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  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

    @CD130 thanks! 🙂

    Won’t happen. Not so much about the challenge but just severely complicates stuff regarding performance / experience.

    If you want a subfolder added, it’s just 2 clicks (open folder & add all) - not worth it to automate 🙂

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    @Corjan-Meijerink What I would find very cool is the ability to see the entire library in one overview. This way I can easily see if I have driven a certain road before. I thought this would be possible by adding subfolders, but so the problem is more in the limit of 20 routes? Hope this is still possible in the future. I think @HighPeakRider indicates the same wish.

    But, as mentioned, this is already a fantastic update 👍👊

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    • paul69undefined paul69

      hi @Corjan-Meijerink

      you seem to be acting on almost every wish, could you point me to every bar that sells free beer with chips and curry wurst 🤣

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      @paul69 said in Route overview improvements!:

      bar that sells free beer

      wrong grammar, you can't sell free beer, 😂

      to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️

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        hi @Corjan-Meijerink

        you seem to be acting on almost every wish, could you point me to every bar that sells free beer with chips and curry wurst 🤣

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        @paul69 come by the office! 😉

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        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

          @paul69 come by the office! 😉

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          @Corjan-Meijerink said in Route overview improvements!:

          come by the office!

          it's a date sir

          to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️

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          • Tim Verhaafundefined Offline
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            Awesome improvements !

            However, I did notice when I for example add 2 additional routes to a route (and the have their own colors), and then exit this route and return again, it really shortly (short "blip") shows the 2 extra routes with their own colour, but then "dissapear" behind the main route.
            So the 2 added routes with colour "hide" behind the black main route.

            Only way to get them back is to delete the 2 added routes and select them again.

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            • Tim Verhaafundefined Tim Verhaaf

              Awesome improvements !

              However, I did notice when I for example add 2 additional routes to a route (and the have their own colors), and then exit this route and return again, it really shortly (short "blip") shows the 2 extra routes with their own colour, but then "dissapear" behind the main route.
              So the 2 added routes with colour "hide" behind the black main route.

              Only way to get them back is to delete the 2 added routes and select them again.

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              #31

              Hi @Tim-Verhaaf can you please expand/explain in more detail how you get the main route to appear on top of the added routes?

              I cannot get this to happen, for me the main route is always hidden below the added routes 0e299ed8-b201-4ea3-bf77-9355621747f0-image.png

              For me this displaying the main route on top would be more helpful than having the added routes on top. A couple of posts above I have requested the additon of a visibility checkbox for the added routes, similar to that in the POI library section, as this would a lot more flexability & avoid having to delete/re-add routes

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              • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

                Hi @Tim-Verhaaf can you please expand/explain in more detail how you get the main route to appear on top of the added routes?

                I cannot get this to happen, for me the main route is always hidden below the added routes 0e299ed8-b201-4ea3-bf77-9355621747f0-image.png

                For me this displaying the main route on top would be more helpful than having the added routes on top. A couple of posts above I have requested the additon of a visibility checkbox for the added routes, similar to that in the POI library section, as this would a lot more flexability & avoid having to delete/re-add routes

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                @Brian-McG

                In my example my 2 additional routes are parts of the same main route, but I divided this main route in 3 parts (from start to coffee, from coffee to lunch, from lunch to end point)

                1. Open a main route
                2. Add a additional route (so 1 out of 3 from the main route)
                3. Add another additional route (so 2 out of 3 from the main route)
                  Now you see the main route (in black) and 2 additional routes (in colour) overlaid on the black main route.
                  So the only black part you see is the final third of the route (from lunch to end point)
                4. Close the main route (so exit the route planner), by going back to route-lab.
                5. re-open the same main route that you just closed
                  There is a short "blip" of the 2 colour additional routes (1 of 3 and 2 of 3) but within a second they disappear under the main route, so the entire route is now black)

                As you can see on the top picture, the additional routes are still "active" but don't show op, they are "under" the main black route.

                The bottom picture is when I just added the additional routes before closing out of the route planner.

                For your wish to display the main route on top: you can perhaps play with the opacity of the colors, so the black main route is better visible....???

                [link text]([link url](2.jpg 1.jpg link url))

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                • Tim Verhaafundefined Tim Verhaaf

                  @Brian-McG

                  In my example my 2 additional routes are parts of the same main route, but I divided this main route in 3 parts (from start to coffee, from coffee to lunch, from lunch to end point)

                  1. Open a main route
                  2. Add a additional route (so 1 out of 3 from the main route)
                  3. Add another additional route (so 2 out of 3 from the main route)
                    Now you see the main route (in black) and 2 additional routes (in colour) overlaid on the black main route.
                    So the only black part you see is the final third of the route (from lunch to end point)
                  4. Close the main route (so exit the route planner), by going back to route-lab.
                  5. re-open the same main route that you just closed
                    There is a short "blip" of the 2 colour additional routes (1 of 3 and 2 of 3) but within a second they disappear under the main route, so the entire route is now black)

                  As you can see on the top picture, the additional routes are still "active" but don't show op, they are "under" the main black route.

                  The bottom picture is when I just added the additional routes before closing out of the route planner.

