it would seem that there slight differences in the Here algorithms and there are motorcycle restrictions on some roads although this seems to be a strictly European thing. I've never heard of it in North Ameruca.

                  2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                  • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

                    @richard-3v it would seem that there slight differences in the Here algorithms and there are motorcycle restrictions on some roads although this seems to be a strictly European thing. I've never heard of it in North Ameruca.

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                    OK all, thanks for all your responses, much appreciated.
                    I do like to TRY and understand things, although I'm far removed from a "tech" expert 😁

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                    • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

                      @richard-3v it would seem that there slight differences in the Here algorithms and there are motorcycle restrictions on some roads although this seems to be a strictly European thing. I've never heard of it in North Ameruca.

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                      RouteXperts
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                      @RetiredWingMan but unfortunately the bike profile doesn't react on roads closed so there was the actual reason to ever use the bike and it's a no show

                      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                      Honda Silverwing GL 650
                      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                      Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                      Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom, you can take my word for that fact 😉
                        I see most "trouble" with the motorbike-profile being that it does not behave exactly like the car-profile. But if it did, we wouldn't need a motorbike profile, would we. I am the first to admit that it needs improvement, but unless you need "shortest" route optimisation, I see no real reason to abandon the motorbike profile.

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                        RouteXperts
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                        @Con-Hennekens I'm willing to take your word for it. The fact that he doesn't give his opinion on this subject says a lot.
                        Instead of picking on eachother it might be better to have a solid statement regarding the technical issues on this subject. I'll wait patiëntly on that answer from our devs

                        Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                        Honda Silverwing GL 650
                        DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                        Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                        Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                        • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                          @Con-Hennekens I'm willing to take your word for it. The fact that he doesn't give his opinion on this subject says a lot.
                          Instead of picking on eachother it might be better to have a solid statement regarding the technical issues on this subject. I'll wait patiëntly on that answer from our devs

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                          @Marinus-van-Deudekom, I am not picking on anyone. I am sorry you feel that way. I am just explaining what I know.

                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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