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Issues since the 5.1.0-462 update / Crashes and lag

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  • Marinus van Deudekom Marinus van Deudekom

    Massimo did you send in the log files so support can have a look at it.
    What you experiance is certainly not meant to be. It is however strange that there is so much diversity. Some users have no problems and others, like you, have a lot.
    Can you pinpoint the moments it goes wrong. That might help finding the solution

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    #54

    @Marinus-van-Deudekom said:

    It is however strange that there is so much diversity. Some users have no problems and others, like you, have a lot.
    Can you pinpoint the moments it goes wrong.

    Hi Marinus,
    I don’t think it’s strange.
    I agree 100% with Massimo.

    The errors don’t occur straight after start-up, nor do they always happen at the same time – sometimes they only appear after hours, sometimes not at all, and sometimes as early as an hour later.

    I, too, have friends with all sorts of different set-ups – Android, iPhone and/or Apple CarPlay – who I travel with, and I experience these errors myself with them; however, these people aren’t registered here on the forum at all and don’t express their frustration or report these errors, because not everyone is willing to take the time to contribute here.

    It’s more a case of me hearing people say… ‘Oh well, I’ll just try something else.’

    Not everyone is as deeply involved in the subject as many users here on the forum; they just want a reliable navigationsystem.

    MRA was the best system on the market before the 5.0.1 update, and in my view, it remains the best even after the 5.0.2 update.

    In my view, there is also a difference between navigating offline and online.

    There are a wide variety of options and settings in MRA – Route, Track, online, offline, etc. – which is why the error does not occur for all users.

    However, it makes a huge difference whether I’m driving round on my own or just with one other person and have to stop quickly to restart the system, or whether I’m leading a group and then have to explain problems with the navigation system to the whole group!

    I’m absolutely delighted that Corjan was able to identify identical errors whilst on holiday – it’s proof, so to speak, that the many posts and reports of issues from users here are indeed real.

    But I’m sure Corjan will find the bug and will provide us an update soon, to make MRA great again 😉

    BMW R 1250 GS
    MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
    DMD-NOR7E 7"
    SPC Universal mount
    Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
    Sena SLR 3
    Sena 50 R

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    • Marinus van Deudekom Offline
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      Marinus van Deudekom
      RouteXpert
      wrote on last edited by
      #55

      Its not that MRA dev team doesn't take all those complaints serious. I know for a fact that they are trying with all their power and skills to isolatie the problem and fix it.

      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
      Honda Silverwing GL 650
      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
      Garmin XT sold
      Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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      • Marinus van Deudekom Marinus van Deudekom

        Its not that MRA dev team doesn't take all those complaints serious. I know for a fact that they are trying with all their power and skills to isolatie the problem and fix it.

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        #56

        @Marinus-van-Deudekom said:

        Its not that MRA dev team doesn't take all those complaints serious

        Nobody’s claiming that either!

        However, there are users on the forum who, for the reasons mentioned (track, online, offline, use, etc.), haven’t had any problems so far and therefore doubt that other users are experiencing issues.

        BMW R 1250 GS
        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
        DMD-NOR7E 7"
        SPC Universal mount
        Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
        Sena SLR 3
        Sena 50 R

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        • Kerbel Offline
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          wrote on last edited by Kerbel
          #57

          @marinus-van-deudekom Marinus, I fully agree to what @peter-zehentreiter wrote.

          • timing of crashing is very erratic: after 30min or a few hours
          • previous version 5.0.1 worked excellently without any probs

          Okay, one point I cannot confirm as MRA was switching from on- to offline automatically (but very often in the Vercors). So whether offline would help I don‘t know.
          And tracking, as mentionend in another post, did not make any difference.
          I‘m also confident that the MRA team takes these issues seriously and will provide a solution shortly.
          Currently I cannot check my navi-iphone but will do over the weekend and provide logfiles if available.
          BR & thanks for all your support
          Stefan

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          • Kerbel Kerbel

            @marinus-van-deudekom Marinus, I fully agree to what @peter-zehentreiter wrote.

            • timing of crashing is very erratic: after 30min or a few hours
            • previous version 5.0.1 worked excellently without any probs

            Okay, one point I cannot confirm as MRA was switching from on- to offline automatically (but very often in the Vercors). So whether offline would help I don‘t know.
            And tracking, as mentionend in another post, did not make any difference.
            I‘m also confident that the MRA team takes these issues seriously and will provide a solution shortly.
            Currently I cannot check my navi-iphone but will do over the weekend and provide logfiles if available.
            BR & thanks for all your support
            Stefan

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            Peter Zehentreiter
            wrote on last edited by
            #58

            @Kerbel said:

            previous version 5.0.1 worked excellently without any probs

            I’m afraid I have to disagree with you there.

