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DMD-T665 as a Motorcycle Navigation Device – Long-Term Review

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  • Bart De Medtsundefined Bart De Medts

    Hey everyone,
    I recently wrote an in-depth review for MyRoute-app after ±10,000 km of intensive use of the DMD-T665 in combination with MyRoute-app Navigation Next, and I wanted to briefly share my experiences here and invite you to read the full blog post.

    🔗 Review (with photos & details): https://info.myrouteapp.com/dmd-t665-review-na-intensief-gebruik/

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    @Bart-De-Medts Great job Bart

    iPhone 15,
    Carpe Iter Tablet V4C
    Sena 20S EVO headset
    Harley Davidson Road King M8
    BMW 1200 GS Adventure

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    • AWDC LAOundefined AWDC LAO

      Ik kan geen kwaad woord zeggen over de Carpe Iter 4C, ze gaan allemaal wat dezelfde richting uit. 1nderzijdfs mijn iPhone 12 Pro Max doet het ook uitstekend !
      En dus de moeite waard om zo'n goed las nieuw herstelde iPhone aan te schaffen.

      Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Away
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      Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
      RouteXpert
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      @AWDC-LAO

      Heb je deze al gezien?
      https://bluerider.nl/products/carpe-iter-caretta-7-inch-android-navigatiesysteem-met-lin

      Carpe Iter Ci V4/ Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

        @Bart-De-Medts hi Bart
        Your update Made me thinking that it would time also for me to update my review Off the T865X the bigger brother of your T665

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        @Marinus-van-Deudekom Please do! Love mine! Even on the Harley!

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          #8

          I'm using the DMD T865-X which is bigger than the T665 - and I use it in the same way: MyRoute-App for onroad navigation and DMD2 app for offroad navigation.
          I can confirm @Bart-De-Medts excellent review. I do come to the same conclusion: devices and app (for offroad) of DMD are currently the reference.

          The devices are heavy, but this is because of big battery inside, which allows to drive the device the whole day without power cable connection.
          The reason for me to use the bigger T865-X is, the bigger screen, with bigger symbols - it's more comfortable.
          And really a game changer is the mounting cradle with cable harness, which is pre configured for use of remote controller! Operating a Nav device by a remote controller changes the game to next level!
          In summary there are so many advantages, so a AA/CP or similar is really not an option for me on a bike! May in a car it's another situation. But if I own a DMD - I can use it everywhere 😉

          edit: also DMD will launch next time a new 7" device.

          Nothing is impossible ;-)
          In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
          In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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          • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

            I'm using the DMD T865-X which is bigger than the T665 - and I use it in the same way: MyRoute-App for onroad navigation and DMD2 app for offroad navigation.
            I can confirm @Bart-De-Medts excellent review. I do come to the same conclusion: devices and app (for offroad) of DMD are currently the reference.

            The devices are heavy, but this is because of big battery inside, which allows to drive the device the whole day without power cable connection.
            The reason for me to use the bigger T865-X is, the bigger screen, with bigger symbols - it's more comfortable.
            And really a game changer is the mounting cradle with cable harness, which is pre configured for use of remote controller! Operating a Nav device by a remote controller changes the game to next level!
            In summary there are so many advantages, so a AA/CP or similar is really not an option for me on a bike! May in a car it's another situation. But if I own a DMD - I can use it everywhere 😉

            edit: also DMD will launch next time a new 7" device.

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            edit: also DMD will launch next time a new 7" device.

            @Guzzist I’ll install the new DMD 7” device as soon as it becomes available and review it afterwards.

            🏍️ Tiger: DMD-T665 + SilverFox controller
            🏍️ Bobber: iPhone 15 Pro + Quad Lock mount
            🚗 Car: iPhone 15 Pro with wireless Apple CarPlay

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              @Guzzist which controller do you use with MRA and DMD2?

              If you think everything is under control you are driving to slow!

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              • silberfuchs67undefined silberfuchs67

                @Guzzist which controller do you use with MRA and DMD2?

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                @silberfuchs67 said in DMD-T665 as a Motorcycle Navigation Device – Long-Term Review:

                @Guzzist which controller do you use with MRA and DMD2?

