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  • richtea999undefined Offline
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    richtea999
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    Having read this interesting thread on the Route Library it occurs to me that many users like building their own routes, and not necessarily to be given them as a complete package.
    For example, I tend to take multiple published routes (from all over the net, inc Route Library), overlay them, and then chop them up and reconnect them to make own version.

    However, we can't easily build routes for areas we don't know without a lot of in-depth research. That is fun but motorcycle-specific information can sometimes be hard to find.

    A sweet option, and easier for everyone to take part in, would be a Great Roads Library.
    Features:

    • short sections of road (think Michelin green roads, but for motorbikes)
    • a short comment to say why the road is worthy of inclusion (scenery, curves, views, tarmac)
    • points of interest along the road (cafe, viewpoint)
    • open to all MRA members to submit, minimal barriers to submission
    • can be voted on (1-5 stars) with reviews, so the cream rises to the top
    • option to overlay them whilst route planning

    I know my area of the UK well enough to give tens and tens of great sections of road - some only 5 miles long, some 30 miles. If there were say 50 other UK members did the same for their area/county we would have a lovely spiders web of great roads to try.

    And the downsides:

    • someone has to code it (sorry, Corjan!)
    • someone has to moderate it (I would happily volunteer)

    There are similar offerings around but I've not yet found one good enough to use, let alone one incorporated into a route planner.

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    • richtea999undefined richtea999

      Having read this interesting thread on the Route Library it occurs to me that many users like building their own routes, and not necessarily to be given them as a complete package.
      For example, I tend to take multiple published routes (from all over the net, inc Route Library), overlay them, and then chop them up and reconnect them to make own version.

      However, we can't easily build routes for areas we don't know without a lot of in-depth research. That is fun but motorcycle-specific information can sometimes be hard to find.

      A sweet option, and easier for everyone to take part in, would be a Great Roads Library.
      Features:

      • short sections of road (think Michelin green roads, but for motorbikes)
      • a short comment to say why the road is worthy of inclusion (scenery, curves, views, tarmac)
      • points of interest along the road (cafe, viewpoint)
      • open to all MRA members to submit, minimal barriers to submission
      • can be voted on (1-5 stars) with reviews, so the cream rises to the top
      • option to overlay them whilst route planning

      I know my area of the UK well enough to give tens and tens of great sections of road - some only 5 miles long, some 30 miles. If there were say 50 other UK members did the same for their area/county we would have a lovely spiders web of great roads to try.

      And the downsides:

      • someone has to code it (sorry, Corjan!)
      • someone has to moderate it (I would happily volunteer)

      There are similar offerings around but I've not yet found one good enough to use, let alone one incorporated into a route planner.

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      wrote last edited by
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      @richtea999 Just thinking out loud: On paper, it seems like a good idea. But we need to think about it... would it be worth the effort/use? I have a couple of MRa user groups (one with over 500 members and another with over 1000) where we've carried out projects with tremendous effort, and over time, you realize that only one or two people use it, and even then, only sporadically. In fact, I canceled a couple of projects without warning months ago, and no one has mentioned missing them.
      Regarding interesting roads in the Michelin-type MRA database, we already have this tool, which I'm sure very few people use:

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      • Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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        Con Hennekens
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        Do I need to explain the recently added MRA RouteXperts and MRA Scenic layers? The first indicates roads used by existing RX routes, the second indicates roads with a certain twistyness. I also use streetview intensively.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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          wrote last edited by
          #4

          I honestly think @richtea999 has shared a fun idea.
          I can however also comment that we won't be working on something like this in the nearby future.

          Will be fun to think of integrating user content more directly once the foundations of the new website are built. Moderation and preserving quality is however critical and that's where the RouteXpert library excels in.

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          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

            Do I need to explain the recently added MRA RouteXperts and MRA Scenic layers? The first indicates roads used by existing RX routes, the second indicates roads with a certain twistyness. I also use streetview intensively.

