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Why does route change when connecting to Android Auto?

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    #9

    Ja. De navigatie werkt altijd met de Here map. Dus als je een route maakt met een andere kaart als laatste de route op de Here-kaart leggen en controleren.

    Yes. The navigation system always uses the Here map. So if you plan a route using a different map, make sure to finalize the route on the Here map and check it.

    met een R1250RT met TFT en BMW Connected Ride App (die dus nog steeds niet voldoet!) ;
    de Garmin Zumo XT en M.R.A. in combinatie met de Carpuride W702 (voor Android op de Motor!)

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      Thanks for the replies. I do use the here maps and I use MRA in offline mode. I shall keep monitoring the situation to see if it keeps happening. I have an existing route planned for tomorrow, so I'll see if it behaves itself or not.

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        Als ik de knop start indruk van de route dan verschijnt er een popup schermpje met de tekst; 'TomTom route Track navigatie gebruiken'
        Wat betekend dit???

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          Using here maps only is no guarantee that the navigation comes with the same route as what you crafted in the planner. At least that is what I have observed. Dont know where the problem is. Could it be that planner and navigation are not using the same user settings? Differences between the routing engine in the app and on the server?

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          • Herman Veldhuizenundefined Herman Veldhuizen

            Using here maps only is no guarantee that the navigation comes with the same route as what you crafted in the planner. At least that is what I have observed. Dont know where the problem is. Could it be that planner and navigation are not using the same user settings? Differences between the routing engine in the app and on the server?

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            @Herman-Veldhuizen Or maybe you should use more route points at critical locations! I use as few as possible, but as many as necessary... šŸ˜‰

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            • Herman Veldhuizenundefined Herman Veldhuizen

              Using here maps only is no guarantee that the navigation comes with the same route as what you crafted in the planner. At least that is what I have observed. Dont know where the problem is. Could it be that planner and navigation are not using the same user settings? Differences between the routing engine in the app and on the server?

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              @Herman-Veldhuizen said:

              Could it be that planner and navigation are not using the same user settings?

              No, theoretically not, since the avoidance settings in the planner replicate to the app along with the route. There can be differences in map-versions though, and also of course in trafic information.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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              • Atse Kroesundefined Atse Kroes

                Als ik de knop start indruk van de route dan verschijnt er een popup schermpje met de tekst; 'TomTom route Track navigatie gebruiken'
                Wat betekend dit???

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                @Atse-Kroes said:

                Als ik de knop start indruk van de route dan verschijnt er een popup schermpje met de tekst; 'TomTom route Track navigatie gebruiken'
                Wat betekend dit???

                Please try to adhere to the language in the opening topic.
                The message indicates that the route was planned on the TomTom map, and therefore will be navigated as a track instead of a route.

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                  @Herman-Veldhuizen said:

                  Could it be that planner and navigation are not using the same user settings?

                  No, theoretically not, since the avoidance settings in the planner replicate to the app along with the route. There can be differences in map-versions though, and also of course in trafic information.

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                  @Con-Hennekens There are more settings. The functional navigation settings in the profile.
                  What I observe is that when I navigate a route as track, a closure can be ignored, but only when I navigate from the opening page of the route. When I navigate from the in-app route editor the closure is not ignored.
                  In areas with few roads, like here in Norway, a closure of a road can have a big impact. So what the app navigation comes up with can be very different to what you crafted in the in app editor, all with the same type of maps.

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                  • Herman Veldhuizenundefined Herman Veldhuizen

                    @Con-Hennekens There are more settings. The functional navigation settings in the profile.
                    What I observe is that when I navigate a route as track, a closure can be ignored, but only when I navigate from the opening page of the route. When I navigate from the in-app route editor the closure is not ignored.
                    In areas with few roads, like here in Norway, a closure of a road can have a big impact. So what the app navigation comes up with can be very different to what you crafted in the in app editor, all with the same type of maps.

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                    @Herman-Veldhuizen, I was merely referring to @atse-kroes addition.
                    To answer your comment, I think when you open a route in the app-planner, and the detour is already shown there, that becomes the new "original calculation" of the route.

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                      @Herman-Veldhuizen, I was merely referring to @atse-kroes addition.
                      To answer your comment, I think when you open a route in the app-planner, and the detour is already shown there, that becomes the new "original calculation" of the route.

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                      wrote last edited by Herman Veldhuizen
                      #18

                      @Con-Hennekens not sure what you mean, but all what I am after is consistency. Ignoring closures might be the right thing to do but then i would like to see the same in the in-app route editor, without having to sprinkle my route with waypoints which don't represent anything and without having to change some settings between editing and navigating. The in-app editor is the only editor I ever use.

                      The images below illustrate the issue.

                      The first one shows my mini test route in the editor.
                      The 2nd and 3rd show what I can see during navigation (route as track). Sometimes the 2nd, sometimes the 3rd.

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