                I'm using Remote-2 controller, because:

                • it's small enough to place device between left handlebar and bikes switch element. So I'm able to operate by my thumb both, the remote controller and the switches like turn indicator comfortably.
                • I'm riding often offroad rallyes and navigate by "Rallye Road Book". The DMD device is able to operate that PDF files, and populated it on the screen. By the remote controller the descriptions in this files can be moved line by line over the screen. On such bumpy roads, it's difficult to hit the needed button on the controller correctly. The metallic 2-way switch for this at the Remote-2 controller, supports this in best way. Other controllers with knobs or 4-way mini joysticks are not suitable.
                • The Remote-2 controller can be connected be cable (pug&play) to the pre-configured cable harness with the DMD devices. Which makes it very easy and reliable. It can also be connected by Bluetooth; but I fear more issues with Bluetooth, because I have also connected my Headset to the DMD devices as well as my mobile phone. I was happy to could establish a reliable connection to Headset and mobile phone after long try and error phase. I don't need more risks.

                But the perfect situation is currently only for the DMD devices and running the DMD2 app! The MyRoute-App is still not supported by DMD Remote controller (and vice versa). Means: the 2-way switch - responsible for zoom in- and out in map, is not working in MyRoute-App. There you need to use the 4-way mini joystick for zooming - which is not secure enough during offroad riding.
                I'm in hope, this will be fixed by MyRoute-App developers soon. But overall the use of MyRoute-App on DMD devices is possible and works great.👍

                Nothing is impossible ;-)
                In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                  Thanks for your support and detailed feedback!

                  If you think everything is under control you are driving to slow!

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                  • AWDC LAOundefined AWDC LAO

                    Ik kan geen kwaad woord zeggen over de Carpe Iter 4C, ze gaan allemaal wat dezelfde richting uit. 1nderzijdfs mijn iPhone 12 Pro Max doet het ook uitstekend !
                    En dus de moeite waard om zo'n goed las nieuw herstelde iPhone aan te schaffen.

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                    @AWDC-LAO said in DMD-T665 as a Motorcycle Navigation Device – Long-Term Review:

                    iPhone 12 Pro Max is also working perfectly!

                    No issues in direct sunlight ?
                    Doesn't the brightness go down ?
                    Thanks !

                    Best regards,
                    Adrian

                    Samsung S24 Ultra and Motorola Thinkphone with Android Auto
                    MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                    Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                    • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                      @AWDC-LAO

                      Heb je deze al gezien?
                      https://bluerider.nl/products/carpe-iter-caretta-7-inch-android-navigatiesysteem-met-lin

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                      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR.MRA
                      Lijkt mij zeker de moeite waard, maar dan geraak ik mijn Carpe Iter V4c niet meer aan de straatstenen kwijt.

                      R1300GS Adv BlackPanther BMW, Apple MacPro 7.1, Carpe Iter V4c, ervaring met TTR550, ZumoXT2, Navigator VI, iPhone 12 MAX

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                      • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

                        @AWDC-LAO said in DMD-T665 as a Motorcycle Navigation Device – Long-Term Review:

                        iPhone 12 Pro Max is also working perfectly!

                        No issues in direct sunlight ?
                        Doesn't the brightness go down ?
                        Thanks !

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                        @Adrian-Avram No issues at all with mijn iPhone 12 mini of even with my iPhone Pro 12 Max.

                        R1300GS Adv BlackPanther BMW, Apple MacPro 7.1, Carpe Iter V4c, ervaring met TTR550, ZumoXT2, Navigator VI, iPhone 12 MAX

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                          I also started using a T665 with MRA. Does the Silverfox C1 works in both modes, wire-cable and bluetooth, with MRA?

                          Shiny!

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                          • ConiKostundefined ConiKost

                            I also started using a T665 with MRA. Does the Silverfox C1 works in both modes, wire-cable and bluetooth, with MRA?

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                            @ConiKost
                            I have the Silverfox C1 >>> according my information, the C1 only works with Bluetooth.

                            Check this post.... It was already an issue for other users.

