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Auto skip many waypoints by itself while I was on route. [5.2.0 - 474]

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  • Marinus van Deudekom Do not disturb
    Marinus van Deudekom Do not disturb
    Marinus van Deudekom
    RouteXpert
    wrote last edited by
    #16

    My guess is that it's normal behavior because you've stated that MRA saw nr 7 as the nearest point therefore skipping 1 to 6

    Honda Goldwing GL1500,
    Honda Silverwing GL 650
    DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
    Garmin XT sold
    Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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    • M. Schrijver Offline
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      M. Schrijver
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      wrote last edited by
      #17

      You can see it as normal behaviour. But there are more ways to look at it.
      The selected startpoint of the route is kind of an endpoint for the extra added part of the route. An endpoint normally doesn't change.
      Another point of view. When you are riding the route and you are deviating from the route and the next waypoint is still ahead of you. The navigation won't skip this one either.

      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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      • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

        You can see it as normal behaviour. But there are more ways to look at it.
        The selected startpoint of the route is kind of an endpoint for the extra added part of the route. An endpoint normally doesn't change.
        Another point of view. When you are riding the route and you are deviating from the route and the next waypoint is still ahead of you. The navigation won't skip this one either.

        Brian McG Offline
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        Brian McG
        wrote last edited by
        #18

        @M.-Schrijver I agree with @marinus-van-deudekom the system is pretty much doing what you asked it to do

        your settings "My standard setting is "Closest point" as start point when (re)starting a route." set the system up to designate point #7 as the start

        when this is locked into MRA & you then deviate & cause a recalculation, it is going to recalculate to point #7

        BlackView BV7100, Android 12
        Navigate "Routes as Tracks" in Offline mode with Offline Maps
        No Wifi, no internet, no interruptions, works well

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        • M. Schrijver Offline
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          M. Schrijver
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          wrote last edited by
          #19

          That is just a different opinion. When i select a different point to start from, i expect the navigation stick to this point. No matter what happens during the trip to that selected point. Otherwise there is no reason to select a different point.
          There are only 2 options. Startpoint (first point) or closest point. Either way following your explanation. In both situations i don't gonna be where i want to be.

          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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          • RetiredWingMan Offline
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            RetiredWingMan
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            wrote last edited by
            #20

            I agree that MRA should not have skipped waypoints to wp7 on a recalculation.

            2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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            • stuart marritt Offline
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              #21

              There is a simple solution to these issues!

              Turn off auto skip waypoints!

              We had similar issues where it would randomly skip waypoints. There is 7 of us that sometimes we all had the problem and other times it was two or three of us.

              We have all turned off auto skip waypoints and we skip them as and when we need to manually.

              The next issue we need to figure out is why sometimes 2 people in the group end up with a different route than the one that was planned! coincidentally its the two who are using offline maps but that's for a different thread

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              • stuart marritt stuart marritt

                There is a simple solution to these issues!

                Turn off auto skip waypoints!

                We had similar issues where it would randomly skip waypoints. There is 7 of us that sometimes we all had the problem and other times it was two or three of us.

                We have all turned off auto skip waypoints and we skip them as and when we need to manually.

                The next issue we need to figure out is why sometimes 2 people in the group end up with a different route than the one that was planned! coincidentally its the two who are using offline maps but that's for a different thread

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                #22

                hi @stuart-marritt said:

                The next issue we need to figure out is why sometimes 2 people in the group end up with a different route than the one that was planned!

                sorry this has nothing to do with the OP, just thought I'd comment on the above.
                funnily enough, I had this issue during the last weekend. me and a ridding buddy spent two days in lakes, I planned the routes on my computer, and as usual I always use the compare tool to make sure there are no nasty surprises.
                My friend accessed the routes through the friends tab, both our devices are set up the same way in settings, although mine does not have internet as no SIM card, so obviously offline navigation. Android on rugged tablet.
                He uses his phone iPhone 16 using NN also with offline navigation enabled.
                when we compared the routes on our devices, both of the routes had changed on his, not a huge amount, but enough to make it like the red arrows at some junctions. some of the waypoints for him were skipped and others tried to get him to go back, did not happen on mine.
                I could not understand the reason for this, I checked all settings and everything was exactly the same.
                I think it might be something to do with internet access even tho offline nav is enabled, this is the only difference in our set up, save for android and IOS.
                it did not spoil the rides as we were aware of the parts where NN would try to send him a different way.

                to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                K1600 GTL
                Oukitel RT3
                iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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                • stuart marritt stuart marritt

                  There is a simple solution to these issues!