            I did experience a single crash in version 5.0.1 as well… but after that I didn’t use it as often and then updated to 5.0.2.

            BMW R 1250 GS
            MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
            DMD-NOR7E 7"
            SPC Universal mount
            Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
            Sena SLR 3
            Sena 50 R

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              #59

              One thing I forgot to mention.
              After the crash I could rstart the app from the home screen, MRA asks me to proceed with navigation or not. After confirmation another push on Navigate-Button was necessary and the the navigation proceeded from the current position.
              But navigation was then always set to north not driving direction. Had to toggle with the compass icon.

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              • Kerbel Kerbel

                One thing I forgot to mention.
                After the crash I could rstart the app from the home screen, MRA asks me to proceed with navigation or not. After confirmation another push on Navigate-Button was necessary and the the navigation proceeded from the current position.
                But navigation was then always set to north not driving direction. Had to toggle with the compass icon.

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                wrote on last edited by
                #60

                @Kerbel Please do try riding completely offline.

                That would help to find out whether there’s a link to the mobile connection.

                I’ve got two devices attached to my motorbike:
                1 online, 1 offline

                I’ve never had any problems with the offline device

                BMW R 1250 GS
                MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                DMD-NOR7E 7"
                SPC Universal mount
                Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                Sena SLR 3
                Sena 50 R

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                • Peter Zehentreiter Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #61

                  My DMD-NOR7E is being delivered tomorrow 😀

                  Then I’ll test straight away to see if the crashes might be down to the hardware.

                  BMW R 1250 GS
                  MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                  DMD-NOR7E 7"
                  SPC Universal mount
                  Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                  Sena SLR 3
                  Sena 50 R

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                  • Roland Busenhart Offline
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                    Roland Busenhart
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                    #62

                    Today: 340 km in just under 6 hours from Hamburg to Eschwege, near Kassel—many sections of the route required frequent navigation instructions (very less highway, mostly country roads). Everything went smoothly; the track log could be saved.

                    Using MRA on
                    BMW R1300GSA with Carpuride CarPlay
                    Ducati Monster 937+
                    Honda X-ADV750
                    VW Golf R with CarPlay
                    VW Crafter/Eribacar600 with Carplay

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                    • Peter Zehentreiter Peter Zehentreiter

                      My DMD-NOR7E is being delivered tomorrow 😀

                      Then I’ll test straight away to see if the crashes might be down to the hardware.

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                      Marinus van Deudekom
                      RouteXpert
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #63

                      @Peter-Zehentreiter good luck with your new device.

                      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                      Honda Silverwing GL 650
                      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                      Garmin XT sold
                      Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                      • Marinus van Deudekom Marinus van Deudekom

                        @Peter-Zehentreiter good luck with your new device.

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #64

                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom Thank you

                        BMW R 1250 GS
                        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                        DMD-NOR7E 7"
                        SPC Universal mount
                        Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                        Sena SLR 3
                        Sena 50 R

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                        • Peter Zehentreiter Peter Zehentreiter

                          My DMD-NOR7E is being delivered tomorrow 😀

                          Then I’ll test straight away to see if the crashes might be down to the hardware.

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                          @Peter-Zehentreiter If it were the hardware's fault, we should all change devices...🤦🏼‍♂️

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                          • Aiello antonino Aiello antonino

                            @Peter-Zehentreiter If it were the hardware's fault, we should all change devices...🤦🏼‍♂️

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                            Peter Zehentreiter
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                            #66

                            @Aiello-antonino ✌️😎

                            BMW R 1250 GS
                            MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                            DMD-NOR7E 7"
                            SPC Universal mount
                            Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                            Sena SLR 3
                            Sena 50 R

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                              @peter-zehentreiter just back from a 5 day trip in france. Have to mention i did 2 week ago update to 5.2.0-474 and first day everthing working nice for a 10h trip.

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                              • Andries Andries

                                @peter-zehentreiter just back from a 5 day trip in france. Have to mention i did 2 week ago update to 5.2.0-474 and first day everthing working nice for a 10h trip.

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                                #68

                                @Andries You said everything was fine on the first day – how were the other days?

                                Did you use online or offline navigation?

                                BMW R 1250 GS
                                MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                DMD-NOR7E 7"
                                SPC Universal mount
                                Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                                Sena SLR 3
                                Sena 50 R

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                                  #69

                                  @peter-zehentreiter
                                  I have the Nor7E for about couple of mounths and this is a great device!! Coming from a chigee AOI6 and it's a huge improvement.