                            https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/8990/silverfox-controller-c-1?page=4

                            BMW R 1250 GS
                            MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                            BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                            Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                            Pixel 9 "online"
                            SPC Universal mount
                            Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                            Sena SLR 3
                            Sena 50 R

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                            • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                              @ConiKost
                              I have the Silverfox C1 >>> according my information, the C1 only works with Bluetooth.

                              Check this post.... It was already an issue for other users.

                              https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/8990/silverfox-controller-c-1?page=4

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                              @Peter-Zehentreiter according to SilverFox it's best to use it with Bluetooth

                              Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                              Honda Silverwing GL 650
                              DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                              Garmin XT sold
                              Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                              • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                                @Peter-Zehentreiter according to SilverFox it's best to use it with Bluetooth

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                                @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in DMD-T665 as a Motorcycle Navigation Device – Long-Term Review:

                                according to SilverFox it's best to use it with Bluetooth

                                I know...I just answered @ConiKost

                                BMW R 1250 GS
                                MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                                Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                                Pixel 9 "online"
                                SPC Universal mount
                                Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                                Sena SLR 3
                                Sena 50 R

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                                  Thank you. Does this also apply to other controller variants (also non Silverfox). Based on https://unterstutzung.myrouteapp.com/de/support/solutions/articles/12000103174-bluetooth-controllers I would think, that every controller needs to be bluetooth, right?

                                  Shiny!

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                                  • ConiKostundefined ConiKost

                                    Thank you. Does this also apply to other controller variants (also non Silverfox). Based on https://unterstutzung.myrouteapp.com/de/support/solutions/articles/12000103174-bluetooth-controllers I would think, that every controller needs to be bluetooth, right?

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                                    @ConiKost I’m afraid I can’t say for certain about the other controllers available on the market.

                                    However, every Silverfox model is Bluetooth-compatible.

                                    If you’d prefer a different product, I’d recommend visiting the manufacturer’s website directly.

                                    As for Silverfox, I can only say that the quality is excellent and it works really well with MRA too.

                                    BMW R 1250 GS
                                    MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                    BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                                    Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                                    Pixel 9 "online"
                                    SPC Universal mount
                                    Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                                    Sena SLR 3
                                    Sena 50 R

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                                      Just asking, as I have not yet decided what to do. I am not against bluetooth, just wanted to know, if it's a must or not, when choosing a controller for me. Silverfox is nice. But my problem is more difficult, as I don't have any place to mount it on handlebar and currently thinking about other mounting methods. Silverfox C1 may be an option, but I have to see.

                                      Am I right, that for example Silverfox can be powered by T665 cable splitter, but connected via bluetooth, right? Does the splitter cable output 12V or 5V? Since its behind the converter box, I would expect 5V, but somehow Google tells me 12V?

                                      Shiny!

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                                      • ConiKostundefined ConiKost

                                        Just asking, as I have not yet decided what to do. I am not against bluetooth, just wanted to know, if it's a must or not, when choosing a controller for me. Silverfox is nice. But my problem is more difficult, as I don't have any place to mount it on handlebar and currently thinking about other mounting methods. Silverfox C1 may be an option, but I have to see.

                                        Am I right, that for example Silverfox can be powered by T665 cable splitter, but connected via bluetooth, right? Does the splitter cable output 12V or 5V? Since its behind the converter box, I would expect 5V, but somehow Google tells me 12V?

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                                        @ConiKost said in DMD-T665 as a Motorcycle Navigation Device – Long-Term Review:

                                        But my problem is more difficult, as I don't have any place to mount it on handlebar

                                        I don’t know what sort of motorbike you ride.
                                        On my GS, I had to move the left-hand mirror inwards just a little... but it fits quite well and I don’t need a special homemade mount.

                                        Concerning your question about connecting the T665 , I'm using the Silverfox in connection with a regular Smartphone, so I cannot answer this question.

                                        BMW R 1250 GS
                                        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                        BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                                        Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                                        Pixel 9 "online"
                                        SPC Universal mount
                                        Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                                        Sena SLR 3
                                        Sena 50 R

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                                          ...ned to add/update my last post: now the DMD Remote-2 controller is supported by MyRoute-App. So I'm totally happy 😳 😀 😎

                                          Nothing is impossible ;-)
                                          In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                                          In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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