                  Turn off auto skip waypoints!

                  We had similar issues where it would randomly skip waypoints. There is 7 of us that sometimes we all had the problem and other times it was two or three of us.

                  We have all turned off auto skip waypoints and we skip them as and when we need to manually.

                  The next issue we need to figure out is why sometimes 2 people in the group end up with a different route than the one that was planned! coincidentally its the two who are using offline maps but that's for a different thread

                  M. Schrijver Offline
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                  M. Schrijver
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #23

                  @stuart-marritt said:

                  There is a simple solution to these issues!

                  Turn off auto skip waypoints!

                  A better solution. Use no points at all.

                  (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                  • RetiredWingMan Offline
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #24

                    Went out for a 400km ride today. Everything worked great. Did a detour manually due to construction. MRA attempted to reroute me 4 times and then skipped a waypoint and I was back on route. Maybe next time I'll try the new feature for devouring around construction.

                    2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                    • paul69 paul69

                      hi @stuart-marritt said:

                      The next issue we need to figure out is why sometimes 2 people in the group end up with a different route than the one that was planned!

                      sorry this has nothing to do with the OP, just thought I'd comment on the above.
                      funnily enough, I had this issue during the last weekend. me and a ridding buddy spent two days in lakes, I planned the routes on my computer, and as usual I always use the compare tool to make sure there are no nasty surprises.
                      My friend accessed the routes through the friends tab, both our devices are set up the same way in settings, although mine does not have internet as no SIM card, so obviously offline navigation. Android on rugged tablet.
                      He uses his phone iPhone 16 using NN also with offline navigation enabled.
                      when we compared the routes on our devices, both of the routes had changed on his, not a huge amount, but enough to make it like the red arrows at some junctions. some of the waypoints for him were skipped and others tried to get him to go back, did not happen on mine.
                      I could not understand the reason for this, I checked all settings and everything was exactly the same.
                      I think it might be something to do with internet access even tho offline nav is enabled, this is the only difference in our set up, save for android and IOS.
                      it did not spoil the rides as we were aware of the parts where NN would try to send him a different way.

                      Brian McG Offline
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                      Brian McG
                      wrote last edited by
                      #25

                      @paul69 did you both have the same version of offline maps loaded?
                      7e273314-0ebc-4d5b-81c4-d1b61b0a982c-image.jpeg
                      if the underlying map data is different then the routing calculation between points could calculate differently

                      what happens if you set both devices to ride the paths as a track?

                      BlackView BV7100, Android 12
                      Navigate "Routes as Tracks" in Offline mode with Offline Maps
                      No Wifi, no internet, no interruptions, works well

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                      • Brian McG Brian McG

                        @paul69 did you both have the same version of offline maps loaded?
                        7e273314-0ebc-4d5b-81c4-d1b61b0a982c-image.jpeg
                        if the underlying map data is different then the routing calculation between points could calculate differently

                        what happens if you set both devices to ride the paths as a track?

                        paul69 Offline
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                        paul69
                        wrote last edited by
                        #26

                        hi @Brian-McG

                        thanks for the map tip, TBH that was the one thing I did not check, but the roads we were on are well established and have never changed in many years.
                        We were riding routes as routes.
                        I had thought of changing it to "as tracks" although as I wrote it did not cause any riding issues, as we were aware of the discrepancies.

                        It was more about pointing out the issue, as the one which had changed had Internet access, but offline nav enabled.

                        it may be a useful point for anyone else if they come across this issue when riding in groups, which I guess would be better for everyone to use tracks.
                        One point on that, when I select this option, I always get the "go online for better track navigation" or words to that effect, can't remember off hand. My NN is on a tablet with no SIM card, therefore never any internet access.
                        ✌️

                        to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
                        K1600 GTL
                        Oukitel RT3
                        iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b

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