                  For your wish to display the main route on top: you can perhaps play with the opacity of the colors, so the black main route is better visible....???

                  [link text]([link url](2.jpg 1.jpg link url))

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                  @Tim-Verhaaf many thanks for the detailed explanation it has helped me enormously 👍
                  I think my issue (& possibly yours) can be resolved by using the "Route line transparency" tool
                  cbc24a6a-a177-4c34-93cf-9f8ccfa3daaa-image.png
                  This enables me to "choose" which line comes to the top

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                  • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

                    @Tim-Verhaaf many thanks for the detailed explanation it has helped me enormously 👍
                    I think my issue (& possibly yours) can be resolved by using the "Route line transparency" tool
                    cbc24a6a-a177-4c34-93cf-9f8ccfa3daaa-image.png
                    This enables me to "choose" which line comes to the top

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                    #34

                    @Brian-McG

                    Haha I just edited my previous message to you with the same idea 🙂

                    But however, the colors should not "hide" under the main route when re-opening the route.
                    You should not "have to" play with the transparency of colors.

                    The transparency you suggest in your last message is applied to the black main route.
                    You an also play with transparancy of the additional routes. (right next to the place where you choose to colour)
                    By clicking on the small colored square and then adjust the transparency slider.

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                    • Tim Verhaafundefined Tim Verhaaf

                      @Brian-McG

                      Haha I just edited my previous message to you with the same idea 🙂

                      But however, the colors should not "hide" under the main route when re-opening the route.
                      You should not "have to" play with the transparency of colors.

                      The transparency you suggest in your last message is applied to the black main route.
                      You an also play with transparancy of the additional routes. (right next to the place where you choose to colour)
                      By clicking on the small colored square and then adjust the transparency slider.

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                      #35

                      @Tim-Verhaaf I think your solution of adjusting the transparency of the added routes is better
                      The Toolkit > Route Line Transparency option affects the main route for all routes in your library, so maybe not the best to change
                      Changing the transparency of the added routes means it only effects the added route in that particualr route file
                      Thanks

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                      • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

                        @Tim-Verhaaf I think your solution of adjusting the transparency of the added routes is better
                        The Toolkit > Route Line Transparency option affects the main route for all routes in your library, so maybe not the best to change
                        Changing the transparency of the added routes means it only effects the added route in that particualr route file
                        Thanks

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                        #36

                        @Brian-McG

                        Sounds good.
                        I am still curious to see / await response from MRA to see if my initial comment / question is a glitch of some sort.

                        I'll wait and see 🙂

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                          I cheated with mine and made a short route just down one road , I use this as the base route then add all the others.

                          I'm only using this to select a route to ride or identify roads I've not ridden in my area.

                          Screenshot 2024-08-03 at 15.38.52.png

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                          • Tim Verhaafundefined Tim Verhaaf

                            Awesome improvements !

                            However, I did notice when I for example add 2 additional routes to a route (and the have their own colors), and then exit this route and return again, it really shortly (short "blip") shows the 2 extra routes with their own colour, but then "dissapear" behind the main route.
                            So the 2 added routes with colour "hide" behind the black main route.

                            Only way to get them back is to delete the 2 added routes and select them again.

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                            @Tim-Verhaaf not sure really 🙂

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                            • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                              @Tim-Verhaaf not sure really 🙂

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                              @Corjan-Meijerink

                              Dank je wel / Thanks Corjan.
                              Wie weet wordt het nog verholpen in een update 🙂 / Hopefully it can be resolved in a update.

                              Maar sowieso is jullie software fantastisch om mee te werken, geniet er elke keer weer van ! / But the software you guys have created is really wonderful, I enjoy it every time I use it !

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                              • HighPeakRiderundefined HighPeakRider

                                I cheated with mine and made a short route just down one road , I use this as the base route then add all the others.

                                I'm only using this to select a route to ride or identify roads I've not ridden in my area.

                                Screenshot 2024-08-03 at 15.38.52.png

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                                @HighPeakRider said in Route overview improvements!:

                                I cheated with mine and made a short route just down one road ,

                                hi @HighPeakRider that's a great shout, i have just done the same in my folders, small route of 100m and called AAA so its at the top of my folder list.
                                cheers for the idea.

                                to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️

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                                  I called it just overview. 😂

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                                  • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink this is awesome, great update!

                                    One of my primary uses of this feature will be to communicate about multi-day trips with other participants. In that light, it would be great if the added routes would also persist when adding the route to a group or event. Or even better (as others have mentioned), if that could be automated so there's an automatic overview of the routes in the group or event.

                                    But it's already great to be able to do it once for my own routes and then have it persist.

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                                    @Herko-ter-Horst said in Route overview improvements!:

                                    One of my primary uses of this feature will be to communicate about multi-day trips with other participants. In that light, it would be great if the added routes would also persist when adding the route to a group or event.

                                    @Herko-ter-Horst this is definitely something that I think would be really useful

                                    The new route overview improvements are really great as can be seen from all the colourful screenshots of multiple routes but unfortunately the only way to share this wonder is via a screenshot.
                                    If I have a route with multiple other routes displayed only I can see this,
                                    as @Herko-ter-Horst say it would be great if the added route overviews were visible to friends/public & in Events & Groups

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