                                  2 weeks ago i did the update to 5.2.0 and did not experience any troubles on a trip for 6h.
                                  This week a went on a 5 day trip to france and for day 1 everything was working properly.
                                  Day 2 the problems starting to appear. After 1h riding i seen the lag on the navigation.

                                  If i touch the screen it doesn't respond directly. I had to wait and then i could move the map. Same if you wan to press an icon you had wait for 2s.
                                  Temperatur was 32°C outside.

                                  A friend of my was driving with iphone 15 pro max with chigee AOI6 mention the same problem but even worse!
                                  The first thing that i thought was the high temperature sow i ask my friend if he could put his phone in his jacket so it can cool down. For him this was the solution.
                                  The only thing that i could do is make GPX and used the DMD app that is installed on the Nor7E.
                                  The DMD app worked flawlessly and smooth in combination with the Silverfox C1.

                                  Today I am trying in my office the MRA navigation and there is lag when i move the map or zoom in/out.

                                  Please let me know how it works for you.

                                  Regards
                                  Andries

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                                  • Andries Andries

                                    @peter-zehentreiter
                                    I have the Nor7E for about couple of mounths and this is a great device!! Coming from a chigee AOI6 and it's a huge improvement.

                                    2 weeks ago i did the update to 5.2.0 and did not experience any troubles on a trip for 6h.
                                    This week a went on a 5 day trip to france and for day 1 everything was working properly.
                                    Day 2 the problems starting to appear. After 1h riding i seen the lag on the navigation.

                                    If i touch the screen it doesn't respond directly. I had to wait and then i could move the map. Same if you wan to press an icon you had wait for 2s.
                                    Temperatur was 32°C outside.

                                    A friend of my was driving with iphone 15 pro max with chigee AOI6 mention the same problem but even worse!
                                    The first thing that i thought was the high temperature sow i ask my friend if he could put his phone in his jacket so it can cool down. For him this was the solution.
                                    The only thing that i could do is make GPX and used the DMD app that is installed on the Nor7E.
                                    The DMD app worked flawlessly and smooth in combination with the Silverfox C1.

                                    Today I am trying in my office the MRA navigation and there is lag when i move the map or zoom in/out.

                                    Please let me know how it works for you.

                                    Regards
                                    Andries

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                                    @Andries Thanks for your detailed report.

                                    At least you didn’t experience any navigation dropouts, which I find quite remarkable.

                                    My device is still with DHL and will be delivered on Monday… I’ll definitely let you know how it performs for me.

                                    Did you connect the C1 via Bluetooth, or did you connect the controller using a cable?

                                    BMW R 1250 GS
                                    MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                    DMD-NOR7E 7"
                                    SPC Universal mount
                                    Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                                    Sena SLR 3
                                    Sena 50 R

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                                    • Peter Zehentreiter Peter Zehentreiter

                                      @Andries Thanks for your detailed report.

                                      At least you didn’t experience any navigation dropouts, which I find quite remarkable.

                                      My device is still with DHL and will be delivered on Monday… I’ll definitely let you know how it performs for me.

                                      Did you connect the C1 via Bluetooth, or did you connect the controller using a cable?

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                                      @Peter-Zehentreiter said:

                                      Did you connect the C1 via Bluetooth, or did you connect the controller using a cable?

                                      i have connect it via bluetooth.
                                      Don't forget to change the setting to F1 and not F2 for MRA.
                                      The controller in combination with DMD2 works beter and is configurable.

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                                        Today I navigated 500 km in just under 6 hours from the Kassel area back home—a total of 3 crashes: the first after about 1 hour and 15 minutes, the second after about 2.5 hours, and the last one just before reaching my destination. The app closed on my phone, but after reopening it, I was able to continue navigating. Once again, the track log couldn’t be saved. Sent the log files to support this evening.

                                        Using MRA on
                                        BMW R1300GSA with Carpuride CarPlay
                                        Ducati Monster 937+
                                        Honda X-ADV750
                                        VW Golf R with CarPlay
                                        VW Crafter/Eribacar600 with Carplay

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                                        • Andries Andries

                                          @Peter-Zehentreiter said:

                                          Did you connect the C1 via Bluetooth, or did you connect the controller using a cable?

                                          i have connect it via bluetooth.
                                          Don't forget to change the setting to F1 and not F2 for MRA.
                                          The controller in combination with DMD2 works beter and is configurable.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @Andries said:

                                          Don't forget to change the setting to F1 and not F2 for MRA.

                                          Are you sure?
                                          Right now my C1 is set to F2 and is working just perfect.

                                          BMW R 1250 GS
                                          MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                          DMD-NOR7E 7"
                                          SPC Universal mount
                                          Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                                          Sena SLR 3
                                          Sena 50 R

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