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            wrote last edited by richtea999
            #5

            @Con-Hennekens said in Suggestions: Great Roads:

            Do I need to explain the recently added MRA RouteXperts and MRA Scenic layers? The first indicates roads used by existing RX routes, the second indicates roads with a certain twistyness. I also use streetview intensively.

            I see them, thanks Con. The MRA RouteXperts routes are useful, but the Scenic info is, frankly, weird in my area of the UK:

            scenic.jpg

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            • richtea999undefined richtea999

              @Con-Hennekens said in Suggestions: Great Roads:

              Do I need to explain the recently added MRA RouteXperts and MRA Scenic layers? The first indicates roads used by existing RX routes, the second indicates roads with a certain twistyness. I also use streetview intensively.

              I see them, thanks Con. The MRA RouteXperts routes are useful, but the Scenic info is, frankly, weird in my area of the UK:

              scenic.jpg

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              @richtea999, indeed, that line at Ladbroke seems te be a dirt trail

              a832396f-bea7-418b-bdff-41ba19780bba-image.png

              My guess is that the overlay is generated automatically, based on some filtering. It works better in mountainesque areas I suppose.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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              • Aiello antoninoundefined Offline
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                wrote last edited by Aiello antonino
                #7

                In Italy, we have just what you're looking for. We even created an app for this year's MotoMappa trophy. That's the name of the app, where you can find everything you need to know about creating a route, sorted by color!
                Brown = mountain passes
                Blue = roads to ride (curves that flow when navigating a motorcycle)
                Purple = secondary roads (the ones I really like)
                Yellow = dirt road
                Green = point of interest
                Here's a little video to show you what I'm talking about. It's fantastic. Since I'm a publisher, I've transferred the entire database to MRA.
                You can find the app for free on the iOS and Android stores.MOTOMAPPA😁
                Link to the video. https://youtube.com/shorts/t5M4FQUbfS0?si=2laVdXhOG5tpxguE

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                • Aiello antoninoundefined Aiello antonino

                  In Italy, we have just what you're looking for. We even created an app for this year's MotoMappa trophy. That's the name of the app, where you can find everything you need to know about creating a route, sorted by color!
                  Brown = mountain passes
                  Blue = roads to ride (curves that flow when navigating a motorcycle)
                  Purple = secondary roads (the ones I really like)
                  Yellow = dirt road
                  Green = point of interest
                  Here's a little video to show you what I'm talking about. It's fantastic. Since I'm a publisher, I've transferred the entire database to MRA.
                  You can find the app for free on the iOS and Android stores.MOTOMAPPA😁
                  Link to the video. https://youtube.com/shorts/t5M4FQUbfS0?si=2laVdXhOG5tpxguE

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                  @Aiello-antonino Salve, I am seriously interested in this app, as I travel a lot in Italy.
                  Unfortunately, I cannot find your app in the Play Store under Motomappa.

                  Could you please post a link to the app for Android?

                  Many thanks in advance.

                  Best regards,
                  Peter

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                  MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
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                  Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
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                  SPC Universal mount
                  Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
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                  • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                    @Aiello-antonino Salve, I am seriously interested in this app, as I travel a lot in Italy.
                    Unfortunately, I cannot find your app in the Play Store under Motomappa.

                    Could you please post a link to the app for Android?

                    Many thanks in advance.

                    Best regards,
                    Peter

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                    @Peter-Zehentreiter https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motoabbigliamento.motomappa

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                    • Aiello antoninoundefined Aiello antonino

                      @Peter-Zehentreiter https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motoabbigliamento.motomappa

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                      #10

                      @Aiello-antonino Thank you for the link to the Playstore.
                      When trying to download the app, I do get the following message.

                      "The requested URL was not found on this server"

                      Screenshot_20260213-135810.png

                      BMW R 1250 GS
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                      Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
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                      Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                      Sena SLR 3
                      Sena 50 R

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